My Letter to the 6G Celicas Community Options

[bigal004321]

I think alot of it has to do with the fact that alot of people here are young and immature. ANd that is what alot of young kids do is pick fights and prove that they are better than everyone else. And if i have i never intentionally offended anyone on this site. Very well said though Coomer.

Bigal

[GT4WRC]

Everyone needs to remember that we are basically Coomer's guests here. We have no automatic right to be a member of this Forum. Coomer does all the hard graft of keeping it running while we use it. If someone fails to abide by Coomer's rules, then they can't complain if they aren't allowed to join in.
I for one have also noticed a change in the short time I have been here. And what spoils it the most for me is the amount of references to illegal street racing. Okay, I'm in another country, but it still worries me that this type of stuff goes on. Okay, I'm not going to stop it, but while people tolerate it being posted about and contribute to the thread, then it is going to remain 'acceptable' to do. Give any moron an audience and they will perform.
Let's keep this as a proper forum where people can vcome to gain and share knowledge. Not as a place where people can hide behind a monitor and act like a 5 year old.
Gary

[Will_LT]

I've been coming to site this since mid january but i just signed up earlier this month. The reason why I decided to actually sign up was because I've learned quite a bit from it and the atmosphere has been so warm and friendly. I'm proud to be a Celica owner and even moreso of being part of this community.

[trdproven]

This letter really makes a lot of sense, especially for me a new comer when I joined mid last year. I believe people have different preferences and styles but most of all people come here to socialize but most importantly, help each other like a family. well said, Coomer!

[jgreening]

I didnt read all the replies but, i can understand the respect everyone thing but it will never happen. i really wish that people wouldn't be so up tight and oh man i got my feelings hurt on the interent. come on its a public forum. if someone says something you dont like then move on and live your life dont get all upset about it. to sum up DONT BE WHINNY LITTLE BABIES WHEN YOU GET AN ANSWER OR COMMENT YOU DONT LIKE!
-Aaron-

Preach it brother! Can I have a "AMEN!"?

[lagos]

I didnt read all the replies but, i can understand the respect everyone thing but it will never happen. i really wish that people wouldn't be so up tight and oh man i got my feelings hurt on the interent. come on its a public forum. if someone says something you dont like then move on and live your life dont get all upset about it. to sum up DONT BE WHINNY LITTLE BABIES WHEN YOU GET AN ANSWER OR COMMENT YOU DONT LIKE!
-Aaron-

Preach it brother! Can I have a "AMEN!"?

AMEN


even with this sites "problems", its still probably the nices, most helpfull car forum on the internet, with a great sense of comunity.

[easternpiro1]

i thought i was the only one that was noticing the snobby elite group....well said coomer well said

[K-ESD]

I think alot of it has to do with the fact that alot of people here are young and immature. ANd that is what alot of young kids do is pick fights and prove that they are better than everyone else. And if i have i never intentionally offended anyone on this site. Very well said though Coomer.

Bigal

BULLSEYE !!!!

seriously ! you may accidently offend someone, thats unavoidable but you can always come back and appologize and prove your point in a respectful way.

The "snobby elite" know who they are, i'm glad coomer brought this up.

Thanks a million for everything coomer !!

[jgreening]

snobby elite?

I would like to know who these people are because I have no idea who you are referring to. Please list user names and feel free to use mine if thats who you are referring to. I really want to know what you base this characterization on. Perhaps you are referring to people who have knowledge and take the time to help people.

Maybe you think some are "snobby" simply because they know the answer to a question and have the audacity to type it out and help someone because you assume that they are just trying to show off their knowledge. That is rediculous but I have no idea how else someone could conclude from an internet posting that the author is snobby. I certainly don't see many posts like "my car can smoke yours" (with the exception of me and Jeff joking around to try to drum up interest for the National meet).

As for the "elite" part, I am sure that could be remedied by encouraging people who have knowledge and who are willing to share it rather than critisizing them because someone has their feelings hurt when they are given an opinion that is not exactly what they want to hear.

[Kwanza26]

As for the "elite" part, I am sure that could be remedied by encouraging people who have knowledge and who are willing to share it rather than critisizing them because someone has their feelings hurt when they are given an opinion that is not exactly what they want to hear.

hence why I rarely answer anything anymore...

For me at least... answers come depending on how you asked the question. People who really need to know, or want to know... will ask the proper questions in a proper manner. If you post stuff that pisses me off, chances are I'll chime in and knock heads a bit. I suppose you could call it elite"ist"... but that's really just me... and it's not limited to newbies or anything... I'm sure a lot of the oldies have gone at it with me at one point or another. I personally think some people need this more-so than the mere slap on the wrist... but hell... generally I'm pretty nice. All of the people who have ever PM'ed me directly about something have always gotten detailed responses. When it comes down to it... I really do think being "nice" is a luxury people sometimes take advantage of. If you genuinely need help, ask politely and you'll get your answers sooner or later.

I'll pretty much always float around...

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Mar 20, 2006 - 6:10 PM

[Coomer]

OK,
I posted this letter because I didn't want arguments to start.

There are some members who, in the past, have acted if they're better than others. They've conveyed attitudes that are inappropriate and consistently have talked down to others for not knowing much or for having different tastes. Lately though, I haven't seen much of this, and that's a good thing.

So let's leave this alone. No calling people out, no seperating people into groups. Everyone is equal here and that's that. I don't want to hear any more posting about who's elite and who's not.

[afroman]

edited due to coomers post
-Aaron-

This post has been edited by afroman: Mar 20, 2006 - 6:06 PM

[lagos]

all i have to say is WOW... the THOUGHT POLICE is here!

i just posed something saying " id like to know who these people are" and it just got deleted by coomer. ... nice. thanks

[jgreening]

My apologies. A Statement critisizing people that routinely help out others is like kryptonite to me.

Where would this site be without the Lagos, Presure2s, Defgephs, Dr Tweaks, DG Performances, celica3sgtes, Batman722s, etc., etc., of the world?

This post has been edited by jgreening: Mar 20, 2006 - 6:15 PM

[Coomer]

all i have to say is WOW... the THOUGHT POLICE is here!

i just posed something saying " id like to know who these people are" and it just got deleted by coomer. ... nice. thanks

Did you not read my post? I said that I won't have people calling other people out.

[lagos]

all i have to say is WOW... the THOUGHT POLICE is here!

i just posed something saying " id like to know who these people are" and it just got deleted by coomer. ... nice. thanks

Did you not read my post? I said that I won't have people calling other people out.

im sorry... but there is something wrong if im not allowed to post my thought or opinion.

i understand that this site has rules, but that comment definetly didnt break any of them. i should be allowed to speak my mind.

[Coomer]

This is a moderated website. Management moderates the posts of everyone else and we do what we feel is beneficial to the site. Just because there isn't a clear-cut posted rule about something doesn't mean that we can't do anything.

Like I said, I don't want people calling others out and I don't want to hear any more posting about who's elite and who's not.

You read my post and went directly against it, so I removed it.

[celicarus]

My apologies. A Statement critisizing people that routinely help out others is like kryptonite to me.

Where would this site be without the Lagos, Presure2s, Defgephs, Dr Tweaks, DG Performances, celica3sgtes, Batman722s, etc., etc., of the world?

i agree - these people have been a great asset to this site - and I respect every single one of them because of their knowledge with 6gc's --

i'm a 6gc addict like many others on here and love reading post and comments made by others - this site has been friendly that's why i visit here more often than other celica sites .

[K-ESD]

this is an example of what i've been told once

Not to bitter, jadded or Cold, but seriously....Go shoot yourself

i am guilty of responding very agressively to that. I was simply f- sick of being disrespected, i never picked a fight with anyone, never !
but i would've fought to the end when war is brought upon me.

the people that this concerns know who they are, no need to point fingers at anyone as this would agrevate the situation. Coomer is asking everyone to please clean up their act and to treat everyone equal. It's very little to ask in return for everything he did for us.

As a junior of this site, i am willing to do my very best to contribute to this.
This includes not saying my oppinion if i know it will piss someone off and appologizing to anyone that i may have offended unwillingly.

It's not hard to be polite

-Peace

[Supersprynt]

What if someone says "hey what do you guys think of: so and so..."? Personally I like to give a thumbs up maybe or thumbs down because I'm simple and honest, is this going to be a problem?

I think Coomer is refering to pointless gifs or posts. A or is fine.

Or you could post something like

Awesome

If you dont like something just dont reply to the thread. Thats the best response to something you dont like, just ignore it.

Don't mean to be rude, but this is right up your alley Supersprynt.

I Agree wholly with this entire post! Thanks for letting it all out Croomer.

Tina's 100% correct with this. You say you dont mean to be rude, but clearly YOUR the problem because you take shots like that. I dont. I also disagree with you Jeff. If someone says "what do you think about this?" Is this a forum where public opinion is not welcome? I'm an honest person, I'm also a nice guy - u've met me in person, I have no problem giving a thumbs down or saying no man, I dont like that, but props on your work etc. etc. It certainly doesnt need to be made in a rude manner, however if this place is just going to be happy-happy without any honest opinions, its just going to be a glazed over forum that you cant get any real answers on. Alot of times I certainly will not post on something because I dont like it, in fact I'd say 8/10 times I dont simply because of that reason. Nothing nice to say, then dont say it. But I cant help but be reminded of the movie Equilibrium. Where everyone goes around emotionless.

Maybe some changes do need to be made here, but as a whole this is probably the single most clean, and nicest car forum on the internet even with what all you guys are talking about. But to say NO negative comments is unrealistic.

I dont know if I'm "elite" I am sure alot of ppl have a problem with me simply because I'm direct and honest with them and they want it sugar coated. Somone with LED's in their exhaust and an electric turbo should be flamed here because its going to be done in the real world at least here its just the internet. Random people I have never talked to have IMed me asking me questions, hell alot of them not even from this forum. And I will go look up the answers to questions if I dont know the answer and I will spend time with them to help them out as long as they dont piss me off.

PS: Everyone cannot be appeased. Someone will always be complaining.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Mar 21, 2006 - 7:59 AM