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May 10, 2006 - 11:04 AM
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So whats the deal with the tubular exhaust manifolds and 3" down pipe for the 3sgte on ebay. Are they any good? do they crack? do any of u 6gc members have them?
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May 10, 2006 - 11:07 AM
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i have both, downpipe seems alright durability as long as you reinforce the welds, i guess same thing with the tubular manifold, but id stick with the stock log style manifold, any power given by the tubular manifold will just be top end, and the log manifold will make it on the bottom end, plus with the log manifold you can use stock heatshield which makes your engine bay look better.
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May 10, 2006 - 11:22 AM
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Keep the stock exhaust manifold. If you want a 3 inch downpipe, get an aussie.
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May 10, 2006 - 12:17 PM
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the stock 3s manifold has been proven to be good for over 400whp.
the ebay ones are well known over on mr2oc for cracking pretty quickly. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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May 10, 2006 - 4:22 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 4, '04 From Northern New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
yah listen to what the others are saying...the ebay manifolds are pretty much crap and will crack from what i also have heard. the ssautochrome downpipes tho are pretty nice. i didnt reinforce weld mine and its still kickin'. almost 1 year now. u just gutta make sure to put a flexipipe after it. alltrac.net guys also agree that the ssautochrome downpipes are pretty good for the money.
bboy -------------------- ![]() ..(formerly daily driven) 3S-GTE powered celica currently set @ 12psi.. |
May 10, 2006 - 6:44 PM
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![]() Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Apr 17, '03 From Rockland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
QUOTE(BBoYRuGGeD @ May 10, 2006 - 5:22 PM) [snapback]432533[/snapback] yah listen to what the others are saying...the ebay manifolds are pretty much crap and will crack from what i also have heard. the ssautochrome downpipes tho are pretty nice. i didnt reinforce weld mine and its still kickin'. almost 1 year now. u just gutta make sure to put a flexipipe after it. alltrac.net guys also agree that the ssautochrome downpipes are pretty good for the money. bboy I'll bet you 20 bucks your DP has a crack. Stay away from SS. Buy an Aussie pipe. -------------------- ![]() I will return one day. |
May 10, 2006 - 7:16 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
i have the berk one. very similar to the ebay ones. havent had any problems with it at all
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May 10, 2006 - 7:55 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 4, '04 From Northern New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(defgeph @ May 10, 2006 - 11:44 PM) [snapback]432602[/snapback] I'll bet you 20 bucks your DP has a crack. ill take that bet bboy -------------------- ![]() ..(formerly daily driven) 3S-GTE powered celica currently set @ 12psi.. |
May 10, 2006 - 8:20 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
also make sure your running a downpipe brace..otherwise your in for cracking no matter wat
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May 10, 2006 - 9:37 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
one thing i noticed. it seems the ebay ssauto ones turn a very dark purple color once they have been used for a while. the berk ones on the other hand turn a golden color. anyone else notice that? -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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May 10, 2006 - 9:38 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
QUOTE(lagos @ May 10, 2006 - 10:37 PM) [snapback]432680[/snapback] one thing i noticed. it seems the ebay ssauto ones turn a very dark purple color once they have been used for a while. the berk ones on the other hand turn a golden color. anyone else notice that? from the heat obviously i think the different colors come from different levels of steel quality though |
May 10, 2006 - 11:08 PM
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The berk pipe is stainless steel. The SSauto Is stainless plated. Difference in color is from the stainless coating wearing away.
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May 10, 2006 - 11:22 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE(defgeph @ May 11, 2006 - 12:08 AM) [snapback]432707[/snapback] The berk pipe is stainless steel. The SSauto Is stainless plated. Difference in color is from the stainless coating wearing away. hmm didnt know that. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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May 10, 2006 - 11:30 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jul 16, '04 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
any one try the KOracing DP its 2.5 which would actually do my exhaust better.
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May 13, 2006 - 10:33 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 1, '03 From Hong Kong Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
do you guys know all those manifolds and DP from Ebay are "Made in China". If you looking for a "Good" quality manifold from Japan...it cost you almost $1000.....
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May 13, 2006 - 11:06 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 21, '05 From New york Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Ok Everyone has been talking about manifolds lately..check out these manifolds . He can make them to be shaped like anything...If there is enough interest...i can have him make a mock up on my 3sgte...and have him make quite a few of them..so the price can come down....but anyway he is really good at making these...everything is TIG welded, and reiforced mig welded..also made out of heavy duty stainless steel!
Bigal LMK if there is any interest and i can talk to the guy and see if he is not too busy to make them.... My personal favorite is his ram horn style manifold! -------------------- 1994 celica GT.....3sgte in a month! all helpers are welcome!!! i live in Plattsburgh, NY.
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May 13, 2006 - 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(bigal004321 @ May 13, 2006 - 11:06 AM) [snapback]433550[/snapback] Ok Everyone has been talking about manifolds lately..check out these manifolds . He can make them to be shaped like anything...If there is enough interest...i can have him make a mock up on my 3sgte...and have him make quite a few of them..so the price can come down....but anyway he is really good at making these...everything is TIG welded, and reiforced mig welded..also made out of heavy duty stainless steel! Bigal LMK if there is any interest and i can talk to the guy and see if he is not too busy to make them.... My personal favorite is his ram horn style manifold! If he can do one that will outperform stocker log mani, and the gain will be worth the money, i bet you can get ALOT of people mr2, alltrack and gt4 boards to throw down on a group buy. You (or someone) should contact that guy and see what's up -------------------- QUOTE(tufy @ Jul 19, 2006 - 7:40 AM) [snapback]458074[/snapback] i dont drive fast, i just fly low |
May 13, 2006 - 9:31 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 21, '05 From New york Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
These Manifolds will definately gain HP...because he makes sure that every pipe is teh same length unlike the stock log style manifold...but i jsut want to gauge interest before i tell the guy to start mocking one up..to make sure it is worth his time...
bigal So everyone that is interested in one let me know via PM or responding to this post! -------------------- 1994 celica GT.....3sgte in a month! all helpers are welcome!!! i live in Plattsburgh, NY.
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May 14, 2006 - 10:42 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
same length doesn't always equal more hp...same length is more important on an NA car then it is on a F/I car.....plus just saying "these will defenitly gain hp" without even having a dumby manifold or a flow chart, or a dyno....proves useless
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May 14, 2006 - 8:33 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 21, '05 From New york Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
well these manifolds are also a lot less restrictive then the stock manifolds, therefore making them more efficient..
Bigal -------------------- 1994 celica GT.....3sgte in a month! all helpers are welcome!!! i live in Plattsburgh, NY.
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