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post Jun 25, 2006 - 3:27 PM
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ok so i'm planning on doing a 3sgte swap in about a year. right now i'm doing all kinds of research on it reading threads, stickies, looking for places that sell clips. but here's the problem it's getting overwhelming. i've been reading threads and stickies all weekend and the more i read the less sure of myself i get. so what i would like to ask is that yall who have more experience or have done this swap please if you could recommend what threads i should start off with. i think first off i should read what i would need as far as parts go (in generic parts). um...yeah and stuff of that nature. basically i am yours to mold i just want to know what to read and in what order. any help you have would be great. i can't continue to just go from the last thread and read all the 3sgte threads all the abbreviations are hard to keep up with and the formulas and cr@p. thanks in advance.

 
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post Jun 25, 2006 - 4:00 PM
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how far away are you from pittsburgh I can show you how I did it on my car if you ever want to come up. theres alot of sticky threads here... theres some on celicatech.com too. Just do as much research as you can... yes it gets overwelming at times.... are you going to swap it youtself or is someone going to do it for you?


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post Jun 25, 2006 - 10:38 PM
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i plan to have someone else do the swap for me. the way i see it is i could probably do it myself but then if something goes wrong and the engine gets messed up i'm out more money tryin to fix what i messed up. if someone else does it and messes up the engine THEY'RE out the money fixing their mess up.
post Jun 25, 2006 - 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(celicak @ Jun 25, 2006 - 11:38 PM) [snapback]448858[/snapback]

i plan to have someone else do the swap for me. the way i see it is i could probably do it myself but then if something goes wrong and the engine gets messed up i'm out more money tryin to fix what i messed up. if someone else does it and messes up the engine THEY'RE out the money fixing their mess up.



thats the first lesson you need to learn. if something breaks, its coming out of your pocket, regardless of who is doing the work. i dont know anyone that will swap in a used jdm motor for you and then pay to replace it when they find out you bought a blown motor or something.

do your own swap. there are alwasy bugs to work out and things to keep an eye on. if you do your own work, youll know how to deal with that stuff, and youll save a lot of money.


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post Jun 26, 2006 - 12:18 AM
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^^ Save a ton of money ...... it wont be nice when something breaks frown.gif. I work partime at a shop here in Pittsbrgh. we have done a few 3s swaps on mr2s/celicas....


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post Jun 26, 2006 - 12:59 AM
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First off if your doing the swap yourself I say take out the Wiring diagrams and stare at it for the next month, because you will need to understand what it means. Then after that its as simple as finding a clip to save time, vaccum diagrams, a nice place to work on your car and lots of $$.
post Jun 26, 2006 - 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Jun 25, 2006 - 11:02 PM) [snapback]448861[/snapback]

QUOTE(celicak @ Jun 25, 2006 - 11:38 PM) [snapback]448858[/snapback]

i plan to have someone else do the swap for me. the way i see it is i could probably do it myself but then if something goes wrong and the engine gets messed up i'm out more money tryin to fix what i messed up. if someone else does it and messes up the engine THEY'RE out the money fixing their mess up.



thats the first lesson you need to learn. if something breaks, its coming out of your pocket, regardless of who is doing the work. i dont know anyone that will swap in a used jdm motor for you and then pay to replace it when they find out you bought a blown motor or something.

do your own swap. there are alwasy bugs to work out and things to keep an eye on. if you do your own work, youll know how to deal with that stuff, and youll save a lot of money.


really? i just don't know if i trust myself to do the swap. i mean i know a little bit about cars but i don't think i know enough to do an engine swap by myself. are there any books that would help during the process if i did decide to do it myself?
post Jun 26, 2006 - 11:48 PM
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u can do ur own swap, but i strongly recomend getting someone professional doing the wiring.

ie, dg_performance or dr tweak


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post Jun 27, 2006 - 7:48 AM
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if you choose not to do it yourself theres a ton of help in the area... but you really should be planning on doing it yourself and sending out the harness. all that hands on time is invaluable. not to mention how good it feels when the car is running!
post Jun 28, 2006 - 3:58 PM
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yeah i've been thinking about it and i agree i think when i get ready to do it i'll just take my time and figure it out. i am however going to send out the wireing harness cause i don't even want to deal with that headache.
post Jun 28, 2006 - 4:14 PM
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Have someone with knowledge about the swap clseo to you..

When I do a swap in my Celica.. my brothers just going to watch, eat and drink.. lol

Just remember to label everything, put the bolts in plastic baggies so you wont lose em. If you get frustrated take a break!. I had to.. I was putting back a 4AC and the parts wont seem to match.. I was about to hammer it to make it match..
post Jun 28, 2006 - 6:23 PM
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Make sure you have a secondary form of transportation during the swap... Things like this will always take longer than you think, and you probably still have to get to work in the morning!

If you have faith in yourself that you could remove and re-install a motor, you can probably do the swap yourself if you have somebody else do the harness. Helping hands are always a good idea though.

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post Jun 29, 2006 - 5:23 PM
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oh yeah i paln on taking several months. i'm still aways away though so it's all good. the more i read the less worried i'm getting about doing it myself. i'm sure when the time comes i'll be on here ALOT asking all kinds of questions.

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