Gt-Four vs. CBR 600RR, enjoy the video.... Options

[neoklis]

Having seen Tufy's car on the Dyno last month, I can vouch that the car is sick. The car has an immence amount of power. Everybody seems to forget that we are talking about a 4wd car with probably one of the best 4wd transmission ever built (TORSEN from TORque SENsor)

Also we are taking about a CBR600 which is not the fastest out there but on general quite fast. Bikes may have a killer acceleration but having all the power in just one tyre makes impossible to compare launch of a bike with a 4wd car.

Hey Tufy I believe you should start thinking about an upgraded suspension and you should look after your transmission as I learn you drag race almost daily.

[dustin15brown]

Even if the Supra did know how to drive, its just too much power. If he had less hp it would have been more of a race lol.

Keep us updated with the m3, that would be interesting.

how do you figure that? If it's properly tuned and so forth and he obviously knows what he is doing... i dont see him losing to many if any lower hp supras.... Good job tufy

[tufy]

Having seen Tufy's car on the Dyno last month, I can vouch that the car is sick. The car has an immence amount of power. Everybody seems to forget that we are talking about a 4wd car with probably one of the best 4wd transmission ever built (TORSEN from TORque SENsor)

Also we are taking about a CBR600 which is not the fastest out there but on general quite fast. Bikes may have a killer acceleration but having all the power in just one tyre makes impossible to compare launch of a bike with a 4wd car.

Hey Tufy I believe you should start thinking about an upgraded suspension and you should look after your transmission as I learn you drag race almost daily.

neoklis....
Don't worry man... i dont drive fast, i just fly low
i already have after market suspentions. for now transmission seems ok. i dont know whats going to be with higher boost. i have some future plans for gearbox. but its not the next step. next is brakes to stop this monster....
p.s. flying was just a joke i drive slowly and i dont push my car so much. i drag race 1-2 times a month only

This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 19, 2006 - 7:46 AM

[Jeremy1210]

Nice job on toasting that bike. You're car is amazing

I am going to have to agree with DG on this one about the rider not knowing **** about racing on that bike. He either doesn't know how to ride or he was just following you, cause a bike is pretty freaking quick and it should beat you off the line b/c of the weight that it has compared to yours, just like how Fwd or RWD beat AWD of the line b/c of that grip issue or whatever its called.

I'm not doubitn that your car is amazing and everything i'd like in a celica, but to beat a bike needs a person who knows how to ride a bike for it to be really impressive win.

Manufacturer Model Hp Torque Quarter Mile Wet Weight

Honda CBR600F4i ('01) 95.5 @ 12,500 42.6 @ 10,250 10.71

Honda CBR600RR ('03) 105.4 @ 13,500 43.7 @ 11,250 10.94

Unless your car can do this, it was bike rider error.

[tufy]

Nice job on toasting that bike. You're car is amazing

I am going to have to agree with DG on this one about the rider not knowing **** about racing on that bike. He either doesn't know how to ride or he was just following you, cause a bike is pretty freaking quick and it should beat you off the line b/c of the weight that it has compared to yours, just like how Fwd or RWD beat AWD of the line b/c of that grip issue or whatever its called.

I'm not doubitn that your car is amazing and everything i'd like in a celica, but to beat a bike needs a person who knows how to ride a bike for it to be really impressive win.

Manufacturer Model Hp Torque Quarter Mile Wet Weight

Honda CBR600F4i ('01) 95.5 @ 12,500 42.6 @ 10,250 10.71

Honda CBR600RR ('03) 105.4 @ 13,500 43.7 @ 11,250 10.94

Unless your car can do this, it was bike rider error.

here is some times that i take from www. dragtimes.com
time------speed

10.942---125.190--Honda CBR 600rr 2003 Dustin
11.339---126.540--honda CBR 600RR 2003 bryan
11.440---120.200--Honda CBR 600rr 2003 Nick

i think cbr 600rr is not that fast.. my car should be arround 11 sec.. that is so close to cbr 600.
not to be even closer to me should be cbr drivers fault. but its not his fault that he coulnt pass me..

edit: i am sorry if dustin, bryan and nick doesnt know how to drive too..

This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 19, 2006 - 9:23 AM

[CilverSeliST205]

I am going to have to agree with DG on this one about the rider not knowing **** about racing on that bike. He either doesn't know how to ride or he was just following you, cause a bike is pretty freaking quick and it should beat you off the line b/c of the weight that it has compared to yours, just like how Fwd or RWD beat AWD of the line b/c of that grip issue or whatever its called.

You got that mixed up... only time 2wd has advantage on 4wd is on a roll and definitely not off the line

i dont drive fast, i just fly low

Tuffy your car is amazing and this quote goes into my signature

Just out of curiosity, IF YOU HAD TO how much would you sell your car for ?

[DG_Performance]

DG_Performance I read your post. http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=39330&st=20
I would like to say that the biker was not smooth or very experienced, but the Celica had too much power for that CBR600. I like bikes it’s just that that bike and that car combination even with a seasoned veteran cyclist would have not produced a win for the CBR in my opinion. I not trying to give you a hard time. I just wanted to respond to your thoughts.

Again, I respect your opinion. I don’t agree. [/u]

Best Regards
Yellow94GT
[/quote]

I also respect your opinion and will continue to stick with my own.
I have owned 4 streetbikes and know for a fact... that car should not have beat that bike..... (especially that bad)! Even tuffy says a few post later the 600's are running high tens and he should be close to low elevens which means he is saying he is close to being as fast as those 600 bike times but he dont think he is hitting those times yet. So when he goes to the track and runs a better time than the bike times you can pm me and tell me i was wrong.
I hope i am proved wrong .... but i highly highly doubt that will happen!!

[richgt4]

The point of the fact is that the bike rider was sure he'd win as he stated to Tufy that he's beaten Ferraris before.


Bike rider thought he'd win hands down & he got beat fair & square!!!!

Well done Tufy. All bike riders are gay anyway with a fetish for wearing tight leather clothes

A lot of drag racing is driver skill. There is a member on the OC in England that can run low 12's in his GT4 & it's almost stock.

It's all in the technique. Thats what I tell the girls anyway

Rich

This post has been edited by richgt4: Jul 21, 2006 - 4:35 PM

[Wolf_tm]

A car that stock runs 400m @ 14.1 seconds, cannot run in 12 low only for the driver's ability.

[tufy]

A car that stock runs 400m @ 14.1 seconds, cannot run in 12 low only for the driver's ability.

he said almost stock. may be he meant ''not heavily modified''..
i now a 342 bhp gt four( owned by alex knight) st 205 that is running 1/4 mile @12.55 sec . its very easy to buld a 342 bhp st205.
p.s:
i passed a few cbr 400's with my slightly modifed gt four when i first have my car.

This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 22, 2006 - 5:03 AM

[Kadett]

A car that stock runs 400m @ 14.1 seconds, cannot run in 12 low only for the driver's ability.

he said almost stock. may be he meant ''not heavily modified''..
i now a 342 bhp gt four( owned by alex knight) st 205 that is running 1/4 mile @12.55 sec . its very easy to buld a 342 bhp st205.
p.s:
i passed a few cbr 400's with my slightly modifed gt four when i first have my car.

Those numbers say alot to me. Is the GT4 of alex a Red WRC? Did he make the website www.st205.net If so a Dutch member has bought his car a few months ago!

[tufy]

nope.. this is a black gt four. i just checked his profile. he has serius modifications.. i cant say slightly modified. but its still 350 bhp. i dont know why. (magic has 320 bhp with stock turbo and stock internals)
here is link to his car
http://www.gt4oc.net/owners/owners_page.php?owner=62

This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 22, 2006 - 6:22 AM

[Wolf_tm]

A car that stock runs 400m @ 14.1 seconds, cannot run in 12 low only for the driver's ability.

he said almost stock. may be he meant ''not heavily modified''..
i now a 342 bhp gt four( owned by alex knight) st 205 that is running 1/4 mile @12.55 sec . its very easy to buld a 342 bhp st205.

Ah ok,
it's only on what we mean:

for me "almost stock" is an ebc/dp/full exhaust for about 280/290 REAL fw hp.

PS: i am talking about REAL hp because I read that in USA born a new unit of measurement...... the DYNOJET's HP !!!
And the same MR.Dinojet had to admit, on 3 american magazines, that their dynos give power numbers 20% more than real.

Please ALWAYS specify if we are talking about HP or DJ HP...

++++

www.st205.net was made by a great friend of mine, a really special person I met in October 2005 at the Ring.... Dan Johnson !



Bye.

[Kadett]

Well then it is Dan Jonhson who sold his car to someone here in the Netherlands.

[richgt4]

Well then it is Dan Jonhson who sold his car to someone here in the Netherlands.

He sold his car to Ibz & then Ibz sold his car to the fella in Holland

Rich

[richgt4]

Here you go. This is the midly tuned Celica I was talking about:

http://www.tengoku-racing.com/phpBB2/viewt...der=asc&start=0

Runs constant mid 12's

There is a thread on the OC forum, but I don't know how to post up the link lol

Rich

This post has been edited by richgt4: Jul 22, 2006 - 11:12 AM

[tufy]

Ah ok,
it's only on what we mean:

for me "almost stock" is an ebc/dp/full exhaust for about 280/290 REAL fw hp.

PS: i am talking about REAL hp because I read that in USA born a new unit of measurement...... the DYNOJET's HP !!!
And the same MR.Dinojet had to admit, on 3 american magazines, that their dynos give power numbers 20% more than real.

Please ALWAYS specify if we are talking about HP or DJ HP...

magic has 255 awhp and 320 engine power. Alex's 350 bhp st 205 probaply has less then 290 whp which you can also call it slightly modifed.
when we take our cars to a rolling dyno we like to talk about whp's because engine power is calculated and may not be accurate..
btw although st205.net is not updated for years, but still it is a great site. have great infos....

This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 22, 2006 - 11:39 AM

[richgt4]

The thread on the GT4OC forum is in the 'Off topic discussion' section & the title is 'anyone smell a great launch'

Non members can access this section too

Enjoy the read

Rich

[Chanh55]

Wow. Very nice tufy, I wanna see you hit up some Ferraris now... haha. I'm not sure if anyone else rehosted the file yet, but I put it on youtube a lot easier to view. I just uploaded it so it may take a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKTAxehcuhE

[Wolf_tm]

Ah ok,
it's only on what we mean:

for me "almost stock" is an ebc/dp/full exhaust for about 280/290 REAL fw hp.

PS: i am talking about REAL hp because I read that in USA born a new unit of measurement...... the DYNOJET's HP !!!
And the same MR.Dinojet had to admit, on 3 american magazines, that their dynos give power numbers 20% more than real.

Please ALWAYS specify if we are talking about HP or DJ HP...

magic has 255 awhp and 320 engine power. Alex's 350 bhp st 205 probaply has less then 290 whp which you can also call it slightly modifed.
when we take our cars to a rolling dyno we like to talk about whp's because engine power is calculated and may not be accurate..
btw although st205.net is not updated for years, but still it is a great site. have great infos....

Sorry,

I need to explain better then...

Dinojet's WHEEL HP are 20% more than real.


Just reporting from an EVO forum:

" We all just need to be clear that Dynojet numbers ARE NOT ACTUAL WHP NUMBERS. If anything the numbers a Dynojet spits out are more closely related to flywheel numbers.

Before anyone opens their mouth to argue the point, the inventor, designer, originator of the Dynojet openly stated this a few months back in 3 major automotive magazines. I actually quoted what he had to say here.
__________________
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com "