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post Dec 2, 2006 - 9:05 AM
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What do you mean "convert to 5x114.3"? Is that a standard measurement on the hub for U.S. models? Could it be why the rotors that i ordered for the U.S. celica do not fit the JDM model because of the placements of the studs?




The celica comes with a 5x100 lug pattern. I bought wheels on ebay that i thought, and the seller thought were 5x100 but were actually 5x114.3 so i had to get the adaptors made in order for the wheels to fit my car.


how much did that run you?
post Dec 2, 2006 - 7:08 PM
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OK, test was done: 5 mm is not enough, 10 mm is just fine but I can't even reach studs with lug then.
Ergo - I have to go with 10 mm spacers and longer studs, no other option.

I know you recommend H&R but they are extremely expensive here (150$ for pair of spacers without studs).
Anyone had experience with Ichiba USA?


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post Dec 3, 2006 - 12:16 PM
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What do you mean "convert to 5x114.3"? Is that a standard measurement on the hub for U.S. models? Could it be why the rotors that i ordered for the U.S. celica do not fit the JDM model because of the placements of the studs?




The celica comes with a 5x100 lug pattern. I bought wheels on ebay that i thought, and the seller thought were 5x100 but were actually 5x114.3 so i had to get the adaptors made in order for the wheels to fit my car.


A similar thing happend to me with brake discs, but the other way around. the lug pattern on my celica was 5x114.3 and i ordered discs from the U.S. with a pattern on 5x100. BTW, how do you measure the lug patterns?


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post Dec 3, 2006 - 1:15 PM
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H&R DRS series come with the appropiate longer studs. Quality of the product is excellent. Using them for 7 months now with no problems.

@Slick

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post Dec 3, 2006 - 1:30 PM
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Can u guys really trust your life to a aluminium spacer with studs on them? Its like bolting two rims on.
post Dec 3, 2006 - 1:32 PM
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QUOTE(Kadett @ Dec 3, 2006 - 8:15 PM) [snapback]507406[/snapback]

H&R DRS series come with the appropiate longer studs. Quality of the product is excellent. Using them for 7 months now with no problems.

@Slick

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Thanks Kadett!


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Can u guys really trust your life to a aluminium spacer with studs on them? Its like bolting two rims on.


Now why did you have to go there? tongue.gif


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post Dec 3, 2006 - 2:18 PM
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Looks like either I:
- go with 15 mm spacers by brand producer (H&R, Ichiba, Ultralite) with longer studs and hubcentric rings (need to go from 54.1 to 73.1)
- address one of local companies producing spacers to provide me with 10 mm spacers with integrated centering adaption and buy quality longer studs

There is no easy way, but most probably I will go the first one.


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post Dec 3, 2006 - 10:10 PM
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if the cost is so great there what is the price difference here in the US?
if its a vast savings (including the shipping) i'm sure we can work something out to help you smile.gif
post Dec 4, 2006 - 6:23 AM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Dec 3, 2006 - 10:10 PM) [snapback]507524[/snapback]

if the cost is so great there what is the price difference here in the US?
if its a vast savings (including the shipping) i'm sure we can work something out to help you smile.gif

Thanks for the offer but seems that I can handle it myself - price per pair of Ichiba / H&R with studs in US is ~100$ plus shipping, Ultralite in UK is in the same range. From US I can have it just brought to me after being shipped to my cousin in Chicago (my father visits you once a month), shipping from UK should not be too expensive.


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post Dec 4, 2006 - 11:14 AM
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Got my H&R kits for 70 euro's per axle


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post Dec 6, 2006 - 3:50 AM
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The celica comes with a 5x100 lug pattern. I bought wheels on ebay that i thought, and the seller thought were 5x100 but were actually 5x114.3 so i had to get the adaptors made in order for the wheels to fit my car.


how much did that run you? It ran me around 300
QUOTE(soulshadow @ Dec 3, 2006 - 10:30 AM) [snapback]507414[/snapback]
Can u guys really trust your life to a aluminium spacer with studs on them? Its like bolting two rims on.




your not really running two rims. your basicaly just making the offset of your wheel smaller. ll take some picks and show you what i mean



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QUOTE(TomPoz @ Dec 3, 2006 - 12:18 PM) [snapback]507427[/snapback]

Looks like either I:
- go with 15 mm spacers by brand producer (H&R, Ichiba, Ultralite) with longer studs and hubcentric rings (need to go from 54.1 to 73.1)
- address one of local companies producing spacers to provide me with 10 mm spacers with integrated centering adaption and buy quality longer studs

There is no easy way, but most probably I will go the first one.



What are hubcentric rings? Is it necessary to use them when you use spacers?
post Dec 6, 2006 - 3:34 PM
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Hubcentric rings are plastic rings that are fitted to match the difference between your hub on your wheel and internal diameter of the rim. This to make sure that the wheel is perfectly centered on the hub when you bolt them onto the car.


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post Dec 6, 2006 - 3:41 PM
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Looks like either I:
- go with 15 mm spacers by brand producer (H&R, Ichiba, Ultralite) with longer studs and hubcentric rings (need to go from 54.1 to 73.1)
- address one of local companies producing spacers to provide me with 10 mm spacers with integrated centering adaption and buy quality longer studs

There is no easy way, but most probably I will go the first one.



What are hubcentric rings? Is it necessary to use them when you use spacers?


It depends on the hub opening size of your wheels. It has nothing to do with spacers.


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Dec 6, 2006 - 3:48 PM
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your not really running two rims. your basicaly just making the offset of your wheel smaller. ll take some picks and show you what i mean


You are correcting ofset TO THE RIGHT ONE. Celica ofset is +38. so if you are using wheels of +42 so you are putting your rims MORE inside - so using spacers is just putting rims into correct position as it WAS from factory.

Tom - my honest opinion - if you gonna go with 15mm spacers - try to find ones what bolts on to your stock studs and spacers have own studs... 15mm longer studs just doesnt sound too good for me...

Thanks god my new Volks are +32... More then enouth - i will even have to roll my fenders...



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post Dec 6, 2006 - 7:24 PM
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right now i have 16mm spacers on each rear...with longer wheel bolts...0 issues smile.gif
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post Jan 25, 2007 - 8:00 AM
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So finally I have bought H&R spacers: Trak+ DRS system, 15mm per side, with long replacement studs. They look really trustworthy. 125$ per axle.


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'99 ST205 - imported, legalized, Stage 1 completed.
For slow driving: Yamaha XVS650 Drag Star.
The most recent addition to the family and for the family: Toyota RAV4 2.0 VVTi

Celica-Club Poland - Everything you want to know about your favourite car ... in Polish
post Jul 3, 2007 - 6:43 AM
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How are the 15mm H&R's working out for you? I'm faced with similar problem. Had susperstrut front suspension fitted to my Celica and the ST205 brake calipers. There are 25mm spacers on there now, but the ET is a bit too low now. ET45 rims you see. So I'm thinking 15mm H&R as well. Any problems so far?

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