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 Jan 20, 2007 - 8:30 PM
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hey guys, got my Devils Own water/methanol injection kit installed this afternoon, with a 3GPH nozzle, art had told me how much he liked his, so i went ahead and got one.
 i basicly installed it the same as art, very easy to install. MAN, this stuff is awesome.  the best way for me to discribe it is that the car feels like it did when i mixed in the race gas. no hesitating, nothing, just pure power, thruout the RPM band...AND,..i turned the boost back up.... 13+psi will be the new daily..  ..and i havent even touched the emanage yet.. once i get the EM ultimate a bit better fine tuned, ill head back to the dyno to see what it makes on pump, with the smurf piss. i anticipate it will be very close to the race gas mix #s, which would be awesome. race gas #'s with $1.99 windsheild washer fluid.. 
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Jan 20, 2007 - 8:48 PM
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Damn dude.
That's awesome. I definitely need to look into this once my engine/clutch are all set... --------------------  |
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Jan 20, 2007 - 9:26 PM
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glad it worked out well for you manny! post your install pics!
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Jan 20, 2007 - 9:54 PM
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Thats it i'vs seen enough... my h2o/meth kit has been ordered
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Jan 21, 2007 - 3:27 AM
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manny. next time you go for a ride, let us know how much if a change you see in your egt temps. im willing to bet they dropped at least 100degs.
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Jan 21, 2007 - 4:46 AM
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still pushing the 5sfte
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Jan 21, 2007 - 5:48 AM
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Also interested in this, but will wait after all the BPU parts are installed.
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Jan 21, 2007 - 6:31 AM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 21, 2007 - 3:27 AM) [snapback]519661[/snapback] manny. next time you go for a ride, let us know how much if a change you see in your egt temps. im willing to bet they dropped at least 100degs. ill have to get back to you on that art, my egt gauge is hanging in my engine bay right now...my exhaust manifold that has the EGT bung in it is back @ finishline coatings getting recoated. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Jan 21, 2007 - 1:37 PM
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finally getting recoated !! great
when you get that back we will put that back in, I'll see you tonight Manny -------------------- |
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Jan 21, 2007 - 2:41 PM
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awesome! love WI. im glad we have people testing it now.
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Jan 21, 2007 - 3:16 PM
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Jan 20, 2007 - 8:30 PM) [snapback]519573[/snapback] hey guys, got my Devils Own water/methanol injection kit installed this afternoon, with a 3GPH nozzle, art had told me how much he liked his, so i went ahead and got one. i basicly installed it the same as art, very easy to install. MAN, this stuff is awesome. the best way for me to discribe it is that the car feels like it did when i mixed in the race gas. no hesitating, nothing, just pure power, thruout the RPM band...AND,..i turned the boost back up.... 13+psi will be the new daily.. ..and i havent even touched the emanage yet.. once i get the EM ultimate a bit better fine tuned, ill head back to the dyno to see what it makes on pump, with the smurf piss. i anticipate it will be very close to the race gas mix #s, which would be awesome. race gas #'s with $1.99 windsheild washer fluid.. Awsome, will definatly do it on my next project .How much boost would you be pumping in for raceing not daily driving, and with maybe some race gas
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Jan 22, 2007 - 2:55 PM
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Manny - Is your 5S-FTE still on stock internals?
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Jan 22, 2007 - 3:20 PM
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QUOTE(Negative @ Jan 22, 2007 - 2:55 PM) [snapback]520057[/snapback] Manny - Is your 5S-FTE still on stock internals? yes it is -------------------- |
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Jan 22, 2007 - 3:58 PM
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His project gives me such hope - and he gives me such good advice. I think I would have just swapped long ago if not for his results.
Thanks Manny and thanks batman722 for the answer. -------------------- |
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Jan 22, 2007 - 4:59 PM
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QUOTE(Alan @ Jan 21, 2007 - 3:16 PM) [snapback]519757[/snapback] QUOTE(presure2 @ Jan 20, 2007 - 8:30 PM) [snapback]519573[/snapback] hey guys, got my Devils Own water/methanol injection kit installed this afternoon, with a 3GPH nozzle, art had told me how much he liked his, so i went ahead and got one. i basicly installed it the same as art, very easy to install. MAN, this stuff is awesome. the best way for me to discribe it is that the car feels like it did when i mixed in the race gas. no hesitating, nothing, just pure power, thruout the RPM band...AND,..i turned the boost back up.... 13+psi will be the new daily.. ..and i havent even touched the emanage yet.. once i get the EM ultimate a bit better fine tuned, ill head back to the dyno to see what it makes on pump, with the smurf piss. i anticipate it will be very close to the race gas mix #s, which would be awesome. race gas #'s with $1.99 windsheild washer fluid.. Awsome, will definatly do it on my next project .How much boost would you be pumping in for raceing not daily driving, and with maybe some race gas with the meth injection, i can run up to my map sensors limit ~15psi, before fuel cut hits. yea, no internal upgrades on the motor, and as it stands, i have no plans to, or reason to. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Jan 22, 2007 - 5:58 PM
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Which map sensor are you using? The 3s 2bar map is still good to use right?
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Jan 22, 2007 - 11:44 PM
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hmm, I'm curious now. could a water/methanol injection kit be used instead of an intercooler on a turbocharged set-up? also, could it benefit a NA engine?
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Jan 23, 2007 - 2:09 AM
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where are you guys getting this kit from??? ebay?
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Jan 23, 2007 - 2:13 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 12, '06 From Wilmington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 45 (100%) |
QUOTE(rzanology @ Jan 22, 2007 - 11:09 PM) [snapback]520330[/snapback] where are you guys getting this kit from??? ebay? probably http://www.alcohol-injection.com/ -------------------- 94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold 88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold 00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car 95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive |
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Jan 23, 2007 - 3:11 AM
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QUOTE(6strngs @ Jan 22, 2007 - 11:44 PM) [snapback]520296[/snapback] hmm, I'm curious now. could a water/methanol injection kit be used instead of an intercooler on a turbocharged set-up? yes. you can run WI instead of an intercooler. sabb even had a production car that was cooled by water injection alone. i think some supercharger guys use it instead of an IC too. but for our cars, you should have at least a front mount. its a little too risky to just rely on WI for all your cooling needs. an fmic with WI is the way to go. as far as an NA car goes... you wont see much benefit. most 4cyl NA motors and tuned to run on normal pump gas and dont have to deal with the very high cylinder temps that a turbo adds. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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