water/methanol injection installed!, like art said, smurf piss FTW! Options

[x_itchy_b_x]

alot of NA guys use WI so they can advance timing with the added octane.
if your car needs 89octane and u run 93octane but dont tune for it you wont feel a difference.
same thing with WI if you dont tune for it ie: add boost or advance timing youll notice gains.

im sorry if this doenst make sense im sick at home with alot of nightquil? nyquil?

[rzanology]

odered mine

From what im hearing...the only downfall is when you run out of the fluid...you're kinda in danger of everything going lean. what are you guys doing to avoid that? Is that where the "top off everything time you fill up" comes from?

[x_itchy_b_x]

they have level sensor switches and better yet an inline pressure/flow switch you can add in for added precaution. Just check on the level often.

[bojangles_8686]

odered mine

From what im hearing...the only downfall is when you run out of the fluid...you're kinda in danger of everything going lean. what are you guys doing to avoid that? Is that where the "top off everything time you fill up" comes from?

brianforster and i were talking about this the other day. if you use the stock washer fluid tank you would get a warning light showing that you have low washer fluid

[rzanology]

you guys get that??? LMAO!!! i dont get no damn washer fluid warning. i get ebrake up and your air bags not plugged in lol.

but seriously...i dont think the stock tank would be big enough, you might have to run under there and refill more often than you'd want. not a bad idea though.

[rzanology]

hold on hold on hold on. once this is installed....there is no going back? Meaning....if the bottle runs dry....something will break??? From now on will i be pulling over to fill up on washer fluid?

[shin]

hold on hold on hold on. once this is installed....there is no going back? Meaning....if the bottle runs dry....something will break??? From now on will i be pulling over to fill up on washer fluid?

or ya could just fill it up every morning before ya go to work or something. i mean ya gonna pop the hood everyday just to check if everything's alright.. gotta check your oil, leaks etc.. just 1 more stuff to do before ya start driving.. it's mandatory for you since ya turboed your 5s

[lagos]

hold on hold on hold on. once this is installed....there is no going back? Meaning....if the bottle runs dry....something will break??? From now on will i be pulling over to fill up on washer fluid?

huh? if you run out of washer fluid, then the car will run just like it does right now. the only thing will make it unsafe is how much boost you run and how far your trying to push things. if you decied that now you want to run 18psi with water injection (dont do that, its just an example) then you better make sure youre fuild is topped off and everything in the system is working correctly.

http://www.alcohol-injection.com/fluid-lev...witch-p-10.html
they sell this level sensor that you can wire into your setup. it can be wired up to turn off anything you want if the level gets too low. im probably going to buy it and wire it in to shut off my EBC if the level gets low.

i also installed an LED to tell me when the system kicks on. so i could use the level switch to make that led not come on when there isint enough washer fluid in the tank.

[lagos]

rzanology: you have a turbo setup or a 3s swap, right? in you profile it says you have a 5sfe. if thats true then water injection wont work for you.


as far as filling the tank back up. you definetly dont need to do it once a day or anything like that. all if it will depend on the size of your tank, what boost you have it to start at, and how hard youve been driving. i havent even had to refill mine yet. if i had to guess, i would say that if your really really beating on the car, then you might have to fill up at the same time you get gas, but on average a single bottle will last you at least 2-3weeks.

[rzanology]

nah im running a 5sfte....take a look

thats the way my common sense said it would just run like normal...but the A HOLES! i talk to sometimes was saying it will blow your engine and all types of madness. Thanks for clearing it up. WI+fuel pump+460cc+safc tune=happy rza

[lagos]

nah im running a 5sfte....take a look

thats the way my common sense said it would just run like normal...but the A HOLES! i talk to sometimes was saying it will blow your engine and all types of madness. Thanks for clearing it up. WI+fuel pump+460cc+safc tune=happy rza

i think the people who told you it would blow your motor might be thinking of nitrous or something. if you have a 5sfTe it will benefit you in a BIG way. your going to add a HUGE safety net to your setup to help deal with the NA timing and high compression that your 5sfe normally has, and cut down on any chance of detonation. it will pretty much give you the same results as if you were able to fill the car up with race gas.

[lagos]

in car vid from my last dyno run.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...D2D247567392394

look at the green LED next to the boost gauge. i wired that in to come on every time WI is spraying. if i get the level switch, i can wire it up so that the LED will not come on if the system is low on fluid.

[rzanology]

reeeeally nice...get us a lil write up on that. That may very well be a needed step.

[lagos]

its really simple.

buy a 12v green led, with built in resistor from radio shack for 2bucks.
connect the red wire to any switched 12 power source.
splice in the black wire to the same wire that runs from the WI's pressure switch, to the relay.

[6strngs]

in car vid from my last dyno run.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...D2D247567392394

look at the green LED next to the boost gauge. i wired that in to come on every time WI is spraying. if i get the level switch, i can wire it up so that the LED will not come on if the system is low on fluid.

wow, your boost climbs way faster after the WI kicks in! very nice, I wish my car could accellerate that fast in 4th. lol

[WALKER]

manny. next time you go for a ride, let us know how much if a change you see in your egt temps. im willing to bet they dropped at least 100degs.

Sorry, this is off topic, but just wondering what range of EGT's are you guys seeing without water injection, I am just looking into gauges and am wondering are they ever over 1600F? I have been looking at a couple of options, one is 1600F max and the other is 2200F max.

[presure2]

manny. next time you go for a ride, let us know how much if a change you see in your egt temps. im willing to bet they dropped at least 100degs.

Sorry, this is off topic, but just wondering what range of EGT's are you guys seeing without water injection, I am just looking into gauges and am wondering are they ever over 1600F? I have been looking at a couple of options, one is 1600F max and the other is 2200F max.

assuming theyre both quality gauges, i would get the higher one.
last i had my gauge in (i took the maifold off for recoating) i was seeing temps climbing to 14-1500 under boost...before the 460s, it was constantly rising. from what ive read, anything over 1650 is bad bad bad. most recommend a lower point than that.
ive seen 1600* temps under boost when i had the small injectors.
im really looking forward to see what they will be with the WI once i get the manifold back and the EGT back in.

[jgreening]

manny. next time you go for a ride, let us know how much if a change you see in your egt temps. im willing to bet they dropped at least 100degs.

Sorry, this is off topic, but just wondering what range of EGT's are you guys seeing without water injection, I am just looking into gauges and am wondering are they ever over 1600F? I have been looking at a couple of options, one is 1600F max and the other is 2200F max.

Mine got over 1500F but never up to 1600F.

[jgreening]

if you run out of washer fluid, then the car will run just like it does right now. the only thing will make it unsafe is how much boost you run and how far your trying to push things.

The bold statement is true if you are using only the stock ECU. However, if you tune more agressively through ignition timing advance or leaner a/f ratios with your water injection on, running out of water or some other malfunction could result in real trouble.

[OOBE]

race gas #'s with $1.99 windsheild washer fluid..

That's awesome, man. Here in PR people don't believe in that stuff and rather fill up on VP.