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> water/methanol injection installed!, like art said, smurf piss FTW!
post Jul 15, 2007 - 8:48 PM
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Got my Devils Own water/methanol injection installed. Finished it up this afternoon. I spent a whole day after locating where to install everything and then fabricating brackets to make it fit. Take a look at pics in my profile. I don't know how to post pics in forums. I got the 2quart tank from Devils own and this is just small enough allowing me to fit the pump and tank in between the power steering resevoir and the original windshield water tank. It has a black plastic cover on it to keep everything clean and out of site. I also installed the green LED next to my boost gauge that lights up when injection is operational. My impression: Car pulls very quickly and steadily all throughout the my stock boost range. Basically, it makes the car feels very light. I'm seeing just a tad over 10psi when normally this warm out, I see around 8-9 top. Oh yeah, I can now literally touch the intercooler piping above my valve cover after a run without getting burned. I'm yet to raise my boost, kinda need the courage to add that MBC to go over toyota's stock boost and fuel cut LOL.
Anyway, If money is not an issue, I recommend it to swappers.
Thanks Lagos and Pressure2.

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post Jul 16, 2007 - 12:38 PM
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glad to see this is working out well for everyone.


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post Jul 16, 2007 - 1:21 PM
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Would love to install a kit as well. Only problem is to find a suitable location on the ST205 engine. Before the W2A IC is not an option and after there is only room on the rubber gator and the throttle body housing itself.


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post Jul 16, 2007 - 1:22 PM
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from what i hear, most alltrac guys install it in the top mount, right after the turbo.


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post Jul 16, 2007 - 1:40 PM
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It just doesn't seem right to spray water before the intercooler. The closer to the TB the better the performance right? Just compare it with your setup. It wouldn't be that good if you sprayed before your FMIC.


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post Jul 16, 2007 - 2:03 PM
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yeah your right... but im just saying what ive seen most alltrac guys do. it would still benefit you since there is such a short distance from the turbo to the throttle body.


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post Jul 16, 2007 - 5:19 PM
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QUOTE(Kadett @ Jul 16, 2007 - 1:21 PM) [snapback]579133[/snapback]

Would love to install a kit as well. Only problem is to find a suitable location on the ST205 engine. Before the W2A IC is not an option and after there is only room on the rubber gator and the throttle body housing itself.


if you don't have an ABS unit( i think) that seats between the windshield washer and power steering reservoir, you can fit the pump and 6"x4" tank at that location. That's how I did mine. So everything is in the engine bay and your methanol/water tank will be conveniently next to the washer fluid reservoir.
But if you have ABS unit, then you can still fit it in the trunk like Lagos did his.



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post Jul 16, 2007 - 7:51 PM
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QUOTE(malecrod @ Jul 16, 2007 - 5:19 PM) [snapback]579236[/snapback]

QUOTE(Kadett @ Jul 16, 2007 - 1:21 PM) [snapback]579133[/snapback]

Would love to install a kit as well. Only problem is to find a suitable location on the ST205 engine. Before the W2A IC is not an option and after there is only room on the rubber gator and the throttle body housing itself.


if you don't have an ABS unit( i think) that seats between the windshield washer and power steering reservoir, you can fit the pump and 6"x4" tank at that location. That's how I did mine. So everything is in the engine bay and your methanol/water tank will be conveniently next to the washer fluid reservoir.
But if you have ABS unit, then you can still fit it in the trunk like Lagos did his.

Or, you could relocate your battery to the trunk and put the pump and washer bottle in the batterys old location.
post Jul 17, 2007 - 11:36 AM
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You guys miss the point. Putting the pump/reservoir etc etc isn't a problem. Thats very easy to accomplish. The thing I need is a good location for the nozzle to be placed. What Art suggested (from all trac guys) isn't good enough for me. I want it as close to the TB as possible.


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post Jul 17, 2007 - 12:34 PM
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Where did you get that from? tongue.gif
Most alltrac guys I know running WI, have the nozzle on the TB inlet.
And the water tank should be as far as possible from the heat source (engine)

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post Jul 17, 2007 - 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(Gary @ Jul 17, 2007 - 7:34 PM) [snapback]579431[/snapback]

Where did you get that from? tongue.gif
Most alltrac guys I know running WI, have the nozzle on the TB inlet.
And the water tank should be as far as possible from the heat source (engine)


QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 16, 2007 - 8:22 PM) [snapback]579134[/snapback]

from what i hear, most alltrac guys install it in the top mount, right after the turbo.


Thats where, in this topic smile.gif When I'm gonna purchase the kit and plan to do the TB location I will let a Tuning Shop (a good one of course) do it for me. Dont wanna f&^k things up especially something that has to do with drilling and taping into your intake system laugh.gif


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post Jul 17, 2007 - 1:05 PM
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good idea


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post Jul 17, 2007 - 5:32 PM
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QUOTE(Kadett @ Jul 17, 2007 - 1:48 PM) [snapback]579441[/snapback]

QUOTE(Gary @ Jul 17, 2007 - 7:34 PM) [snapback]579431[/snapback]

Where did you get that from? tongue.gif
Most alltrac guys I know running WI, have the nozzle on the TB inlet.
And the water tank should be as far as possible from the heat source (engine)


QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 16, 2007 - 8:22 PM) [snapback]579134[/snapback]

from what i hear, most alltrac guys install it in the top mount, right after the turbo.


Thats where, in this topic smile.gif When I'm gonna purchase the kit and plan to do the TB location I will let a Tuning Shop (a good one of course) do it for me. Dont wanna f&^k things up especially something that has to do with drilling and taping into your intake system laugh.gif



i wouldnt trust or pay anyone to install WI. you wouldn't want some genius to start drilling your intake manifold or something.

your only options would be to try to install it in the rubber coupled by the TB, or somewhere in the intercooler, like that long section after the turbo. the rubber coupler is a gamble, because it might not seal right.


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post Jul 17, 2007 - 6:55 PM
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I used a small section of the aluminum intercooler piping to install the nossle. I put the injector just before the rubber section before the throttle body. I can give pics if you want. The only problem I had was I ran the tube along the intercooler piping. It melted! Now its ok with some exhaust wrap around it.
I didnt want to put the injector before the intercooler. I was afraid the washer fluid would pool up.
post Jul 18, 2007 - 10:37 AM
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Sure if you can give me a few pics!


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post Jul 18, 2007 - 7:20 PM
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x2. show sum pix !


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post Jul 18, 2007 - 7:45 PM
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post Jul 19, 2007 - 9:22 AM
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Thx for the pics, but it doesn't help me in my case. ST205 with W2A intercooler.


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post Jul 19, 2007 - 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(Kadett @ Jul 19, 2007 - 7:22 AM) [snapback]580183[/snapback]

Thx for the pics, but it doesn't help me in my case. ST205 with W2A intercooler.
I'm planning on doing water/methanol injection on my ST205 motor too... It'll be fun to try to find a spot to put it in the 3" or so between the intercooler and throttle body... smile.gif

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post Jul 19, 2007 - 4:49 PM
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I have had the same issue with this nozzle. It's either going through the rubber inlet, or replacing the cold start injector. I am not drilling a hole in my IC.


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