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> Someone commited suicide this morning
post Mar 20, 2007 - 2:51 PM
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From religion wise. Suicide is a ticket to hell. Suicide is usually caused by intense and uncontrollable situations where it seems to be the only choice they have left.

Depends on which kind of religion... I would mention at last two of them where kill your self is fine (more over it gets higher respect)...



so mention them. i would like to know.


What about in Japan back in the old days (maybe even now, who knows) when someone dishonors his family and he committs suicide as atonement for his sin or rather than being defeated in battle by an enemy. Hara-kiri, its called i think.

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post Mar 20, 2007 - 4:59 PM
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organized religion is ridiculous, if you are a good person, you go to heaven, end of story.. all three major monotheistic religions now believe this.

i cant believe people still think there is some imaginary gold star system where you can only get to heaven with X amount of gold stars.
post Mar 20, 2007 - 5:22 PM
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im agnostic... some of this stuff is funny.


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post Mar 20, 2007 - 5:45 PM
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6 feet under sounds like a plan to me. Well actually i opt for cremation


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post Mar 20, 2007 - 6:44 PM
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christianity..being a good person doesn't get you into heaven...neither does gold stars...
post Mar 20, 2007 - 6:55 PM
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i want to be cremated and put in my gas tank.


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post Mar 20, 2007 - 7:34 PM
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How do you define between suicide and marterism? If ones belief says it is ok
and anothers says not, who judges?


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post Mar 20, 2007 - 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(97lestyousay @ Mar 20, 2007 - 8:34 PM) [snapback]538163[/snapback]

How do you define between suicide and marterism? If ones belief says it is ok
and anothers says not, who judges?


no one. Thats why our world is messed up.. theres always 2 ways to interpret something.. maybe even more.
post Mar 20, 2007 - 11:20 PM
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that sucks. a kid that graduated high school with me committed suicide a few months back. it was weird cuz he was a pretty cool guy in high school... honor student, ran track, school spirited, people loved him. made me wonder if he actually commited suicide. they found him in his car with the engine left running inside his garage. now how easy would it be to knock a guy out, place him in a garaged car, and leave the engine running. but then again i never really talked to him after graduation. anywho... i'm catholic. suicide is a one-way ticket to hell. that's my belief and i won't try to change anyone else's.


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post Mar 21, 2007 - 1:50 AM
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QUOTE(Toyoca @ Mar 20, 2007 - 5:01 PM) [snapback]537985[/snapback]

QUOTE(malpaso @ Mar 20, 2007 - 9:53 AM) [snapback]537983[/snapback]

QUOTE(jdg371 @ Mar 20, 2007 - 2:46 AM) [snapback]537834[/snapback]

From religion wise. Suicide is a ticket to hell. Suicide is usually caused by intense and uncontrollable situations where it seems to be the only choice they have left.

Depends on which kind of religion... I would mention at last two of them where kill your self is fine (more over it gets higher respect)...

so mention them. i would like to know.

Slick and x_itchy_b_x did that before I had a chance... btw. do not do that means huge dishonor for whole family not just for sepuku "performer"...

QUOTE(Slick @ Mar 20, 2007 - 8:51 PM) [snapback]538063[/snapback]

What about in Japan back in the old days (maybe even now, who knows) when someone dishonors his family and he committs suicide as atonement for his sin or rather than being defeated in battle by an enemy. Hara-kiri, its called i think.


QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Mar 20, 2007 - 5:02 PM) [snapback]538003[/snapback]

its the one were if you die in the name of allah you get 72 virgins in the afterlife. something to that affect.
*i guess its jihad, my bad. don't kill yourself. its bad. you die. forever.




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post Mar 21, 2007 - 9:09 AM
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QUOTE(malpaso @ Mar 21, 2007 - 1:50 AM) [snapback]538273[/snapback]

QUOTE(Toyoca @ Mar 20, 2007 - 5:01 PM) [snapback]537985[/snapback]

QUOTE(malpaso @ Mar 20, 2007 - 9:53 AM) [snapback]537983[/snapback]

QUOTE(jdg371 @ Mar 20, 2007 - 2:46 AM) [snapback]537834[/snapback]

From religion wise. Suicide is a ticket to hell. Suicide is usually caused by intense and uncontrollable situations where it seems to be the only choice they have left.

Depends on which kind of religion... I would mention at last two of them where kill your self is fine (more over it gets higher respect)...

so mention them. i would like to know.

Slick and x_itchy_b_x did that before I had a chance... btw. do not do that means huge dishonor for whole family not just for sepuku "performer"...

QUOTE(Slick @ Mar 20, 2007 - 8:51 PM) [snapback]538063[/snapback]

What about in Japan back in the old days (maybe even now, who knows) when someone dishonors his family and he committs suicide as atonement for his sin or rather than being defeated in battle by an enemy. Hara-kiri, its called i think.


QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Mar 20, 2007 - 5:02 PM) [snapback]538003[/snapback]

its the one were if you die in the name of allah you get 72 virgins in the afterlife. something to that affect.
*i guess its jihad, my bad. don't kill yourself. its bad. you die. forever.



im talking about suicides due to personal, mental problems.


btw im catholic but that doesnt mean i cant have my own personal opinions about things.
I believe that anyone one from any religion can get into "heaven" if they are good people.
post Mar 21, 2007 - 9:38 AM
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QUOTE(Toyoca @ Mar 21, 2007 - 3:09 PM) [snapback]538308[/snapback]

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btw im catholic but that doesnt mean i cant have my own personal opinions about things.
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Please NO FENCE, but if you are catholic you just can't have your own opinion... your religion "forcing" you exact opinion (and same is with other religions)... that's my personal opinion smile.gif.

However agree metal/personal problem is different story... no question about that.


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post Mar 21, 2007 - 9:52 AM
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QUOTE(malpaso @ Mar 21, 2007 - 9:38 AM) [snapback]538314[/snapback]

QUOTE(Toyoca @ Mar 21, 2007 - 3:09 PM) [snapback]538308[/snapback]

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btw im catholic but that doesnt mean i cant have my own personal opinions about things.
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Please NO FENCE, but if you are catholic you just can't have your own opinion... your religion "forcing" you exact opinion (and same is with other religions)... that's my personal opinion smile.gif.

However agree metal/personal problem is different story... no question about that.


although religions have intrinsic beliefs and values, it is a fact that I AM CATHOLIC, i was baptized, blah blah blah. it is also a fact that my PERSONAL BELIEFS dont completely concur with those catholic beliefs. concur?
post Mar 21, 2007 - 10:08 AM
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They shouldn't. This isn't the dark ages and you have the right and need to make your own opinions. People must remember the Bible was influenced by God, written by men and translated by Tyrant Kings who used religion to control their people. There is bound to be some misinformation in there.


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post Mar 21, 2007 - 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(Negative @ Mar 21, 2007 - 11:08 AM) [snapback]538331[/snapback]

They shouldn't. This isn't the dark ages and you have the right and need to make your own opinions. People must remember the Bible was influenced by God, written by men and translated by Tyrant Kings who used religion to control their people. There is bound to be some misinformation in there.


LIES! God wrote the bible! dinosaurs never lived because they weren't mentioned in the bible and the earth is only 6000 years old. bah science. wink.gif


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