my car plans, big edit Options

[j0e_p3t]

nos definitely does not belong on a dd. its extremely flammable and the more you drive, the more likely you are to get into an accident. especially for inexperienced 16-year-olds. just get a 4age blacktop. or wait till you can afford a turbo/v6 engine or the high gas prices. but other than that, mods look good.

This post has been edited by j0e_p3t: May 13, 2007 - 11:28 PM

[6gsillyca]

Why is your goal 20mpg, 150hp?

You can almost make anything (within reason) 20+ mpg. Direct relationship: heavy foot, more speed/acceleration = more you fill 'er up. Fuel economy and power do NOT go hand in hand. You want one, you sacrafice the other.

As for hp why don't you lighten your car. It would be cheaper/easier to do than an engine swap...You could only have 130-140 hp but with a lighter car, it would have the same effect (hp/lb ratio). Thats why street bikes can only have 100hp but be fast as snot on the road. It's because they only weigh 300lbs...

And no, nos probably won't be your answer. If your only getting it to show "your not a rice rocket" then the $3.50 gas prices should be the least of your worries. Nos isn't cheap to fill. Especially just for bragging rights, not to mention engine problems with an unprepped engine...

[CelicaGT04]

Why is your goal 20mpg, 150hp?

As for hp why don't you lighten your car. It would be cheaper/easier to do than an engine swap...You could only have 130-140 hp but with a lighter car, it would have the same effect (hp/lb ratio). Thats why street bikes can only have 100hp but be fast as snot on the road. It's because they only weigh 300lbs...

If he is trying to go for the "non rice rocket" look, i seriously do not think this is for you. I doubt gutting your car is going to give you much hp unless you GUT IT.. and by that i mean driver seat made out of cardboard and paper floor mats... I mean think of it.. our car is a light weight as it is at i think its 2600lbs (curb) and our car is STILL SLOW!!! lol. So i seriously think unless you want to drive around a metal cart for 10hp extra DONT DO IT! (THIS IS MY OPINION BTW!!) I really do not see the need to gut your car unless you are on the verge of running high 12s low 13s in the 1/4 mile.

I just dont see the need to gut your car 100lbs (if you can gut that much stuff) and still only gain the equivalent of 5HP??? Boggles my mind!

I think you should go for a red top beams!! SEXY!!

[6gsillyca]

No no, I'm not saying it would be the best thing to do, or that he even should do it, but I was just throwing that out there as an option to an engine swap (depending on what he's looking for)...

[MaskedMan]

Also on the NITROUS (not NOS) note, it's recommended that you run Premium gas when using nitrous anyways.

[6strngs]

when I was 15 and 16, when I had my permit and was just getting my license, I thought I was a pretty good driver too. Then I had a couple close calls and I realize now that I'm 10x better now than I was then. and I wouldn't claim to be the world's best driver now either! this really doesn't say alot considering I'm only 17 now, but still.

that said. A turbo ST probably still gets just as good if not better gas milage than a stock GT. if premium is like $.30 more than regular. if you think about it if you put 10 gallons in it's only like $3 more. so you go from $35 fill-up to a $38. I dunno about you, but $3 is worth it to me to have all the power from a turbo.

[spolski07]

130hp?
just swap in a 5SFE
lots of guys are getting 3sgte's into their GT's so look for one on here for cheap!
thats just an idea though
5sfe 135hp/145lb-ft torque (thats what edmunds.com says)

[CelicaST_CALI]

yea im perty sure im not doing nos..I think turboing my ST would be fine.What find of $ would i have to spend to turbo my 7A-FE?Yea thx a lot for all this..i love this site:D.Also y is painting the interior so hard?

[DSToyo]

^ i think it would be almost 3000 maybe more for the turbo setup (if you do it right) as for the interior pieces, if you want it to look good, you have to sand them down a lot and apply a few coats of paint in including primer and clear.

[CelicaST_CALI]

so i should buy the turbo brand new or off ebay or another site?.Also all i have to do is install only the turbo or do i have to buy something else?And i can ride the bus to school i guess when i start moding so it would be no problem if the car doesnt run for a while when i do the interior or the turbo.

[Sinyk]

Where are you as a 15 year old getting the cash for all this? Parents?

[6strngs]

You need alot more than just a turbocharger to tubro a Naturally aspirated car. fuel injectors, fuel pump, intercooler and all associated piping, couplers, and clamps, blow off vlave, gauges, custom oil lines, etc. it'll probably cost between $2,000-$3,000 for everything. I've spent about $1600 so far towards my turbo and I estimate another $600-700 more left to buy! but even though that's pretty expensive, it's still cheaper than an engine swap.

also, don't bother with a 5sfe swap. It'll be just as difficult as a 3sgte swap but won't give you near the same amount of gains. it's alot of time and money to be spent for an engine with only like 20 more hp than a 7afe. If the 5sfe was so great, people wouldn't be swapping them for 3sgte's!

[MercuryFree]

How expensive is nos?

Off the top of my head, it's $3.20 USD/lb, and when you're using it you're going through like 1lb/second.

Also y is painting the interior so hard?

All else aside, think how long it's gonna take to strip everything out , and then put it back together when you're done

This post has been edited by MercuryFree: May 14, 2007 - 3:21 PM

[6strngs]

if you are painting all of your interior, like the dash, center console, etc. then it will be hard and take a while.

but, if you're referring to just painting the trim around the cd player and door handle trim and stuff, which is what I think you're refering to, it won't be that hard. from what I hear the hardest part is getting the paint to stick. so you either ruff it up some with sand-paper, or you can buy some krylon paint made for plastic which I think some people have used with good results.

This post has been edited by 6strngs: May 14, 2007 - 3:34 PM

[purplegt4]

Learn to know your car and how she drives. You'd be a better driver if you didn't feel the need for more power. You could probably hang with your friends in their faster cars with that celica. The speed limit is 55 on the highway Don't speed.


If something isn't not broken don't fix it. When something does break, upgrade Doing so will save you money in case a water pump blows or starter needs replacing. She is 13 years old.

[6strngs]

Learn to know your car and how she drives. You'd be a better driver if you didn't feel the need for more power. You could probably hang with your friends in their faster cars with that celica. The speed limit is 55 on the highway Don't speed.


If something isn't not broken don't fix it. When something does break, upgrade Doing so will save you money in case a water pump blows or starter needs replacing. She is 13 years old.

actually, around here (and I live in the scaramento area) speed limit on the freeway is 65. but to keep up with the flow of traffic you need to go at least 75. unless there is traffic (and there usually is). then you go between 5 and 20 mph. woot!

[CelicaST_CALI]

lol sos o true about sac,im actually east of sac not in it. And the answer to the $ question is im just going to save for a while.i have 1000$ right now.I think ill drive the car normal and stock for about a year then start.So if i want to turbo my 7A-FE what are all the things i will need?Its all stock right now.Nos is out its to dangerous and expensive.And all i want to do is take the trim out not the whole thing.

[6strngs]

lol sos o true about sac,im actually east of sac not in it. And the answer to the $ question is im just going to save for a while.i have 1000$ right now.I think ill drive the car normal and stock for about a year then start.So if i want to turbo my 7A-FE what are all the things i will need?Its all stock right now.Nos is out its to dangerous and expensive.And all i want to do is take the trim out not the whole thing.

I'm not very familiar with how to turbo a 7A. but you should start here: http://www.6gc.net/index.php?action=howto&itu=128

this is not a small project, mind you, I've been searching for parts, talking to people, and asking questions for months and I'm still not done... but I'm close

[Shocker]

True that about going turbo..
I have everything neccesary to turbo my st..
And after I helped turbo a freinds Celica. I noticed that all my turbo stuff has been sitting in the garage collecting dust just because i dont want to spend the time doing it..
But definatly expect to spend at least 3000..and thats going cheap on some parts..But do not go cheap on your turbo..and stay away from ssautochrome and their garbage..

[CelicaST_CALI]

can someone give me a list of ever part ima need to buy to turbo my completly stock7A-FE?And whats the rough hp gain ima get with a turbo?

This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: May 14, 2007 - 10:18 PM