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post Jul 20, 2007 - 2:14 PM
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How long do you leave your Turbo Timer on for after a standard run in the 6GC? Sometimes after an easy run i leave the car running for 2-3 mins and even then i hear it bubbling for a minute or two... I also come down a hill to my house which helps cool her down... just wanted your thoughts

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post Jul 20, 2007 - 2:26 PM
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Normal driving: 90 seconds. If I drove it hard right before I stop, 2-2.5m.

I think your doing a bit of overkill


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post Jul 20, 2007 - 2:37 PM
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If continueous driving up to 2500 RPM depending on temp gauge and what I did the rest of the trip 30-60 seconds.

Highway driving @ 3000-3500 rpm I would let it go for about 3 minutes.

High Power, as in continueous going up to 6-7k rpm about 5-6 minutes even more if temperature is very hot (110+ degrees C) But thats only happened once or twice.


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post Jul 20, 2007 - 2:52 PM
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1.5-2.0 mins for most driving, 3 mins max.
Idling car for too long is never a good idea.


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post Jul 20, 2007 - 3:15 PM
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6 minutes? wow. Out of curiosity I googled recommended times but came up with no results.


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post Jul 20, 2007 - 3:31 PM
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QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Jul 20, 2007 - 4:15 PM) [snapback]580617[/snapback]

6 minutes? wow. Out of curiosity I googled recommended times but came up with no results.

Manual says 120 sec.


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post Jul 20, 2007 - 4:19 PM
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oh well, im not doing it too bad i guess. Better safe than sorry i always say, dont fancy blowing the turbo for the sake of a few minutes on the turbo timer


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post Jul 21, 2007 - 12:55 AM
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QUOTE(Gary @ Jul 20, 2007 - 7:52 PM) [snapback]580608[/snapback]

Idling car for too long is never a good idea.

Can you please explain your reasoning behind this?


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post Jul 21, 2007 - 1:01 AM
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QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Jul 20, 2007 - 10:15 PM) [snapback]580617[/snapback]

6 minutes? wow. Out of curiosity I googled recommended times but came up with no results.



Like I said, happened only 1/2 times. The Turbo Timer (HKS anyway) has a built in RPM/Speed meter. It calculates (on auto mode) how long the engine need to run after ignition off. Nowadays when I do a high rev/speed run I just drive for a bit at 2000-2500 rpm with no boost to cool it down and then let it rest for the normal 30-60 seconds period.


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post Jul 21, 2007 - 8:06 AM
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QUOTE(SlowCelica94 @ Jul 21, 2007 - 1:55 AM) [snapback]580762[/snapback]

QUOTE(Gary @ Jul 20, 2007 - 7:52 PM) [snapback]580608[/snapback]

Idling car for too long is never a good idea.

Can you please explain your reasoning behind this?

It is wastes of gas, more pollution, dirty plugs, more contaminant in oil.
Cooling system also works harder (both turbo bearing and oil are water cooled).


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post Jul 21, 2007 - 11:45 AM
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Waste of gas? If you leave your car ideling for about 15 mins, you'll use less gas then the start up process.

As far as the rest of your claims, all those things would only even make a noticeable difference if the car was ideled for about 4-5 hours


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post Jul 21, 2007 - 4:06 PM
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QUOTE(SlowCelica94 @ Jul 21, 2007 - 9:45 AM) [snapback]580830[/snapback]

Waste of gas? If you leave your car ideling for about 15 mins, you'll use less gas then the start up process.

As far as the rest of your claims, all those things would only even make a noticeable difference if the car was ideled for about 4-5 hours

OWNED ! lol


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post Jul 21, 2007 - 4:28 PM
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Make sure the turbo timer is hooked up correctly so the cooling fans will come on! I have my cooling fans hard wired all the time through a switch. or you could just unplug the coolant temp switch on the radiator. My switch went bad and car was getting hot at idle.
I cool mine for at least 1 1/2 minutes. After a hot day of hard driving, 2 1/2-3 1/2 minutes.

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post Jul 21, 2007 - 7:16 PM
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QUOTE(SlowCelica94 @ Jul 21, 2007 - 12:45 PM) [snapback]580830[/snapback]

Waste of gas? If you leave your car ideling for about 15 mins, you'll use less gas then the start up process.
As far as the rest of your claims, all those things would only even make a noticeable difference if the car was ideled for about 4-5 hours

Comparing to starting up process is a moot point.
We are talking about how long should we idling the car in order to prevent coking.
Noticeable or not, it is the fact.
Longer idling causes more pollution and waste more gas than shorter idling.
You don't need more than 2-3 mins to cool the turbo down.




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post Jul 21, 2007 - 9:18 PM
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QUOTE(Gary @ Jul 22, 2007 - 12:16 AM) [snapback]580941[/snapback]

QUOTE(SlowCelica94 @ Jul 21, 2007 - 12:45 PM) [snapback]580830[/snapback]

Waste of gas? If you leave your car ideling for about 15 mins, you'll use less gas then the start up process.
As far as the rest of your claims, all those things would only even make a noticeable difference if the car was ideled for about 4-5 hours

Comparing to starting up process is a moot point.
We are talking about how long should we idling the car in order to prevent coking.
Noticeable or not, it is the fact.
Longer idling causes more pollution and waste more gas than shorter idling.
You don't need more than 2-3 mins to cool the turbo down.

Well I compare it to the start up process because it'd you're not ideling the car. . .you shut it off.
Prevent coking? If your car on cocaine?
Longer idling with cuz more more pullution then longer idling, yes thats true.....and frankly common sense.

I don't see what you're aruging about anymore. Sorry, you were mistaken, I wasn't trying to be rude.


As far turbo cooling goes, a lot depends on your last few minutes of driving before turning off the car. If you're gentle before parking, 30 seconds will be fine. If you were driving real hard, give her at least a mile of nice easy driving to let your heat exchangers work. Then idle her for about a minute.


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post Jul 21, 2007 - 9:34 PM
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QUOTE(SlowCelica94 @ Jul 21, 2007 - 10:18 PM) [snapback]580954[/snapback]

Prevent coking? If your car on cocaine?

do a search on oil coking wink.gif


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post Jul 22, 2007 - 12:25 AM
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I did, and still fail to see how this could effect even most 3S 6GC owners. Sounds to me like you've been doing more research then actaully work.


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post Jul 22, 2007 - 10:34 AM
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That's probably true, since my job is doing research. laugh.gif

Coking occurs when the turbo is not properly cool down.
It is one of the reasons of turbo failure. (CT26 included)

Here is a collection of what companies say about hot shutdown and oil starving.
http://www.turbosafeplus.com/news_clips.html



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post Jul 22, 2007 - 12:19 PM
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45sec.


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post Jul 22, 2007 - 1:34 PM
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Yes, but we already have established that this certain vechile WILL be timed down. So oil coking isn't too likely.


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