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Aug 8, 2003 - 4:38 PM
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Today, as I went to the Toyota dealership to look for a 6sp GT-S I learned a few things. I learned that they've only made a dozen GT-S's that are 6speeds within the last year and a half. I also learned that either next year or the after they are dropping the GT-S in the USA. The year after that the Celica will be dropped all together. And when it's dropped, it will be sad for some of us...
But for those who can afford to spend more than 35k on a car it will be happy. The Supra will be returning to the USA in that year. It will still sport the 2JZ-GTTE engine, with upgraded technology however...which may bring it a new number in the JZ engine line. It will be a brand new body style, and no information besides the fact that there will be one when the Celica is dropped has been leaked. I have no further information besides it will come out and it will sport a 3.0L inline 6 twin turbo optional engine. Later. -------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
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Aug 8, 2003 - 4:40 PM
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Dunno...can you really trust a dealer?
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Aug 8, 2003 - 4:42 PM
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Are you sure about all that? I know that the people at my local Toyota dealer aren't very smart and often try to give me misleading information.
If it's true, it sucks that they're killing off the Celica, but seeing the Supra back would be awesome! -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Aug 8, 2003 - 4:44 PM
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they are gonna drop the celica??? that doesn't make any sense, the 7th gen has sold very well since its release. and besides, its got so much history, why would they risk all that??? I'm confused.
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Aug 8, 2003 - 5:17 PM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 30, '03 From Virginia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I don't think they would be smart in dropping it at all... I look forward to the Supra, though. I hope it still has the 2JZ, but it might not be likely. Nate has information on the 'new' Supra that seems totally different. Who knows.
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Aug 8, 2003 - 5:18 PM
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Aug 8, 2003 - 5:21 PM
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Thats misleading and wrong. Read all my old posts. WHo would you elieve. A toyota dealershiop or my sources from Toyota of Japan Headquarters?
-Nate |
Aug 8, 2003 - 5:29 PM
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Oh yea its 2JZ-GTE.
And yea.in the beginning Celica sales were very strong. Up a whopping 230% from 6GC Sales. They are still selling quite a few but sales are dropping off...I doubt tehy are makign a dozen are so....Do you know why the salesman said dozen? to make the 6 speed seem more rare to entice you to buy it! =) Supra with 2JZ? Unlikely although a 25th Anniversary Supra TT would be great (For more info on the next supra...look up my posts) Bottom Line: Celica is not goign to die and Toyota is hard at work for the next Supra and a side one...for guess what......an Exotic (New information =P). -Nate |
Aug 8, 2003 - 5:56 PM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined May 17, '03 From Ontario, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Doubtful at best. Rumors about a new supra come up all of the time. They are very hot right now due to the upcoming refresh on the IS300. and as for an inline six, nope. the new IS300 is rumoured to be going to a V-6 for packaging and crash reasons. I check the online spies pages, this one is one of the best out there:
http://www.imakenews.com/autospies/ I would bet that an IS300 coupe would be much more probable than a supra. jus my $0.02 |
Aug 8, 2003 - 6:24 PM
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here is a link to some recent rumors about a new supra:
http://carspyshots.proboards2.com/index.cg...&num=1059973029 sorry about the DP. |
Aug 8, 2003 - 7:45 PM
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yeah and 3 yrs ago some salesman said to my dad that they were going to stop making the new vw beetles after 2001.
dropping the celica would take toyota out of a big part of the market. and i HIGHLY doubt that only 12 celica GTS 6spds have been made in this comming model year. the main reason sales are down is because it has been 4 years since the 7th gen came out. what happens when sales go down on a model of a car? you change something. they are probably going to drop the 7th gen and introduce the 8th gen -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Aug 8, 2003 - 7:49 PM
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ya that dealer is BS, after investing money into the ZZ platform i dont think they would drop the gts and leave the matrix theonly car with the 2zz.... celica has been around for ever and will remain
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Aug 8, 2003 - 8:08 PM
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Call toyota motor corp. cause i think that dealer is BS.. mainly cause toyota is about making money.. and the celica makes them money... they stopped making the supra cause people were not buying them.. and the 7th gen Celica sells like weed at a wu concert..
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Aug 8, 2003 - 9:05 PM
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I like metaphor that you used here. This post has been edited by Andason: Aug 8, 2003 - 9:06 PM -------------------- i am awesome
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Aug 8, 2003 - 11:48 PM
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The celica has to stay but they should be put on a rwd platfrom, like the old school celicas, can we say potential Silvia killer?
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Aug 9, 2003 - 12:07 AM
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i dont know though....back when my roomate had a honda prelude he was on boards and forums and i remember a thread similar to this saying "the prelude is gonna die" and nearly everyone doubted it and said "Honda will never kill the prelude...it has a lot of history and style" and Honda did kill the prelude they stopped production and no one saw it coming except that one guy that posted nearly the same info ....a honda sales rep at a honda dealership found out they're going to stop production of the prelude so i would never say never |
Aug 9, 2003 - 12:37 AM
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Well they'll definately keep the celica around until the release of the new Supra, which would be in 2006 from what Nate said a while ago cuz Toyota wouldnt go without a sports car in their model lineup.....ever. But even after the Supras introduction, im sure they'll keep it like bonzaisushi and 97sccelica were saying about the zz platform and how it wouldnt make sense to eliminate it. Also Celicas keep Eclipse sales under wraps too, and thats something that Toyota probably wouldnt wanna lose. The phasing out the Prelude doesnt suprise me though, because while it was a nostalgic model for Honda the Accord 2 door and the Civic more than cover what the Prelude could offer with the ammount of aftermarket stuff available for the other 2 models.
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Aug 9, 2003 - 12:59 AM
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I say and say agian..you say you were interested in a 6 Speed Celica correct? Then the dealer says how rare it is..tis to entice you to buy it! nuff' said =)
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Aug 9, 2003 - 1:07 AM
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Agreed...
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Aug 9, 2003 - 3:26 AM
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preludes kept getting heavier and more expensive. the power went up, the price went up, but performance stayed put. besides, the s2000 was brought out as a replacement. i know they are not nearly the same type of car, but they are in the same price range, except the s2000 is a RWD vert. the way i see it is the s2000 is the new prelude, with all the improvements that were needed. **IF** the celica line is dropped, it will be replaced with a very very similar platform, basically, it would be a celica. but until toyota has another 2dr sporty car, the celica is here to stay. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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