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post Sep 26, 2007 - 10:12 PM
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Hey guys, i was wondering if all headgaskets are the same? in bore size i mean, im looking into buying a metal head gasket and want to know if i need to specify that my block is bored 20 over (.020). I think im gonna buy an ACL one (the people that make bearings ;p) so can someone be so kind as to telling me what I have to torque the head bolts to? also should 1mm thick be fine or should i get a thicker one?
post Sep 27, 2007 - 6:07 PM
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post Sep 28, 2007 - 8:09 PM
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HG have a slightly larger bore than the cylinders to allow for overboring.

As for how thick you need, that depends on what C:R you want.
Keep in mind if the head and/or block have been machined this will lower your C:R.

The head bolt torque will also depend on what HG you use and what head bolts you use [might as well get studs if you're tearing into it].


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post Oct 3, 2007 - 9:12 AM
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Anyway you can piont me to where I can buy one other than ebay? Thanks:)
post Oct 3, 2007 - 4:22 PM
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most 3S-GTE hae gasket com 88MM that should be good even if you went 60 over the stock bore...
post Oct 4, 2007 - 4:20 PM
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Out of curiousity what are the differences between 5S-FE and 3S-GTE headgaskets. Can they be interchanged (i.e. can you use a 3S-GTE head gasket on a 5S-FE without modification?)?

Anyone have pictures comparing the heads, blocks, gaskets of the two engines?


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post Oct 5, 2007 - 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(WALKER @ Oct 4, 2007 - 5:20 PM) [snapback]601703[/snapback]

Out of curiousity what are the differences between 5S-FE and 3S-GTE headgaskets. Can they be interchanged (i.e. can you use a 3S-GTE head gasket on a 5S-FE without modification?)?

Anyone have pictures comparing the heads, blocks, gaskets of the two engines?

^ no they are not interchangable.

3sgte = 2.0l
5sfe = 2.2l

cylinder diameter is different, so there for the HG has a different hole diameter.


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post Oct 5, 2007 - 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Oct 5, 2007 - 10:15 AM) [snapback]602046[/snapback]

QUOTE(WALKER @ Oct 4, 2007 - 5:20 PM) [snapback]601703[/snapback]

Out of curiousity what are the differences between 5S-FE and 3S-GTE headgaskets. Can they be interchanged (i.e. can you use a 3S-GTE head gasket on a 5S-FE without modification?)?

Anyone have pictures comparing the heads, blocks, gaskets of the two engines?

^ no they are not interchangable.

3sgte = 2.0l
5sfe = 2.2l

cylinder diameter is different, so there for the HG has a different hole diameter.


Well the 3S head can go on the 5S block. The cylinder bore is 86mm (3S-GTE) vs 87.1mm (5S-FE), therefore if the gasket bore is 88mm, I would think it would work on both. Just curious, that is why I would like to see a picture of a 3S head or gasket and a picture of a 5S head or gasket.


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post Oct 5, 2007 - 4:55 PM
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QUOTE(alltracman78 @ Sep 29, 2007 - 1:09 AM) [snapback]599957[/snapback]


As for how thick you need, that depends on what C:R you want.
Keep in mind if the head and/or block have been machined this will lower your C:R.



I thought machining those two would increase C:R. (that's what you must have meant)


QUOTE(WALKER @ Oct 5, 2007 - 5:31 PM) [snapback]602085[/snapback]

QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Oct 5, 2007 - 10:15 AM) [snapback]602046[/snapback]

QUOTE(WALKER @ Oct 4, 2007 - 5:20 PM) [snapback]601703[/snapback]

Out of curiousity what are the differences between 5S-FE and 3S-GTE headgaskets. Can they be interchanged (i.e. can you use a 3S-GTE head gasket on a 5S-FE without modification?)?

Anyone have pictures comparing the heads, blocks, gaskets of the two engines?

^ no they are not interchangable.

3sgte = 2.0l
5sfe = 2.2l

cylinder diameter is different, so there for the HG has a different hole diameter.


Well the 3S head can go on the 5S block. The cylinder bore is 86mm (3S-GTE) vs 87.1mm (5S-FE), therefore if the gasket bore is 88mm, I would think it would work on both. Just curious, that is why I would like to see a picture of a 3S head or gasket and a picture of a 5S head or gasket.


Makes sense for the 3s HG to go on a 5s block.

Pics would be nice, (if only ice with his 5s-gte had some pics of the diff. HG)


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post Dec 18, 2007 - 4:10 AM
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Any headgasket that's interchangable for the 7A-FE ?

Or any know who that sells reinforced ones for this engine?
post Dec 18, 2007 - 6:35 AM
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QUOTE(Turbofun @ Dec 18, 2007 - 4:10 AM) [snapback]623807[/snapback]

Any headgasket that's interchangable for the 7A-FE ?

Or any know who that sells reinforced ones for this engine?

toyota sells a metal headgasket for the 7a.



the 3s and 5s gaskets are not interchangeable because of the water jackets in the gasket dont line up from motor to motor.


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