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 Nov 9, 2007 - 4:42 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%)  |
So, new EPA regulations no longer allow front clips to be imported. It's engine sets only from here on out. Make sure you get everything you need for the swap when you get one
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Nov 9, 2007 - 4:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 5, '05 From LA, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Nov 9, 2007 - 1:42 PM) [snapback]612751[/snapback] So, new EPA regulations no longer allow front clips to be imported. It's engine sets only from here on out. Make sure you get everything you need for the swap when you get one -Doc -Charlie -------------------- 2003 Subaru WRX Wagon
1989 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE - SV25/ST205 hybrid 1988 Camry Alltrac LE - BEAMS swap started |
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Nov 9, 2007 - 4:58 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 14, '06 From MN, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Damn it. I'm getting a civic now!
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Nov 9, 2007 - 4:59 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Wow, Doc you serious? This sucks man. So for us future swappers we are basically screwed? Looks I'm going to have to go the 5sfte route now.
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Nov 9, 2007 - 6:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
thats terrible if its true.
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Nov 9, 2007 - 8:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
QUOTE(99GT @ Nov 9, 2007 - 3:58 PM) [snapback]612764[/snapback] Damn it. I'm getting a civic now! LOL  Why would you do such a thing. I'd rather drive a non modded celica over anything civic any day.
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94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
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Nov 9, 2007 - 8:31 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 5, '03 From South TX. Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
dam!....now i can never make a RHD Celica
 ...Stupid EPA needs to quit focusing on on trivial stuff and focus on real issues...
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Nov 9, 2007 - 9:06 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
Wow All this suckx
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Nov 9, 2007 - 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(phattyduck @ Nov 9, 2007 - 3:53 PM) [snapback]612759[/snapback] Do you have a link to a story or the new regulation? +1 ? -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Nov 9, 2007 - 11:35 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '07 From Skokie, Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
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Nov 10, 2007 - 2:28 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
I haven't seen any info from the EPA but this information comes directly from my friend Mike at Jarco. They are experts in importing so I'm sure he knows what he's talking about.
It's not really a big deal as long as you are dealing with a good importer and you know what questions to ask. We never got front clips even when we could get them. Just print out the list of everything to get and you'll be all set. Jarco is one importer that's extremely good about this... even though you aren't going to get the sheetmetal of the front clip, you're basically going to have everything that you would have if you did! -Doc -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Nov 10, 2007 - 2:55 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 11, '07 From Corona, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
dammit. i hate america. lol
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Nov 10, 2007 - 5:13 AM
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QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Nov 9, 2007 - 1:42 PM) [snapback]612751[/snapback] So, new EPA regulations no longer allow front clips to be imported. It's engine sets only from here on out. Make sure you get everything you need for the swap when you get one -Doc Ah HA! You said FRONT clips! Which means I can still ship over an MR2 3sgte REAR clip! --------------------  |
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Nov 10, 2007 - 4:58 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 13, '02 From Blairstown, New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
QUOTE(MaskedMan @ Nov 10, 2007 - 3:13 AM) [snapback]612925[/snapback] QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Nov 9, 2007 - 1:42 PM) [snapback]612751[/snapback] So, new EPA regulations no longer allow front clips to be imported. It's engine sets only from here on out. Make sure you get everything you need for the swap when you get one -Doc Ah HA! You said FRONT clips! Which means I can still ship over an MR2 3sgte REAR clip! pwn3d!!  If this really is the case, it isn't a huge deal. It will however force people to shop smarter when looking for an engine set and make sure that they have everything they might need for the swap before buying. I bought my 3rd gen as an engine set, and before I bought it I made sure it had EVERYTHING. Sure enough, it had every last part that I needed and then some. I even had the VIN plate, airbox resonator and piping, front axles, and so forth. My word of advice to future swappers - take your time, buy smart, and plan for the worst case scenario ahead of time. 
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Nov 12, 2007 - 2:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Yeah well said. And quite frankly, even if you are missing something, finding the right part isn't a big deal. Heck, we actually had 3SGTEs here in the US. Not as much can be said for some parts on 4EFTE, 4AGE 20v, or 4AGZE engines.
-Doc -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Nov 12, 2007 - 2:26 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
"B. (2) Engine not in Vehicle or Chassis
EPA regulates the entire vehicle, not individual parts, for cars, light trucks, and motorcycles. If an engine is not installed, and is to be used in a car, motorcycle, or light truck, it may be imported as an automotive part. No approval or Customs bond is required by EPA. Importers should be aware, however, that replacement of an engine in a U.S. version vehicle with an engine of a different type or model year which is not currently covered by an EPA certificate or will be covered by an EPA certificate prior to introduction into commerce may violateEPA regulations. To import an engine for use in a car, light truck or motorcycle, the importer must file with U.S. Customs, upon entry, an EPA Form 3520-1 and declare code "W" on that form. For a "heavy" vehicle or "heavy" truck, EPA regulates the engine, whether or not it is installed. EPA considers a vehicle or truck as "heavy" if it has a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 8,500 pounds, or a curb weight of more than 6,000 pounds. To be imported, such an engine must be either excluded, exempted, covered by an EPA certificate of conformity, or imported by an independent commercial importer." either that isn't the up-to-date article or you are wrong. This post has been edited by playr158: Nov 12, 2007 - 2:26 PM |
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