HOW TO LIGHTEN THE CELICA?? Options

[Tigawoods]

race with a quarter tank.
remove the spare tire
remove the back seats and carpet
remove the passenger seat
and you will be running around 2400 lbs in your 95 gt!!

[Defgeph]

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Lets try to actually help this member with some real tips. Personal attacks are not acceptable here.


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[njccmd2002]

do what nascar cars do. Fiberglass stuff.

Fiberglass fenders, carbon hood. all uncesseary interior trim off, hatchback glass/door, get one with cf and plexiglass.

remove all seats...

not much improvement but, could help...

[ILuvMyCelica95]

Does everyone realize this thread is from January?

[playr158]

so whats your point?

*updated*

FYI- most of this will render your car ILLEGAL on the street in most states

a) no interior plastic trim
b) no rear seats, get ltw racing front seats (Recaro, Sparco, Bride)
- B2) remove OEM seat belts, CORRECTLY install 4 point harnesses
c) cut out the spare tire well, replace with flat panel
d) no jack/spare
e) remove door glass/motor/rails
- E2) remove door cards, replace with CF &/or FG panel
f) remove rear side windows, replace w/lexan
g) remove sunroof (30lbs) (replace with ltw composite plug)
h) remove heater/ac unit from under the dash
i) remove sound deadening matterial from the floor
j) F/G hood
- J2) CF hatch
k) LTW battery
L) Fiberglass doors *eeps*
m) remove airbags
n) remove power steering
o) remove AC compressor, AC "radiator" thingy up front
p) remove crash bar (WARNING removal of this item can cause SEVERE damage
q) remove gas tank + replace with racing fuel cell
r) have a Titanium exhaust made
s) LTW lugnuts
t) LTW 16"/17" wheels


FYI- fiberglass fenders/bumpers readily available are pretty much the same weight as OEM pieces

[dabazied]

so whats your point?

*updated*

FYI- most of this will render your car ILLEGAL on the street in most states

a) no interior plastic trim
b) no rear seats, get ltw racing front seats (Recaro, Sparco, Bride)
- B2) remove OEM seat belts, CORRECTLY install 4 point harnesses
c) cut out the spare tire well, replace with flat panel
d) no jack/spare
e) remove door glass/motor/rails
- E2) remove door cards, replace with CF &/or FG panel
f) remove rear side windows, replace w/lexan
g) remove sunroof (30lbs) (replace with ltw composite plug)
h) remove heater/ac unit from under the dash
i) remove sound deadening matterial from the floor
j) F/G hood
- J2) CF hatch
k) LTW battery
L) Fiberglass doors *eeps*
m) remove airbags
n) remove power steering
o) remove AC compressor, AC "radiator" thingy up front
p) remove crash bar (WARNING removal of this item can cause SEVERE damage
q) remove gas tank + replace with racing fuel cell
r) have a Titanium exhaust made
s) LTW lugnuts
t) LTW 16"/17" wheels


FYI- fiberglass fenders/bumpers readily available are pretty much the same weight as OEM pieces

You forgot to add the part about letting rust eat holes out of your exterior n then just throwing vinyl graphics over it so you don't see the holes lol...... but really, yeah, there's tons of stuff you can do and playr158 definitely has the most constructive/organized list.... it all depends on how far you're willing to go n how much street driving you're trying to limit yourself from being able to legally do

[6_GEN]

Do we have the sound deadening tar under the carpet? We should right?probably 35lb's

[playr158]

yes we do have that stuff, i don't think its quite that heavy though.

[dutchboy]

get those 14lb carbon rims, cf hatch and replace glass with lexan. get rid of backseats, carpets. get lightweight seats. put only a couple gallons of gas in instead of a full tank.

What size are those 14lb Carbon rims?

RS Limited (same company as American Racing) has a 15" wheel called Concept Pro that is supposedly 13lbs per wheel(prob costs $1000s less too).

FYI, the Seibon OEM style CF hood is only 12lbs lighter than the stock sto hood, hardly worth $300-$500 in my opinion.

We need to band together and find a manfacturer that will make plastic replicas of our gas tanks that can be mounted in the same spot for convenience. Anybody know how much the gas tank weighs? Estimate or guess on how much a plastic replica might weigh?

[dutchboy]

get those 14lb carbon rims, cf hatch and replace glass with lexan. get rid of backseats, carpets. get lightweight seats. put only a couple gallons of gas in instead of a full tank.

What size are those 14lb Carbon rims?

RS Limited (same company as American Racing) has a 15" wheel called Concept Pro that is supposedly 13lbs per wheel(prob costs $1000s less too).

FYI, the Seibon OEM style CF hood is only 12lbs lighter than the stock sto hood, hardly worth $300-$500 in my opinion.

We need to band together and find a manfacturer that will make plastic replicas of our gas tanks that can be mounted in the same spot for convenience. Anybody know how much the gas tank weighs? Estimate or guess on how much a plastic replica might weigh?

After finally doing some research, it doesn't sound like plastic tanks would be a good idea (mounted underneath anyways). Read that they will melt and dump the gas in a fire

[CAMAricer]

Seibon's CF hood is only 12 pounds lighter than stock? No freakin' way! Really?

I have the CF Invader hood and the difference between the stock and CF is night and day...I threw away the old hood and never actually weighed it to find out how much it was (or my CF hood for that matter), but even without a scale, I can tell the weight difference is a lot more than 12 pounds...

But I don't have the Seibon hood, so maybe they make their CF hoods heavier than ViS?

BTW, I have the Zyclone CF hood too and according to Jeff, it's like only 13 pounds. I can lift it between my thumb and forefinger on one hand...so I think that weight approx by Jeff is on the spot.

Also, when I removed my stock hatch, that thing was heavy like a mother! Needed two hands to carry it. The CF hatch, again, was lite enough for me to lift with a single hand. So it has to be at least 20 pounds heavier.

When I get home, I'm going to weigh my Invader hood and the stock hatch to see how much they actually weigh...then we can get an "official" weight list going.

BTW, I was going to see how lite my Celi could get with all the fiberglass and carbon fiber stuff I have on it...until I realized I had 2 amps and 3 subs in my car, doh!

get those 14lb carbon rims, cf hatch and replace glass with lexan. get rid of backseats, carpets. get lightweight seats. put only a couple gallons of gas in instead of a full tank.

What size are those 14lb Carbon rims?

RS Limited (same company as American Racing) has a 15" wheel called Concept Pro that is supposedly 13lbs per wheel(prob costs $1000s less too).

FYI, the Seibon OEM style CF hood is only 12lbs lighter than the stock sto hood, hardly worth $300-$500 in my opinion.

We need to band together and find a manfacturer that will make plastic replicas of our gas tanks that can be mounted in the same spot for convenience. Anybody know how much the gas tank weighs? Estimate or guess on how much a plastic replica might weigh?

[dutchboy]

Seibon's CF hood is only 12 pounds lighter than stock? No freakin' way! Really?

I have the CF Invader hood and the difference between the stock and CF is night and day...I threw away the old hood and never actually weighed it to find out how much it was (or my CF hood for that matter), but even without a scale, I can tell the weight difference is a lot more than 12 pounds...

But I don't have the Seibon hood, so maybe they make their CF hoods heavier than ViS?

BTW, I have the Zyclone CF hood too and according to Jeff, it's like only 13 pounds. I can lift it between my thumb and forefinger on one hand...so I think that weight approx by Jeff is on the spot.

Also, when I removed my stock hatch, that thing was heavy like a mother! Needed two hands to carry it. The CF hatch, again, was lite enough for me to lift with a single hand. So it has to be at least 20 pounds heavier.

When I get home, I'm going to weigh my Invader hood and the stock hatch to see how much they actually weigh...then we can get an "official" weight list going.

I used a bathroom scale. Note entirely acurate, but usually about .25 to .5 pounds off.

I went back to the stock hood after a while, didn't want to do hood pins, and I do a lot of windy highway driving, so I didn't want the loop that is anchored in fiberglass tearing loose and and causing me to wreck.

I was able to remove the CF hood and put the steelie back on all by myself (yes I've got long arms!). I think the stock hood weighed about 35lbs, and the seibon weighed in at about 23lbs.

[playr158]

get those 14lb carbon rims, cf hatch and replace glass with lexan. get rid of backseats, carpets. get lightweight seats. put only a couple gallons of gas in instead of a full tank.

What size are those 14lb Carbon rims?

RS Limited (same company as American Racing) has a 15" wheel called Concept Pro that is supposedly 13lbs per wheel(prob costs $1000s less too).

FYI, the Seibon OEM style CF hood is only 12lbs lighter than the stock sto hood, hardly worth $300-$500 in my opinion.

We need to band together and find a manfacturer that will make plastic replicas of our gas tanks that can be mounted in the same spot for convenience. Anybody know how much the gas tank weighs? Estimate or guess on how much a plastic replica might weigh?

12lbs is A LOT of weigth to be removed....very worth the $

and you wanted to get a plastic replica tank?! talk about not worth it....

2 words = Fuel cell

[lagos]

All these weight savings amount to MAYBE a 16sec car? Not worth it imho.
Boost it and keep the creature comforts.

[SoundSlut_dotcom]

yea so instead of doing 17.9s we can all do 17.7s

[GriffGirl]

I know a company here that manufactures fiberglass gas tanks for motorcycles. They actually started out using plastic (it doesn't melt, btw, it's a thermoset plastic - not ALL plastic melts!) but switched to fiberglass several years ago because it's higher quality. Anyway, I bet if someone had the right design and the right money, they could custom fab a fiberglass tank for a car. They've been in business for years and years, and are VERY well known and reputable in the motorcycle industry.

[playr158]

All these weight savings amount to MAYBE a 16sec car? Not worth it imho.
Boost it and keep the creature comforts.

newb there is more to racing than straight lines....

removing any weight improves speed, and increases handling.
Rotating weight that is removed is even more significant.
Removing weight that is placed higher in the car (sun roof for example) has large positive effects on handling.

This post has been edited by playr158: Jun 12, 2008 - 10:48 AM

[lagos]

All these weight savings amount to MAYBE a 16sec car? Not worth it imho.
Boost it and keep the creature comforts.

newb there is more to racing than straight lines....

removing any weight improves speed, and increases handling.
Rotating weight that is removed is even more significant.
Removing weight that is placed higher in the car (sun roof for example) has large positive effects on handling.

If you remove your sun roof, your left with a hole in your roof. What are you going to do if it starts raining?
There isn't a single person on this forum that has a race car. Everyone here uses their cars on a daily basis and such drastic weight savings are just not practical and wont amount to all that much.

Throw a turbo kit, v6 or 3s swap on your car, and you'll do better in a straight or curved line. Want better handling? Replace those oem blown shocks with a nice coilover setup. If you do that, youll end up with a faster/better car, then what you would get by gutting your interior.

[playr158]

All these weight savings amount to MAYBE a 16sec car? Not worth it imho.
Boost it and keep the creature comforts.

newb there is more to racing than straight lines....

removing any weight improves speed, and increases handling.
Rotating weight that is removed is even more significant.
Removing weight that is placed higher in the car (sun roof for example) has large positive effects on handling.

If you remove your sun roof, your left with a hole in your roof. What are you going to do if it starts raining?
There isn't a single person on this forum that has a race car. Everyone here uses their cars on a daily basis and such drastic weight savings are just not practical and wont amount to all that much.

Throw a turbo kit, v6 or 3s swap on your car, and you'll do better in a straight or curved line. Want better handling? Replace those oem blown shocks with a nice coilover setup. If you do that, youll end up with a faster/better car, then what you would get by gutting your interior.

boosting isn't always the answer + it can move you out of a class you are currently competing in to one you will get CRUSHED in.

If you remove your sunroof....umm dur umm... replace it with a plug?! zomgz brilliant! its pretty easy
not to mention a sunroof can be removed on a friday night in 20 min. before a saturday morning autocross and you can duct tape a freakin cardboard box in its place and get a decent result. and then replace. It depends on how dedicated you are to what you do.

plus weight removal = free
boost/swap = thousands of dollars + more understeerz

but anyways this is a HOW to lighten a celica...

what does your boost have to do with this topic?!

This post has been edited by playr158: Jun 12, 2008 - 11:13 AM

[lagos]

Like i said.. there isn't a single person on here that has a race car.
Most people use their cars as daily drivers and such drastic weight savings are just not practical for them (i know they are for you, but im talking about the rest of the people posting).

And there is no way Im duct taping anything to my car.