Opinions, 5sfte over 3sgte Options

[supershannon77]

Where is Manny he saw my bill from the shop by me not saying that all shops are like that..but the bill was really really high for getting back a blown motor(this was my first car) It could have been the engine was tired...I dont wanna put all shops down I just dont thinks its good to no what goes on when a car gets a turbo so if something goes wrong they have a lil background. I no its like lagos mostly talkin but I somehow put myself in the convo....

Anyway for the first post i have the 3s and the 5s the 3s has more potential for more power when the 5s is pretty much maxed out...it depends on ur goals imo...but 3s is meant to be turboed so its mostly more reliable not bulletproof but more reliable for more boost.

[lagos]

never ment to be an arguement, you are one of the smarter members here and have helped a lot of us along the way.

If you really feel that way, then at least consider this advice....

Bolting on a ct26 and connecting a few oil/coolant lines is actually REALLY simple. Do some basic research on what you need to buy, and listen to Manny when he yells at you for buying cheap oil lines. You can do the whole install in a weekend with a few buddies.
Then take the money you saved from doing it yourself and invested in an AEM EMS and have someone who is AEM certified tune the car for you.
You will have a far better setup, for the same (or less) then what you're going to spend at that shop, and you'll get to learn something.
Then when future generations of people come here to learn how to turbo their car, you will be the one able to guide them along their path.

[_mikeE]

Okay, i read the first couple posts and i gave up reading haha but basically the 5S motor was not built with turbo whereas the 3sgte was professionally built and designed for turbo, and yes the ecu to. Also, you're gona be spending about 2g gathering the parts to turbo your 5s motor and it'd probably be wise to rebuild it since it's kinda old. Plus you'll only avg pulling off 220hp approx, you can only pull off the 300hp mark is you swap to a larger turbine such as the ct27, and tweak like mad. And to the person who started this thread...you wanted to get a stroker kit for your 5s motor? it's already 2.2 ltr...eh? Maybe i'm just mis-interpreting things.
Basically, the 3s motor has more potential for higher power and would be a bit easier to work with and less km's to but all u have to do really is rebuild the head on your 5s motor.

[Legit94GT]

Wow this got carried way off track and now is back to what started this thread...

The thing is i know cars, i have done plenty of work on cars.... I HATE working on cars is the thing, right now i dont have the space or the right equipment to do a swap, and it seems like i never have the right tool for the job to be don properly.

I want to go to a shop so i dont have spend my weekend getting pissed off because i just stripped the last bolt on the oil pan, my free time is way to valueable to me to spend it pissed off, which is usually where i end up after working on cars.

I am not looking for a massive 300+ car, i just want my celica to be much fater than it is, being at 200-220 or around there would be just fine with me:) My car may be fairly old 94, but only has 85xxx miles on it, compared to most 3s that have ANYWHERE from 30-80xxx miles on it, so that is maybe only a few years, and most 3s are 2nd gens so they would actually be older than my motor, and you dont know who or how it was driven before you got it, i bought mine fomr old people who babied it:)

I see that doing a turbo doesnt look all that hard in reality and me and my dad could knock it out in a weekend, but i would much rather pay to have someone else do it... any takers? lol, you just got to fly to oregon;)
And i might still do that, now that my shop is open i can FINALLY talk to them about price and componets...

As far as EMS goes i dont know anything about that, the only image i have is the laptop in paul walkers car in Fast and the Furious... Can someone explain just exactlly what having an EMS would be? I mean i got nothing like really, do i have to have a computer with me in the car at all times to monitor everything or is it just for tuning when i need to??? does buying a more expensive EMS make a difference or are they all basically the same?

This is the shop i am currently talking to about all this http://www.rrevstore.com/catalog/

Sorry for the novel