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post May 13, 2008 - 11:23 PM
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i love how dan beats down noobs biggrin.gif


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post May 13, 2008 - 11:43 PM
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3sgte power goal is roughly ~500whp pump


Dan, I know I almost ALWAYS give you hard time...and I really don't mean anything bad by it, but these kinds of threads have been beaten to death. If its going to be a "anything is possible" kind of discussion, then lets just go all out and shoot for 1,000hp 3sgte.


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post May 14, 2008 - 12:40 AM
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QUOTE (lagos @ May 14, 2008 - 12:43 AM) *
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3sgte power goal is roughly ~500whp pump


Dan, I know I almost ALWAYS give you hard time...and I really don't mean anything bad by it, but these kinds of threads have been beaten to death. If its going to be a "anything is possible" kind of discussion, then lets just go all out and shoot for 1,000hp 3sgte.



Hasnt the 1khp 3sgte been done? (i lie its like 7xx in a supra)


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post May 14, 2008 - 3:01 AM
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Tom's supra!
post May 14, 2008 - 7:54 AM
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QUOTE (lagos @ May 14, 2008 - 12:43 AM) *
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3sgte power goal is roughly ~500whp pump


Dan, I know I almost ALWAYS give you hard time...and I really don't mean anything bad by it, but these kinds of threads have been beaten to death. If its going to be a "anything is possible" kind of discussion, then lets just go all out and shoot for 1,000hp 3sgte.


haha they have but its fun every once in awhile. Not anything is possible its very money limited laugh.gif
but come on i said 500 on pump! I want high 600s on race gas and a 250 shot of nitrous with an electric supercharger...should make it to the 900s!!!!!!!

although i was serious discussion about the size of the IS300 rear sub vs the st205 rear sub. That could be pretty cost effective and close to fit.

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you should find a wrecked IS300 to get the rear end cheap and just try it already! biggrin.gif


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post May 14, 2008 - 12:30 PM
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The only cost effective way to have a 500hp rwd celica would be to buy a Supra and throw some headlights on it. smile.gif


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post May 14, 2008 - 12:39 PM
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QUOTE (lagos @ May 14, 2008 - 1:30 PM) *
The only cost effective way to have a 500hp rwd celica would be to buy a Supra and throw some headlights on it. smile.gif


Like that hasnt been tried b4... lol my bad other way around. wink.gif biggrin.gif

dude, get some numbers, crunch them...see if its AT all feasible. if it is.. Do it.

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post May 14, 2008 - 2:29 PM
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its possible, but decide if you want to spend the money and try it. you could very well end up with a fun RWD celica


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post May 14, 2008 - 6:02 PM
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if you do do it. take lots of pics and make a how to. cuz that would be something i would be interested in. best of luck bro.
post May 14, 2008 - 6:24 PM
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QUOTE (lagos @ May 14, 2008 - 1:30 PM) *
The only cost effective way to have a 500hp rwd celica would be to buy a Supra and throw some headlights on it. smile.gif


supras are heavy. plus i like the curren look better smile.gif
post May 14, 2008 - 6:45 PM
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... edit : seen answer to my question already. lol

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post May 14, 2008 - 6:59 PM
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post May 15, 2008 - 9:12 AM
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Our cars do seem to have an unusual amount of space from radiator to firewall, gotta keep the dream alive!


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post May 15, 2008 - 9:39 AM
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QUOTE (crandsberry @ May 15, 2008 - 10:12 AM) *
Our cars do seem to have an unusual amount of space from radiator to firewall, gotta keep the dream alive!


its not the space of the engine bay i'm concerned with, there is plenty of that. Its the actual room for the transmission (goes between the driver and the passenger and through the firewall.
post May 16, 2008 - 12:35 AM
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QUOTE (playr158 @ May 14, 2008 - 7:54 AM) *
i said 500 on pump!


Unless by pump gas you mean E85, you are not going to make it on a 3sgte. To my knowledge, its never been done. I have seen 400whp with superior intercooling and water injection on traditional pump gas.

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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post May 16, 2008 - 5:08 AM
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what i dont get is why you hacked the crap outta a celica for a 'road course' purpose car

why not just build your own frame, then stick your own lite weight body panels on it, find whatever engine makes the most power that weights the least and rig up your rwd system.

for this custom of a car, exactly what class are you planning on running this car in? it would almost need to go into some form of prototype class.

why not specify your goals so everyone can help you better.

the v8 was mentioned because this is another worthless thread. i cannot see this rwd being successfully done to 100% track standards without breaking or being off to some degree. seems like this is a pissing contest for the craziest modded car.

3s engine 2000

rear end from lexus 1000

trans 500

thats 3500

for that you can get your own race ready say... 289-302 engine pushing 400 hp with trans and custom trans back setup to whatever specs you would like. yea it will weigh more, and be bigger, but your putting this in a celica, not an f1 car or a go cart.


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post May 16, 2008 - 9:36 AM
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QUOTE (jason @ May 16, 2008 - 6:08 AM) *
what i dont get is why you hacked the crap outta a celica for a 'road course' purpose car

why not just build your own frame, then stick your own lite weight body panels on it, find whatever engine makes the most power that weights the least and rig up your rwd system.

for this custom of a car, exactly what class are you planning on running this car in? it would almost need to go into some form of prototype class.

why not specify your goals so everyone can help you better.

the v8 was mentioned because this is another worthless thread. i cannot see this rwd being successfully done to 100% track standards without breaking or being off to some degree. seems like this is a pissing contest for the craziest modded car.

3s engine 2000

rear end from lexus 1000

trans 500

thats 3500

for that you can get your own race ready say... 289-302 engine pushing 400 hp with trans and custom trans back setup to whatever specs you would like. yea it will weigh more, and be bigger, but your putting this in a celica, not an f1 car or a go cart.


hack the crap out of? so far all i have are OEM parts from the 6th gen celicas? Not terribly custom laugh.gif

building a complete car laugh.gif do you even know whats required for that? or where it would even but you in classes? nobody does that except ooooo factory prototype teams.

Plan to compete in the same class as the BMW 3 series MOD car i work on.
How can you not see rwd being done? Its been done many a time before just not on our cars all too often.

and if its worthless don't post? i dunno

as well as HP is not a major #1 factor. you don't have to have a billion and one hp, power curves, gearing, weight, aerodynamics, and suspension all play integral parts in making a fast car. With massive amounts of HP you have to be able to effectively put it to the ground otherwise you are only half decent in the straight aways and then you'll watch 150hp cars kick your butt in the corners

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post May 16, 2008 - 10:56 AM
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i forgot, dan is the best driver, car builder, everything in the world which is why he hangs out on 6gc

post pics when your rwd track car is finished

the suprica used all oem parts... therefore it wasnt all hacked up by your logic


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post May 16, 2008 - 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (jason @ May 16, 2008 - 11:56 AM) *
i forgot, dan is the best driver, car builder, everything in the world which is why he hangs out on 6gc

post pics when your rwd track car is finished

the suprica used all oem parts... therefore it wasnt all hacked up by your logic


never said i was the best driver rolleyes.gif just stated there is more to it than HP.

but suprica was far from all OEM parts laugh.gif that entire front was made up of aftermarket pieces sans headlight and hood. Should get facts straight wink.gif

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