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post Sep 9, 2008 - 5:02 AM
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QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Sep 9, 2008 - 10:09 AM) *
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What's the difference between Group A and Type A?


Group A is the homologation versions of the ST185's and ST205's needed for racing in WRC and a few australian events.

The 150 Group A Rallye ST185 were delivered into Australia, (called Carlos Sainz in eu and RC in japan) they had the water to air intercoolers (insted of air to air like the poverty pack ST185 GT-Fours), taller ratio gearbox's with double synchros, the Group A front bar, venting bonnet (insted of bonnet scoop like the poverty pack 185), different ecu and about 15kw more power then the pov 185. Group A Rallyes in australia only came in in 1991 and are each individually badged with their number out of the 150 and carlos sainz signature on it. LSD rear diff.


the type A is a jdm only luxury spec 185, had all the options possible and as far as im aware only came out in charcoal grey/black.

engine and gearbox/performance wise they are the same as any other jdm st185.

They were equipped with leather interior, the system 10 stereo, crusie control, climate control air con, electric seats w. lumbar support, air bag, retractable mirrors, sunroof, there is prob a few options i have missed out but you get the point. They were only made in 1990 i believe

The Group A Rallye ST205 was only delivered in 1994, there was only 77 of them each with a plaque and a number (mine is 61), 17 had a moonroof (mine is one of those), there was only really 1 option and that was te moonroof. Specs are:

antilag, water injection, leather interior, intercooler spray bar, 5mm bigger throttle body then the 185, wta intercooler, 180kw in aussie trim (about 20kw more then the 185) weights about 70kg less then the group a 185. tripple synchros in gearbox with better ratios, LSD centre and rear diff, air con, bonnet spoiler, headlight washers. The rest of the stuff you all prob know about.

note that the antilag, water injection are in place but not connected as the stock ecu cant control them.
the intercooler spray bar is controlled with a button like the headlight washers.


bowdown.gif you are the master, yeh that "e" has made me wonder as well
post Sep 9, 2008 - 7:12 AM
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thanks guys, ive prop missed some info but thats what i could think of at the time.

rallye is french for rally i believe, im pretty sure thats how its written when it related to wrc, cars, courses etc.

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post Sep 9, 2008 - 7:33 AM
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Thanks Cuts.
post Sep 9, 2008 - 10:26 AM
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Cuts - are the ST205 Group A Rallye transmission gear ratios different from a regular ST205 E154F transmission?
I'm just curious & can't find any specs anywhere. Thanks in advance for any help smile.gif


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post Sep 10, 2008 - 1:23 AM
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theres 1 red GT4 round my area 1 mint as SS-III (mr 'BEAMS' ) in napier, 2 red SS-II (its weird there ars 3 red SS-II in one city tongue.gif) all the rest are SS-I biggrin.gif


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post Sep 10, 2008 - 2:18 AM
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ripley all 205's sold to the public had the e154f box's.
the rally box's are obviously heaps different.

rusty is the red 205 stu's?

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post Sep 10, 2008 - 2:42 PM
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QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Sep 10, 2008 - 2:18 AM) *
ripley all 205's sold to the public had the e154f box's.
the rally box's are obviously heaps different.


cool. I just didn't know if the e154f box in a regular ST205 was any different to the box in a homologated WRC version like what you have Cuts - since those had anti-lag on the manifold (not hooked up) sprayer bar for the heat exchanger & other little differences from just an unnumbered regular ST205 edition.


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post Sep 10, 2008 - 3:16 PM
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ohgodmarryme or something LOL

I love stuff like this. I can in basically no way shape or form make any kind of valuable contribution to this thread other than to say I sure do appreciate all of you imparting your knowledge!


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post Sep 11, 2008 - 3:40 AM
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rusty is the red 205 stu's?

I don't know, I dont see that car too often plus I can never catch to to him laugh.gif


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