will a 5sfe from a 5th gen work in my 6th gen celica?? Options

[Decalsondemand]

hi i rescent purchased a 6th gen cheap due to a motor knock and was wondering if the 2.2 in my 5th gen is pretty much the same motor or would i have to do some part swapping to make it work? also my 5th gen has an auto tranny and i want to stick with the 5 speed in my 6th gen would i have to do much to make that work im pretty new to the celica scene so any help would be appreciated.....thanks

[DEATH]

It'll work but there are a few differences. The 6GC will have a knock sensor and the 5GC won't but IDK if the boss is drilled and tapped for it. The tranny will work fine.

[Decalsondemand]

thanks where is the knock sensor located? could i use the ecu from my g5 to eliminate the knock sensor? or will that cause more problems?

[Decalsondemand]

will i need to get a pilot bearing??

[bccentaur3]

I really think you can just swap in the 5s and run your factory 5s ecu. You will just no have knock. I am unsure if it will throw a code or no though. Unless you want to run the 90-93 5s ecu.

[Decalsondemand]

ok cool this is my first attempt at changing a motor hope im not in over my head!!! its a 500 dollar car and i drove it home it is just knocking badly i will post some pics of the car if anyone is interested in seeing it

[DEATH]

I think the car will maybe run a bit wrong cause surely the ECU uses the knock signal to control on the fly timing to a degree [Otherwise why have the damn thing really]. I saw pics of one just today on here - I'll get the pic BRB.

[bccentaur3]

Thats a hell of a deal. any rust? 500 bucks... wow. Why not invest in a better motor? Ma What are your plans? maybe a 97-01 camry 5s. What are your plans for the car? Just a DD?

I think the car will maybe run a bit wrong cause surely the ECU uses the knock signal to control on the fly timing to a degree [Otherwise why have the damn thing really]. I saw pics of one just today on here - I'll get the pic BRB.

If thats the case then get the right ecu for the 5th gen 5s motor.

[DEATH]

Or add the knock sensor if the block is already tapped - I know the boss is there from the casting.
Here's the pic:

See it under the #3 Cyl? You normally can't see it this well cause it's up under the Intake manifold on the back of the engine.

[gt_driFFter]

What part of ohio are you in? I have a camry 5sfe with ~80k miles you can have for $100. I was getting ready to put it on craigslist for more, but of course I have to give you the 6gc.net discount!

[DEATH]

Damn that's a deal and it'll have the knock sensor boss drilled for sure.

[Decalsondemand]

actually i just looked on my 92 celica gt and it already has the sensor in it everything looks identical to the 94 im going to post some pics tonight

im about 20 minutes from warren ohio can i hear this motor run?? id be willing to swap my whole 5th gen celica for a good solid running motor thats ready to roll

[_Jim_]

There are actually a few more differences than just lack of knock sensor (because I believe 93's have knock sensors). When Shannon (supershannon77) blew up her motor in her 5th gen she swapped in a 5s out of a 1999. We had to remove all the 5th gen timing stuff, electronics, etc. off the the old motor and reinstall a lot of it onto the 6th gen motor. I dont know to much about it because we had a shop do it, and had our good friend Jeremy walk the shop through it. So the answer is yes, you can use a 5th gen 5sfe......but its a bit of work. Basically what I got from it, everything that is on your 6th gen 5sfe, swap over to the 5th gen 5sfe. You are going to use your 6th gen harness and ECU etc. For what it is worth, I wouldn't bother with the 5th gen motor for a few reasons:

1. Its older
2. Odds are higher mileage
3. Must swap over current 6th gen parts to make it run
4. Not much of a savings over buying a 1994-1999 5sfe
5. (for what it is worth, since its coming out anyway...anything from a 1998-1999 would be your best best...factory metal headgasket, and usually the lowest mileage)

[DEATH]

Cool - I had forgotten where I learned this stuff from. Glad you posted up Jim

[Decalsondemand]

hmmmmm i will have to shop around and price some the 100 dollar motor is sounding good right now how do i post pics on here?