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 Nov 16, 2008 - 6:33 PM
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hi guys i have a 5sfte celica i had to replace my clutch out due to the more power from the turbo so i get the car done a start it up and it wont go into gear when first staring and when it does i let off the brake and the car pulls like the clutch isnt fully disengaging i tried bleeding the slave cylinder thinking air was in the system but still has the problem.
i have installed f1 racing clutch stage 2 fidanza lightweight flywheel new throwout bearing bleed slave cylinder put 40w gear oil in transmission adjusted clutch pedal free play |
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Nov 16, 2008 - 8:33 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 10, '07 From Sunrise Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
possibly clutch master or slave cylinder is binding... i had the same problem, replaced both and now its fine. if that still doesnt work, replace lines, there might be a leak. good luck
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Nov 16, 2008 - 9:01 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 2, '05 From delaware Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (bslik @ Nov 16, 2008 - 8:33 PM)  possibly clutch master or slave cylinder is binding... i had the same problem, replaced both and now its fine. if that still doesnt work, replace lines, there might be a leak. good luck chechked the slave cylinder everything checked out thanks for input but problem continues |
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Nov 16, 2008 - 9:06 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 12, '07 From Lancaster, Pa Currently Offline Reputation: 35 (100%) |
the clutch could be set in the transmission wrong too.
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Nov 16, 2008 - 10:05 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 2, '05 From delaware Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (garin @ Nov 16, 2008 - 9:06 PM) the clutch could be set in the transmission wrong too. when i installed the clutch i checked it to see if it was flush and i checked it with the installation tool and the tool fit in with no problem 3 times and i pulled the boot of the fork and the disk looks center and the pressure plate fingers seem fine |
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Nov 16, 2008 - 10:14 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
You didn't put the clutch disc in backwards did you?
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Nov 17, 2008 - 7:37 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 2, '05 From delaware Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Nov 16, 2008 - 10:14 PM) You didn't put the clutch disc in backwards did you? no its in there right |
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Nov 17, 2008 - 7:47 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 15, '02 From Tasmania(Australia) Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I had this problem also.
i made a silver steel slave cylinder push rod, got a braided clutch line, and reco'd the slave and master cylinders. but im of the opinion the thing that fixed it for me is the pivot ball. with gtfours (and im assuming 5s too) the clutch fork is cast, and the pivot ball is steel, now over time these 2 wear and effectivly the pivot point moves further from the clutch plate, this gives you less travel. unfortunatly it means pulling the gearbox off (and in the case of gtfours engine out) and put a 1mm shim under the pivot ball, and i got a new clutch fork, a better way would have been to get a new OE pivot ball but i didnt have the few week waiting time to get one ex japan so i used a shim and cleaned it up. -------------------- ST205 Group A Rallye GT-Four, #61 of 77............600hp GT3582r
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Nov 17, 2008 - 7:50 AM
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QUOTE (1994toyotaracer @ Nov 16, 2008 - 6:33 PM) hi guys i have a 5sfte celica i had to replace my clutch out due to the more power from the turbo so i get the car done a start it up and it wont go into gear when first staring and when it does i let off the brake and the car pulls like the clutch isnt fully disengaging i tried bleeding the slave cylinder thinking air was in the system but still has the problem. i have installed f1 racing clutch stage 2 fidanza lightweight flywheel new throwout bearing bleed slave cylinder put 40w gear oil in transmission adjusted clutch pedal free play the tranny uses 75-90 gear oil, not 40W. if the clutch isnt disengaging, and the slave is working, the problem is prolly the clutch itself. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Nov 17, 2008 - 9:22 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 2, '05 From delaware Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 17, 2008 - 8:50 AM) QUOTE (1994toyotaracer @ Nov 16, 2008 - 6:33 PM) hi guys i have a 5sfte celica i had to replace my clutch out due to the more power from the turbo so i get the car done a start it up and it wont go into gear when first staring and when it does i let off the brake and the car pulls like the clutch isnt fully disengaging i tried bleeding the slave cylinder thinking air was in the system but still has the problem. i have installed f1 racing clutch stage 2 fidanza lightweight flywheel new throwout bearing bleed slave cylinder put 40w gear oil in transmission adjusted clutch pedal free play the tranny uses 75-90 gear oil, not 40W. if the clutch isnt disengaging, and the slave is working, the problem is prolly the clutch itself. do you think the gear oil would have something to do with it not shifting into gear it works fine when selecting gears when the car isnt running but when i start it it wont go into gear due to the input shaft turning and on the slave cylinder i checked for possible leaks and didnt find any is there any other checks to perform |
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Nov 17, 2008 - 10:00 AM
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
QUOTE (1994toyotaracer @ Nov 17, 2008 - 9:22 AM) QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 17, 2008 - 8:50 AM) QUOTE (1994toyotaracer @ Nov 16, 2008 - 6:33 PM) hi guys i have a 5sfte celica i had to replace my clutch out due to the more power from the turbo so i get the car done a start it up and it wont go into gear when first staring and when it does i let off the brake and the car pulls like the clutch isnt fully disengaging i tried bleeding the slave cylinder thinking air was in the system but still has the problem. i have installed f1 racing clutch stage 2 fidanza lightweight flywheel new throwout bearing bleed slave cylinder put 40w gear oil in transmission adjusted clutch pedal free play the tranny uses 75-90 gear oil, not 40W. if the clutch isnt disengaging, and the slave is working, the problem is prolly the clutch itself. do you think the gear oil would have something to do with it not shifting into gear it works fine when selecting gears when the car isnt running but when i start it it wont go into gear due to the input shaft turning and on the slave cylinder i checked for possible leaks and didnt find any is there any other checks to perform you need to make sure the slave is actually working. have someone step on the clutch pedal, while you verify that the slave cylinder rod is actually moving the clutch fork. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Nov 17, 2008 - 10:27 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 2, '05 From delaware Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 17, 2008 - 11:00 AM) QUOTE (1994toyotaracer @ Nov 17, 2008 - 9:22 AM) QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 17, 2008 - 8:50 AM) QUOTE (1994toyotaracer @ Nov 16, 2008 - 6:33 PM) hi guys i have a 5sfte celica i had to replace my clutch out due to the more power from the turbo so i get the car done a start it up and it wont go into gear when first staring and when it does i let off the brake and the car pulls like the clutch isnt fully disengaging i tried bleeding the slave cylinder thinking air was in the system but still has the problem. i have installed f1 racing clutch stage 2 fidanza lightweight flywheel new throwout bearing bleed slave cylinder put 40w gear oil in transmission adjusted clutch pedal free play the tranny uses 75-90 gear oil, not 40W. if the clutch isnt disengaging, and the slave is working, the problem is prolly the clutch itself. do you think the gear oil would have something to do with it not shifting into gear it works fine when selecting gears when the car isnt running but when i start it it wont go into gear due to the input shaft turning and on the slave cylinder i checked for possible leaks and didnt find any is there any other checks to perform you need to make sure the slave is actually working. have someone step on the clutch pedal, while you verify that the slave cylinder rod is actually moving the clutch fork. yeah its working i had my dad press the clutch pedal in an out several times and i tested for a leak but fully compressing the clutch and jamming a prybar between the pedal and the seat keeping the slave cylinder out to see if it would leak and after 20 mins it didnt move |
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Nov 17, 2008 - 10:34 AM
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
QUOTE (1994toyotaracer @ Nov 17, 2008 - 10:27 AM) QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 17, 2008 - 11:00 AM) QUOTE (1994toyotaracer @ Nov 17, 2008 - 9:22 AM) QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 17, 2008 - 8:50 AM) QUOTE (1994toyotaracer @ Nov 16, 2008 - 6:33 PM) hi guys i have a 5sfte celica i had to replace my clutch out due to the more power from the turbo so i get the car done a start it up and it wont go into gear when first staring and when it does i let off the brake and the car pulls like the clutch isnt fully disengaging i tried bleeding the slave cylinder thinking air was in the system but still has the problem. i have installed f1 racing clutch stage 2 fidanza lightweight flywheel new throwout bearing bleed slave cylinder put 40w gear oil in transmission adjusted clutch pedal free play the tranny uses 75-90 gear oil, not 40W. if the clutch isnt disengaging, and the slave is working, the problem is prolly the clutch itself. do you think the gear oil would have something to do with it not shifting into gear it works fine when selecting gears when the car isnt running but when i start it it wont go into gear due to the input shaft turning and on the slave cylinder i checked for possible leaks and didnt find any is there any other checks to perform you need to make sure the slave is actually working. have someone step on the clutch pedal, while you verify that the slave cylinder rod is actually moving the clutch fork. yeah its working i had my dad press the clutch pedal in an out several times and i tested for a leak but fully compressing the clutch and jamming a prybar between the pedal and the seat keeping the slave cylinder out to see if it would leak and after 20 mins it didnt move then you prolly installed the clutch disk backward, or installed the TOB wrong. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Nov 17, 2008 - 10:43 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 2, '05 From delaware Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 17, 2008 - 11:34 AM) QUOTE (1994toyotaracer @ Nov 17, 2008 - 10:27 AM) QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 17, 2008 - 11:00 AM) QUOTE (1994toyotaracer @ Nov 17, 2008 - 9:22 AM) QUOTE (presure2 @ Nov 17, 2008 - 8:50 AM) QUOTE (1994toyotaracer @ Nov 16, 2008 - 6:33 PM) hi guys i have a 5sfte celica i had to replace my clutch out due to the more power from the turbo so i get the car done a start it up and it wont go into gear when first staring and when it does i let off the brake and the car pulls like the clutch isnt fully disengaging i tried bleeding the slave cylinder thinking air was in the system but still has the problem. i have installed f1 racing clutch stage 2 fidanza lightweight flywheel new throwout bearing bleed slave cylinder put 40w gear oil in transmission adjusted clutch pedal free play the tranny uses 75-90 gear oil, not 40W. if the clutch isnt disengaging, and the slave is working, the problem is prolly the clutch itself. do you think the gear oil would have something to do with it not shifting into gear it works fine when selecting gears when the car isnt running but when i start it it wont go into gear due to the input shaft turning and on the slave cylinder i checked for possible leaks and didnt find any is there any other checks to perform you need to make sure the slave is actually working. have someone step on the clutch pedal, while you verify that the slave cylinder rod is actually moving the clutch fork. yeah its working i had my dad press the clutch pedal in an out several times and i tested for a leak but fully compressing the clutch and jamming a prybar between the pedal and the seat keeping the slave cylinder out to see if it would leak and after 20 mins it didnt move then you prolly installed the clutch disk backward, or installed the TOB wrong. clutch was labeled flywheel side and throwout bearing just sits on with clips to fork |
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Nov 17, 2008 - 12:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 2, '05 From delaware Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
new info
i can put it in gear when the car is off and start it car sounds like its hard to turn over meaning that its turning the input shaft when starting i can drive threw the gears but there is alot of resistance on the shifter and it sometimes wont go into gear unless i shut the car off and put it in gear then restart it |
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Nov 17, 2008 - 1:41 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 7, '07 From Portland, Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 67 (96%) |
It's definitely the clutch then. Maybe you got a defective part, but it definitely sounds like it's the clutch.
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