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post Jan 12, 2009 - 2:51 AM
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So, many of us from time to time have removed the needles to our gauges for various reasons, end up setting them back at the wrong place, and may never even notice it. So I took my spare gauge cluster and found out the most accurate way of setting the needles. I took a tone generator and found frequencies that correspond to various speeds on the gauges and made 1 minute recordings of these frequencies for you. READ AND UNDERSTAND WHOLE HOW TO BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANYTHING


1st, find a reliable source of 12V, may be your car battery or an old AC adapter. Find the positive and negative wires on the AC adapter, if used. My particular adapter had a black wire/white stripe for its positive wire.

Connect the positive lead to the "IG+" terminal behind the speedo, its the bottom left screw. Connect the negative lead to the "E" terminal, the bottom right screw behind your speedo. (black wires in the pic)


2nd, find a way to get an audio signal to bare wires, could be a cut pair of head phones, or just the speaker out from your amp. Either way, you take the one lead from your audio signal and connect it to the "E" terminal behind your tach, it is the bottom screw. Then you take the other audio lead and connect it to the "SI" terminal behind the speedo, the top left screw.
(refer to pic above, audio signal is the larger clear wire)

NOTE: the signal must be pretty loud, so just a plain laptop may not work, i suggest using an amp, or speaker lead from your head unit.



You are now set up to calibrate your speedometer. You are only missing the audio signal!
Turn down your audio source completely, and prepare to play a test tone provided at the end of this how to.
Attach your needle loosely to the gauge, play the tone and slowly turn the volume up until you see the needle move and stay steady.
Start the tone over. Remove the needle, realign it to the speed corresponding to the tone being played. You only have 1 minute.
Turn the tone off, and back on, verify the needle goes to the same speed. Play the other tones and verify they line up correctly.
Speed may be 1-2 MPH off due to internal/mechanical resistances, but the tones themselves are very reliable.
If the speedo does not move when playing a higher speed, turn up the volume, its less sensitive the higher the speed.
150 MPH point will need a bit of "help" to get it into the the right half of the gauge due to the way the magnetic gauge works.





Okay, now your speedometer is calibrated, you need to set up to calibrate your tach, but don't worry, you only need to move one wire! tongue.gif
Disconnect your audio source from the "SI" terminal, and connect it to the "IG-" terminal behind your tach, it is the top screw.




You are now set up to calibrate your tach.
Attach your needle loosely to the gauge, play the tone and slowly turn the volume up until you see the needle move and stay steady.
Start the tone over. Remove the needle, realign it to the RPMs corresponding to the tone being played. You only have 1 minute.
Turn the tone off, and back on, verify the needle goes to the same RPM. Play the other tones and verify they line up correctly.
Speed may be 25-50RPM off due to internal/mechanical resistances, but the tones themselves are very reliable.
If the Tach does not move when playing a higher speed, turn up the volume, its less sensitive the higher the speed.


You have now finished calibrating your gauges!

20MPH Test Tone
35MPH Test Tone
70MPH Test Tone
150MPH Test Tone

1000RPM Test Tone
3000RPM Test Tone
5000RPM Test Tone

EDIT: Email me for test tones. sallen(at)oscenter(dotcom) [nospam]
I moved and can no longer host files due to no high speed internet access.


Disclaimer: I am in no way responsible if you kill your gauges somehow. I hooked up my power backwards long enough to get smoke, but it all works still.
Easy way to tell if your power is hooked up right, your fuel gauge will gown down if power is hooked up correctly, and up if reversed. Toyota has some
pretty hardcore gauges lol

This post has been edited by stephen_lee: Sep 17, 2009 - 12:14 PM


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post Jan 12, 2009 - 4:43 AM
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I cannot confirm myself if this is a reliable way of calibrating or even accurate.


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post Jan 12, 2009 - 7:10 AM
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If this really works, it is a better way than driving with the speedometer in your lap and driving at the same time, while trying to place the needles! tongue.gif (Which I did)
post Jan 12, 2009 - 12:14 PM
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If this works it deserves a sticky. Not driving and trying to set the needles and crashing is always good.

This post has been edited by bmj67: Jan 12, 2009 - 12:15 PM
post Jan 12, 2009 - 12:23 PM
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I know who is going to help me rewire my speedo LOL - nice write up tongue.gif


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post Jan 12, 2009 - 12:27 PM
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Everyone from Texas knows this guys an electrical madman! Nice write up X2.


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post Jan 12, 2009 - 12:45 PM
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QUOTE (trdproven @ Jan 12, 2009 - 5:43 AM) *
I cannot confirm myself if this is a reliable way of calibrating or even accurate.


Reliable and accurate, it is perfectly simulating the signal from your speed sensors.
The cam position sensor, and speed sensor both send out the signal in forms of sine waves
Sine waves are the same format sound is transferred through wires as.
If anything, this will give the gauges a more pure signal to work with.

I was able to get the same reading tens of times with these recordings.


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"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH

1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED
1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White
1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810
1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD
post Jan 12, 2009 - 1:28 PM
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Wow... Man, I was wondering where you went last night when we were talking. Now I see! I might just go ahead and test this out on my speedometer just to g ahead and make sure everything works and is close, then go ahead and finish up the work with my gauges that I started last night. Another vote for sticky-ing this! Much safer than driving and trying to fix your needles.


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post Jan 12, 2009 - 4:05 PM
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Brilliant.


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post Jan 12, 2009 - 5:45 PM
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Can do Signals in KM/h ? biggrin.gif

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post Jan 12, 2009 - 5:48 PM
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QUOTE (WWSideWinder @ Jan 12, 2009 - 6:45 PM) *
Can do Signals in KM/h ? biggrin.gif

By the way woot.gif woot.gif owned.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif


Donate a virgin cluster tongue.gif lol jk. I'll see what i can do


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"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH

1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED
1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White
1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810
1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD
post Jan 12, 2009 - 8:22 PM
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stephen, if that is accurate with the sensors, which I understand your explanation then I say good info. Does your speedo match up when you drive or does it seem under or lower?


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post Jan 12, 2009 - 10:19 PM
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i used a gauge cluster that has never had the needles removed, and they all matched up w/ the same speed before & after i removed the needles to test that it can be aligned properly w/ this method.


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"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH

1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED
1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White
1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810
1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD
post Jan 13, 2009 - 12:30 PM
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Impressive sh*t - have they stickied this yet?


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EXT: WRC/TRD/404
QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 25, 2010 - 10:13 AM) *
Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them.
Slow down Paul Walker.

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post Jan 13, 2009 - 1:36 PM
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Make sticky - PLEASE biggrin.gif


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post Jan 13, 2009 - 2:47 PM
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Uploading KMH/KPH tones now.


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"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH

1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED
1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White
1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810
1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD
post Jan 13, 2009 - 9:01 PM
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Where confused.gif


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post Jan 14, 2009 - 1:25 AM
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they're there


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"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH

1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED
1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White
1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810
1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD
post Jan 14, 2009 - 1:55 AM
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haa haa I have a virgin toyota cluster in KM it came with my clip
post Jan 14, 2009 - 1:16 PM
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Thank You Thank You Thank You bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif biggrin.gif


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