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Good Day All.

I have some questions that i did not get from trolling and searchings. I hope that the some of the swap gurus can chime in.

Project: Swap 6gen JDM 3SGE Beams into 1994 USDM GT.
Goals: 200whp and reliability
Use: Race - Car will be completely gutted including all glass and prepped for racing.

Current setup is a stock 5SFE with 60k miles.
Transplanting 3SGE Beams and LSD S54 tranny. Yet to be procured. I have few I am looking at with money in hand.

Drivetrain - The 5SFE has an S54 on it and I assume that the axles and clutch will interchange?
Question#1 - Did any of the USDM Celicas with the S54 have stock LSD?
Question#2 - Flywheel and clutch upgrade? What are my options?

Electrical - Since its a same Gen Celica did the harnesses drastically change over the lifecycle of the 6th Gen? Pre Post OdbII?
Question#1 - Can someone confirm that the stock USDM harness will plug and play with the ECU and Beams? With exception to wires being lenghted to accomodate RHD vs LHD.
Question#2 - If my assumptions for one is complete off please guide me in the correct direction.
Question#3 - Dash Cluster - Racing I really do not care about speed as much as temps and RPM. I do not want to buy an JDM dash cluster is there a work around to make the stock one work? Otherwise will likely go the DEFI Link route.
Question#4 ODBII vs ODB1 The 94 is ODB1. The Beams will be ODBII Has anyone got this to work on a pre 96 vehicle? I only ask as ODB is a good way to check sensor failure vs the plug and play method.


Tuning
Goal of 200whp with Intake, Exhaust upgrade, no cat, no P/S, no A/C, Flywheel upgrade, ecu, ect.
Questions1 - Does anyone have experience with any of the JDM ECUs such as Mines, Toms, I.Mec, Blitz?
Question#2 - Headers any experience with C-One, Apexi, HKS, Fujitsubo?
Question#3 - Crank/Balancer Pulley.. Is there one?


Thanks in advance.

This post has been edited by turnip: Oct 7, 2011 - 8:57 AM

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- turnip   Swap: 3sge Beams into 94GT-RIP=DEAD   Aug 26, 2009 - 9:46 AM
- - Batman722   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 23, 2009 - 8...   Sep 23, 2009 - 6:04 PM
- - njccmd2002   is there a specific plug in the EA1? for the cruis...   Sep 23, 2009 - 6:59 PM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 23, 2009 - 7...   Sep 23, 2009 - 9:59 PM
- - njccmd2002   sorry i meant the airbag, not the cruise, i am wok...   Sep 24, 2009 - 5:23 AM
- - turnip   Ebay intake. I am sure I will need to mess with ...   Sep 25, 2009 - 9:48 AM
- - 2bcelica   let me know how this goes, because my setup did no...   Sep 25, 2009 - 10:02 AM
- - turnip   Update: Got it all hooked back up but no closer ...   Sep 27, 2009 - 12:51 PM
|- - 2bcelica   QUOTE (turnip @ Sep 27, 2009 - 6:51 ...   Sep 27, 2009 - 1:29 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (2bcelica @ Sep 27, 2009 - 2:2...   Sep 27, 2009 - 5:58 PM
- - turnip   So I am dealing with my transmission issues. Fir...   Sep 29, 2009 - 1:34 PM
- - njccmd2002   oh god, i hope not mine. did you get the timing b...   Sep 30, 2009 - 8:29 AM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 30, 2009 - 8...   Sep 30, 2009 - 10:20 AM
- - 2bcelica   Thermostat - part number 90916-03100 http://www....   Sep 30, 2009 - 10:49 AM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (2bcelica @ Sep 30, 2009 - 10...   Sep 30, 2009 - 1:35 PM
- - turnip   UPDATE: Engine back out and on the floor. Took...   Oct 3, 2009 - 6:45 AM
- - erahman85   Where do you get the spark plugs?   Oct 3, 2009 - 5:30 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (erahman85 @ Oct 3, 2009 - 5:3...   Oct 3, 2009 - 5:34 PM
- - turnip   Got the engine back in after performing all the se...   Oct 5, 2009 - 7:04 PM
- - njccmd2002   what pulleys are those, have any pics? did you ge...   Oct 5, 2009 - 7:20 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Oct 5, 2009 - 7...   Oct 6, 2009 - 7:48 AM
- - njccmd2002   woot for hks   Oct 6, 2009 - 9:02 AM
- - Rusty   so is it all back together now? up and running yet...   Oct 11, 2009 - 2:50 AM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (Rusty @ Oct 11, 2009 - 3:50 A...   Oct 11, 2009 - 7:40 PM
- - njccmd2002   how did that happen men, sorry for ya. hope you g...   Oct 11, 2009 - 8:58 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Oct 11, 2009 - 9...   Oct 11, 2009 - 9:04 PM
- - Outsider   OUCH! I know the pain. Done my right one in 5...   Oct 12, 2009 - 9:46 PM
- - turnip   Neighbor stopped down and help me put it back toge...   Oct 13, 2009 - 8:46 PM
- - turnip   Just read some of the new track rules for the raci...   Oct 14, 2009 - 8:28 PM
|- - 2bcelica   QUOTE (turnip @ Oct 15, 2009 - 2:28 ...   Oct 15, 2009 - 12:59 PM
- - njccmd2002   those are hard to come by, just like im stuck with...   Oct 14, 2009 - 10:54 PM
- - njccmd2002   found this just in case you were still looking ht...   Oct 15, 2009 - 8:33 AM
- - freddy121389   what does a vvti sensor do?   Oct 15, 2009 - 12:33 PM
- - turnip   Well had the car out on the road today. Left it ...   Oct 18, 2009 - 3:15 PM
- - njccmd2002   be careful running it lean, i heard its bad, the ...   Oct 18, 2009 - 5:32 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Oct 18, 2009 - 5...   Oct 18, 2009 - 6:32 PM
|- - Rusty   QUOTE (turnip @ Oct 19, 2009 - 12:32...   Oct 19, 2009 - 11:41 PM
- - njccmd2002   only batman or turnip can tell you for sure, i don...   Oct 18, 2009 - 6:36 PM
- - turnip   Okay below is a link to 4 videos of the idle issue...   Oct 20, 2009 - 7:12 PM
|- - 2bcelica   QUOTE (turnip @ Oct 21, 2009 - 12:12...   Oct 21, 2009 - 9:01 PM
- - turnip   Adjusted the screw and it was already all the way ...   Oct 22, 2009 - 8:02 PM
- - Rusty   well after all the problems 2bcelica went through,...   Oct 22, 2009 - 9:15 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (Rusty @ Oct 22, 2009 - 10:15 ...   Oct 22, 2009 - 10:08 PM
- - turnip   So here is some pics from my removable thrust glas...   Oct 24, 2009 - 7:43 PM
- - Rusty   hmmm about the TB what cleaning have you done th...   Oct 29, 2009 - 11:41 PM
- - pasqual   finally my custom exhaust header is ready ...   Oct 31, 2009 - 1:44 PM
- - erahman85   Hmmm nice headers. How much do you want for the st...   Oct 31, 2009 - 8:27 PM
- - turnip   Some pics of the Kirkosaur motor mounts. Front i...   Nov 3, 2009 - 8:33 PM
- - turnip   A few more things arrived. NST 3sgte Crank Pulley...   Nov 8, 2009 - 8:46 AM
- - Bitter   damn, thats coming together nicely.   Nov 8, 2009 - 12:25 PM
- - illtuned   Turnip, where do you race? good thread.   Nov 8, 2009 - 12:54 PM
- - njccmd2002   nice where did you get the other celi   Nov 8, 2009 - 1:19 PM
|- - turnip   Found it on craigslist. Wanted a parts car for do...   Nov 8, 2009 - 8:26 PM
- - 96stgreendemon   hey how does that glass pack sound on the car? i w...   Nov 8, 2009 - 11:39 PM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (96stgreendemon @ Nov 9, 2009 - 12...   Nov 9, 2009 - 9:09 AM
- - illtuned   OT: 2ZZ (duzzy) are great motors. I was able to ...   Nov 9, 2009 - 10:19 AM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (illtuned @ Nov 9, 2009 - 10:1...   Nov 9, 2009 - 11:39 AM
|- - illtuned   QUOTE (turnip @ Nov 9, 2009 - 11:39 ...   Nov 9, 2009 - 11:46 AM
- - turnip   Crank Pulley Installed with no AC or PS   Nov 9, 2009 - 2:28 PM
- - illtuned   What belt did you use?   Nov 9, 2009 - 2:32 PM
|- - turnip   $12 belt from advance auto. Make was a dri...   Nov 9, 2009 - 2:56 PM
- - turnip   Gutting started today. Trying to decide weather ...   Nov 14, 2009 - 7:59 PM
- - turnip   It was so nice yesterday I decided to take it out ...   Nov 16, 2009 - 9:30 AM
- - turnip   Okay only worked a half a day today and its beauti...   Nov 16, 2009 - 12:56 PM
- - Rusty   nice videos maybe the sherriff is watching your p...   Nov 17, 2009 - 11:42 PM
- - delusionz   Haha I want to drive my GT4 through your neighborh...   Nov 18, 2009 - 2:19 AM
|- - turnip   QUOTE (delusionz @ Nov 18, 2009 - 3...   Nov 18, 2009 - 8:53 AM
- - delusionz   Yeah I meant tinny (not tiny) as in sounds like a ...   Nov 20, 2009 - 8:42 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   how much weight did you save by taking out the pow...   Nov 24, 2009 - 8:55 PM
|- - turnip   AC was 15lbs PS was 9lbs Hoping to gain some extr...   Nov 24, 2009 - 9:30 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   almost been 2 months since your last post. any upd...   Jan 19, 2010 - 2:27 AM
- - turnip   Thanks for the reminder. Had some crazy crazy ...   Jan 19, 2010 - 7:11 AM
- - turnip   So finally got the new plasma out over the weekend...   Jan 19, 2010 - 11:30 AM
- - njccmd2002   that is nuts, wow. amazed by the work, cant wait ...   Jan 19, 2010 - 5:22 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   keep up the good work!   Jan 19, 2010 - 5:34 PM
- - turnip   Tracked it last night. Got spun into the wall but...   Apr 3, 2010 - 7:48 AM
- - turnip   So last night was first time out on the dirt. Ne...   Apr 3, 2010 - 9:21 PM
- - njccmd2002   how do you like it, i love mine   Apr 4, 2010 - 12:47 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Who would've thought that a BEAMS would be pow...   Apr 4, 2010 - 12:56 PM
- - turnip   Love it. Just cant wait to have tons of traction ...   Apr 5, 2010 - 10:39 AM
- - turnip   NEED TRACTION!!! This car is insane...   Apr 18, 2010 - 8:47 AM
- - Capone   Im not 100% sure if the camry wheels will fit or n...   Apr 21, 2010 - 2:36 PM
|- - turnip   Do you know if the GTS ever came with steel wheels...   Apr 21, 2010 - 3:17 PM
|- - whatthe   QUOTE (Capone @ Apr 22, 2010 - 5:36 ...   Apr 22, 2010 - 8:51 AM
- - Capone   As far as I know the GTS was the only version to g...   Apr 21, 2010 - 4:55 PM
- - Capone   ^ My bad, I stand Corrected.   Apr 22, 2010 - 5:19 PM
- - turnip   I shoe horned a 225 on a 6" rim so that will ...   Apr 27, 2010 - 8:50 PM
- - njccmd2002   post pics as soon as your done.   Apr 29, 2010 - 8:28 AM
- - turnip   Will get some pics up and video soon. Took the...   May 1, 2010 - 11:39 PM
- - turnip   So you hear me complaining about traction. Doi...   May 6, 2010 - 2:11 PM
- - turnip   Picked up project #2 tonight. Stay tuned for the...   May 13, 2010 - 9:27 PM
- - turnip   Video Up of my win with it at the track. Shiny Bl...   May 16, 2010 - 8:27 PM
- - turnip   Thought I would bring this thread back alive with ...   Nov 5, 2010 - 10:51 PM
- - turnip   So the experimenting has begun. I pulled everyth...   Nov 16, 2010 - 4:21 PM
- - turnip   Car died. Check first post on page 1 for the car...   Oct 7, 2011 - 8:50 AM
- - presure2   wow, looks like ya took quite a hit! hope your...   Oct 8, 2011 - 7:31 AM
- - turnip   Thank got I have a plasma cutter cause taking the ...   Oct 9, 2011 - 10:58 AM
- - richee3   Wow, that's a pretty good hit. At least you...   Oct 9, 2011 - 11:42 AM
- - njccmd2002   yes, thread revival, but i missed this one, sad ...   Dec 8, 2013 - 4:55 PM
- - richee3   I talk to him every now and then. I haven't in...   Dec 8, 2013 - 5:00 PM
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