Springs v. Coilovers Options

[TinoCel]

you wont even need camber bolts with a 2.2" drop on the front. I have tanabe df210 and I dont have any camber bolts installed.

Camber bolts is only for coilovers or cut springs.

Some ppl dont see wear, every car i've dropped does, but thats my luck

[azian_advanced]

i got wear on mine too.. it's just a matter of time before it shows..

[trdproven]

anytime a car is dropped it will wear abnormally/faster. sometimes it is deceiving because the tire still looks straight but it isn't

This post has been edited by trdproven: Feb 4, 2010 - 9:15 PM

[97toyotacelicagt]

i think im going to buy those megan coilovers,anyone have them?,and are they good?

[SwissFerdi]

i think im going to buy those megan coilovers,anyone have them?,and are they good?

The guy above you has them, and so does Harold_Fastwaker. I'm sure there are more, I just can't remember off the top of my head.

[nics]

02corolla has em too. he has pics in the multimedia i believe.

[sips]

Well, I seem to be in the minority in this thread. Maybe it's because I actually race cars, maybe it's because I like to drive my cars in real life situations and not have them ride like a hay wagon or scrape on every bump or pothole ... regardless, I don't like 'coilovers'.

I have owned 4 cars with adjustable 'coilover' suspensions (Cusco, Silkroad, Tein). The ride quality on all of them sucked. I have seen shock dynos of these JDM brands and they all suck. They are overdamped, their adjustment knobs do almost nothing, do way too much or do the wrong thing. On the track they don't seem to perform as well either unless it is perfectly smooth asphalt with no dips. The only thing they do well is height adjustment. If you are looking for a suspension that you can slam and don't care about how rough it is get these cheap coilovers (anything under $3000 is a cheap coilover).

If you want good ride quality and performance stick to a quality brand shock and properly matched spring. I suggest Bilstein or Koni (rebound adjustable), plus a mild drop spring with 20-40% increase in stiffness. This will give you a comfortable ride and good performance.

This post has been edited by sips: Feb 5, 2010 - 9:07 PM

[terbear4god4life]

Well, I seem to be in the minority in this thread. Maybe it's because I actually race cars, maybe it's because I like to drive my cars in real life situations and not have them ride like a hay wagon or scrape on every bump or pothole ... regardless, I don't like 'coilovers'.

I have owned 4 cars with adjustable 'coilover' suspensions (Cusco, Silkroad, Tein). The ride quality on all of them sucked. I have seen shock dynos of these JDM brands and they all suck. They are overdamped, their adjustment knobs do almost nothing, do way too much or do the wrong thing. On the track they don't seem to perform as well either unless it is perfectly smooth asphalt with no dips. The only thing they do well is height adjustment. If you are looking for a suspension that you can slam and don't care about how rough it is get these cheap coilovers (anything under $3000 is a cheap coilover).

If you want good ride quality and performance stick to a quality brand shock and properly matched spring. I suggest Bilstein or Koni (rebound adjustable), plus a mild drop spring with 20-40% increase in stiffness. This will give you a comfortable ride and good performance.

is this like your first post on this forum lol btw.

[Edophus]

Well, I seem to be in the minority in this thread. Maybe it's because I actually race cars, maybe it's because I like to drive my cars in real life situations and not have them ride like a hay wagon or scrape on every bump or pothole ... regardless, I don't like 'coilovers'.

I have owned 4 cars with adjustable 'coilover' suspensions (Cusco, Silkroad, Tein). The ride quality on all of them sucked. I have seen shock dynos of these JDM brands and they all suck. They are overdamped, their adjustment knobs do almost nothing, do way too much or do the wrong thing. On the track they don't seem to perform as well either unless it is perfectly smooth asphalt with no dips. The only thing they do well is height adjustment. If you are looking for a suspension that you can slam and don't care about how rough it is get these cheap coilovers (anything under $3000 is a cheap coilover).

If you want good ride quality and performance stick to a quality brand shock and properly matched spring. I suggest Bilstein or Koni (rebound adjustable), plus a mild drop spring with 20-40% increase in stiffness. This will give you a comfortable ride and good performance.

i would agree with that for the most part, generally any coilovers i have tried that cost less than about $3000 are not very great, high spring rates and poor ride quality do not always need to go together, with correct dampening you can still have an acceptable ride, the only exception i've come across so far was a set of KW variant 2's, they were excellent and not to far from the stock ride comfort on my corolla i had at the time, even with 8kg springs. I dont think you can expect a set of coilovers that come with pillowball top mounts etc, all for the same price as a set of normal shocks/springs, to be very good, the cost cutting will probably be in the damper, which is exactly where you dont want to be cutting corners for best handling/ride. If i just wanted the look then the likes of d2/ksport/megan/bc etc would be fine but personally if i wanted good handling and ride i'd either stump up for good coilovers or get a quality set of dampers and springs.

[Harold_Fastwaker]

I dunno, I guess finishing podium with "cheap coilovers" must not occur for you all.


Coilovers were designed for the track, hence why they are ****ty on normal road conditions. If you can't handle driving in a lowered car with stiff suspension on a daily basis, change hobbies and go buy a prius. Don't get me started on air rides. Bags are for 40s and groceries.

This post has been edited by Harold_Fastwaker: Mar 5, 2010 - 6:06 PM

[garin]

Hahahaha

[Edophus]

I dunno, I guess finishing podium with "cheap coilovers" must not occur for you all.


Coilovers were designed for the track, hence why they are ****ty on normal road conditions. If you can't handle driving in a lowered car with stiff suspension on a daily basis, change hobbies and go buy a prius. Don't get me started on air rides. Bags are for 40s and groceries.

your funny, if you'd actually experienced some good coilovers you'd realise they dont have to be ****ty on normal road conditions. what thats got to do with finishing on the podium i dunno, for sure you can still do well with cheap coilovers when competing, just your drive home might be a bit uncomfy .