My 3rd Gen 3SGTE Swap Thread, It lives!!! Pg8 Options

[presure2]

today is the first day of the rest of my life.


lol..the big day is here!
im about to go out and do the lower oil pan gasket, and clean and paint the tranny.
dustin is coming by to give me a hand dropping the motor into place later this am, we're planning on having it all in and mostly hooked back together by tonight, so that i can button the last of it up and have her running tommorow.
pics later!!

[MGCustoms325]

2 thumps WAY WAY UP! Great job with everything so far man.

[presure2]

motor is in, mounts are on, big win #1, the 5sfte exhaust bolts right up!

[lagos]

So sick!

[95st-celica]

its about DAMN time that car is 3s powered!

[spolski07]

this thread makes me happy

[presure2]

Everything is connected, motor is running, we spent prolly 4-5 hrs diagnosing a "spark issue"...only to figure out I crossed a couple wires when I installed the cap and rotor. Lol
lots of pics and vids tommorow, hopfully we have decent weather later in the day and the wifey will take it for it's first ride.
Big thanks to Dustin and steff. D was here ALL day, helping out every step of the way.
Steff came thru as usual with the parts hookup, her devilish good looks, and of course the common sense to say after 4+hrs of trying all kinda stuff ...."hey, you sure you just didn't cross a wire or somthing??"
love you steff, your the best.
And of course, most importantly, the wifey, for putting up with me being bitchy from working in the garage for hrs after working all day, and taking great care of our beautiful daughter, while I'm outside working on the car.
There is NO way I could do it without her.
Team JDM guy, in full effect. This is the culmination of years of reaserch, and prolly a hundred or more hours of work between tearing everything down, clean up, paint work, customization, reassembleing everything, and the install.
But without my family, and the friends I've made here on 6gc, it never would have happen.
From Jim, who hooked me up with a great deal on a great clip, to all the people in the "crew" I have helping me out, and to all of you guys who I've had the pleasure of making friends with over the years here at 6gc, I just wanna say thanks.
What a blast it's been, and the best is yet to come!!!

[MGCustoms325]

Congrats man. Funny how something so small can cause such a big issue. Glad you guys figured it out. ENJOY!

[Rusty]

wow big congrates manny and company

[presure2]

Congrats man. Funny how something so small can cause such a big issue. Glad you guys figured it out. ENJOY!

yup, we went thru EVERYTHING before i checked the simplest thing. we even removed the fuel rail and swapped injectors..lol

a few more pics from yesterday.

tranny painted:



the comp clutch from dr tweak i got last year, looks pretty much like it did when i pulled it a few months after the install of the last revision of the 5sfte.



putting the motor in. normally we connect the tranny and install it together, but i didnt want to scratch the bay up after just painting it, so we installed them seperately.



the boot installed onto the firewall:



and now, the basics of the wiring that is required.

first is the interior plugs.

this black wire on the white plug:





is for the clutch start switch. we need to put it to pin 17 on this grey plug:



you can see the #'s for the pins on the back of the plug (sorry for the upsidedown pic, i forgot to edit it)



so i added a pin from one of the 5s harness plugs:



and soldered the connection:



and thats it on the interior.

next up is the EA1 plug in the engine bay.

this pic is the bodyharness side of the gt-4 EA1. the 3 wires on each end are extra wires that need to be used with the swap, along with a couple on the top.

with my 94, the connector for my EA1 bodyharness side was blocked off solid where those wires go, which was diffrent from jims swap. jims 95 had little rubber plugs in them that were able to easily be removed to add pins if needed.

so, we just removed the wires from the 5s bodyharness EA1, and transfered those over to the gt-4 one.
a pic pointing to the 3 wires from each side:





in this pic, the gt-4 plug is on top, the 5s one on the bottom.
basicly, it was as easy as removing the pins one at a time from the 5s one, and installing it into the 3s one.
easy peasy.


and a pic of the pin tool i used to remove the pins in action.



a medium saftey pin also works well.

once thats done, there are 3 wires left over, 2 need power sources, and a white with black stripe gets ground.
thats all there is to it!
lots more pics and vids later. unfortunately, its supossed to rain all day, so the vids will prolly be on the lame side for now..lol

[njccmd2002]

man, that is as simple as wiring in a beams. so why pay 400 bucks. i mean if peope keep asking how to swap a 3sgte, i dont know what else they want.

more detailed than this, maybe we need to hold their hands.


I am tempted sometimes to get another celi, the problem is time and space.

but this is awesome.

Maybe i missed it, but what did u use to clean the tranny to be able to paint it.

one more thing, is the blue srs wire included in this harness or is it the same as the beams?

[Batman722]

one more thing, is the blue srs wire included in this harness or is it the same as the beams?

same as the beams

looking great Megatron !

[pipes]

niice. 1 question y does everyone stress over that clutch switch? ive talked to a couple people and they stressed that switch for some reason
congrats though n enjoy

[presure2]

niice. 1 question y does everyone stress over that clutch switch? ive talked to a couple people and they stressed that switch for some reason
congrats though n enjoy

dont really know what you mean, but i just know i wanted my clutch switch to work..lol
thanks, i definetly do plan on enjoying it!!

noberto, agreed, the wiring defiently is pretty simple, especially when you have dustin who knows the 3rd gen wiring pretty much by heart at this point.
each 3rd gen swap we've done, he's gathered more info, and pretty much has it down to a science at this point.

thanks again, D, couldnt have gotten this done like this without your help.

going out in a few minutes to button the last of it up, more pics and a couple idle vids will be up real soon.

[lagos]

niice. 1 question y does everyone stress over that clutch switch? ive talked to a couple people and they stressed that switch for some reason
congrats though n enjoy

Needs to be wired up or bypassed for the car to start.

[pipes]

niice. 1 question y does everyone stress over that clutch switch? ive talked to a couple people and they stressed that switch for some reason
congrats though n enjoy

Needs to be wired up or bypassed for the car to start.

i know this.... i personally figured it would be easier to bypass.....seeing as my car never came with one i always thought it would be a pain to install it...seeing as you dont need it

[hurley97]

niice. 1 question y does everyone stress over that clutch switch? ive talked to a couple people and they stressed that switch for some reason
congrats though n enjoy

Needs to be wired up or bypassed for the car to start.

i know this.... i personally figured it would be easier to bypass.....seeing as my car never came with one i always thought it would be a pain to install it...seeing as you dont need it

Some tracks don't let you race unless the clutch start function works properly. And, its really not very hard to hook up at all. Its just the wire you use to bypass it, cut it and run one end to one pin and the other end to the other pin of the switch that's at the bottom of the clutch pedal. It just interrupts the signal until you push the switch by pushing in the clutch.

[pipes]

niice. 1 question y does everyone stress over that clutch switch? ive talked to a couple people and they stressed that switch for some reason
congrats though n enjoy

Needs to be wired up or bypassed for the car to start.

i know this.... i personally figured it would be easier to bypass.....seeing as my car never came with one i always thought it would be a pain to install it...seeing as you dont need it

Some tracks don't let you race unless the clutch start function works properly. And, its really not very hard to hook up at all. Its just the wire you use to bypass it, cut it and run one end to one pin and the other end to the other pin of the switch that's at the bottom of the clutch pedal. It just interrupts the signal until you push the switch by pushing in the clutch.

my wiring is all jap spec the harness doesnt even have it wired in.....i believe overseas that switch doesnt exsist...... you guys keep explaining how it works like i dont already know...i simply asked y bother wiring it in.... manny already gave me his response

COMPUTER WENT NUTS SORRY!!!! good build once again

This post has been edited by presure2: Jun 13, 2010 - 2:34 PM

[hurley97]

I was just trying to explain why I think most people would want to hook it up and that its really not a pain to do. My car didn't come with the wiring either, it was an auto. I wired it in like a year after the swap just to have it work like a factory 5spd.

Anyway... YAY, IT RUNS!!!!!! I'm very excited for you guys!!

[Ted95]

soo sick manny congrats!!!! im so pumped for u guys man great job with this swap. this thread gives me goose bumps about my swap and how much i cant wait to do it! lol .. once again congrats great job!