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> 5s distributer differences, goin for a swap now...
post Apr 3, 2010 - 6:23 PM
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my story:

my stock 95 5sfe is dead. time to swap. got ahold of a new 5sfe.

old 5sfe had the internal distributor cap ignition.

new 5sfe has the external distributor cap ignition.


my question:

what is, (if any) ecu/wiring harness differences between the two? is the engine all i need to swap out? or is there a revamped ecu? what changes to any of the harness' will i need to make, or will it be direct plug? what else do i need to know?


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post Apr 3, 2010 - 8:32 PM
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what year did you buy 5sfe?


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post Apr 3, 2010 - 8:59 PM
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year and cali and non-cali.
Just swap in your old distributor.


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post Apr 3, 2010 - 9:54 PM
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Apr 3, 2010 - 8:59 PM) *
year and cali and non-cali.
Just swap in your old distributor.


so i'm swapping in a non cali engine, YES!! biggrin.gif

will do; thanks man.


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post Apr 4, 2010 - 12:45 PM
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well also there are diffrences in some block sensors too.... so thats another reason .


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post Apr 4, 2010 - 7:17 PM
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Apr 4, 2010 - 12:45 PM) *
well also there are diffrences in some block sensors too.... so thats another reason .


There IS a difference in the o2 sensors.

old 5s = 1 wire
new 5s = 2 wire

will this all match up?


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post Apr 4, 2010 - 7:24 PM
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well if it depends which wiring you are using, here is another difference.

QUOTE (presure2 @ Mar 21, 2010 - 9:36 AM) *
the 96+ have the crank sensor intergrated into the oil pump housing, and the trigger wheel for it is intergrated into the crankshaft t-belt pully.
you will need to swap those over, along with the distributor, ect.




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post Apr 4, 2010 - 7:30 PM
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Apr 4, 2010 - 7:24 PM) *
well if it depends which wiring you are using, here is another difference.

QUOTE (presure2 @ Mar 21, 2010 - 9:36 AM) *
the 96+ have the crank sensor intergrated into the oil pump housing, and the trigger wheel for it is intergrated into the crankshaft t-belt pully.
you will need to swap those over, along with the distributor, ect.





is there any way to look at a motor and tell witch gen it is?


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post Apr 4, 2010 - 7:58 PM
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I'm tryin to figure if i can swap in this engine; i really wanna get it done, but it obviously must work when i'm finished laugh.gif


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post Apr 5, 2010 - 12:15 PM
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congrads man! wish i could help out on this one! but i do remember being told that all the blocks are basically the same (5s,3s) and that you can interchange sensors... (the one near the pump specifically) ive even seen a guy using a 3s head on a 5s block and make 600+ hp


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post Apr 6, 2010 - 5:50 AM
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QUOTE (D-Man @ Apr 4, 2010 - 8:58 PM) *
I'm tryin to figure if i can swap in this engine; i really wanna get it done, but it obviously must work when i'm finished laugh.gif

its not a problem swapping a diffrent gen, just use the old accessories off the old motor.


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post Apr 6, 2010 - 7:33 PM
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is there a wrightup on wiring in the new acc? i'd really like to ditch the cali-emmision BS; as i live in texas where emissions dont matter. (yeah, the whooping 5hp difference laugh.gif )

honestly i like the idea of the external better.

i've been searching, but supprisingly, there are very few 5s(ca) to 5s(norm) swaps being done. I may just be a one of a kind laugh.gif (bragging rights tongue.gif )

This post has been edited by D-Man: Apr 6, 2010 - 7:34 PM


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post Apr 7, 2010 - 5:36 AM
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QUOTE (D-Man @ Apr 6, 2010 - 8:33 PM) *
is there a wrightup on wiring in the new acc? i'd really like to ditch the cali-emmision BS; as i live in texas where emissions dont matter. (yeah, the whooping 5hp difference laugh.gif )

honestly i like the idea of the external better.

i've been searching, but supprisingly, there are very few 5s(ca) to 5s(norm) swaps being done. I may just be a one of a kind laugh.gif (bragging rights tongue.gif )

not really, it happens alllll the time. ive done a couple, both 5s and 7a.
just FYI, the external ignitor stuff is on the cali spec motors and all the 96+


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post Apr 7, 2010 - 6:49 PM
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yeah i know, i just wanted to feel special. frown.gif thanks for rainin' on my parade laugh.gif

is there a way to find a code on the engine itself to track down year/gen/application it is?




also thanks for the help/heads up; and hopefully i'll have this done soon.



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