Demand for 7A-FE Turbo kits, Updated information Options

[SupraKid]

You wont see 300whp with a 7afe...unless you put ungodly amounts of cash into it...If you have a good suspension,wide GOOD tires and know how to drive you could put the power down alright...

[95celicastLSR]

You wont see 300whp with a 7afe...unless you put ungodly amounts of cash into it...If you have a good suspension,wide GOOD tires and know how to drive you could put the power down alright...

im going to try to be the first to do it...i am doing a full build with forged internals and the whole 9 yards... i know people say you can not have that much or the engine can not take it but when u do the 7agte it proves the bottom end can handle over 300hp... i will be starting this after income tax returns as i need my rods and few odd and ends but the cams and head is where all the magic will be performed... when the time comes ill do a complete build and take pic's ... and after it is all done and said hopefully it opens the doors to others that want to build up the 7a.... yeah i agree suspension and good tires play a high role in traction...

[Smaay]

yeah i dont see any reason it cant be done, the head definatly needs some port work and upgrade the pistons, the rods actually i think can take it. the 7A rods are beefier than the 1ZZ rods which are toothpicks. we have made 300 on stock 1ZZ's all the time

[95celicastLSR]

yeah i dont see any reason it cant be done, the head definatly needs some port work and upgrade the pistons, the rods actually i think can take it. the 7A rods are beefier than the 1ZZ rods which are toothpicks. we have made 300 on stock 1ZZ's all the time

i have the forged pistons from wiseco all ready but i know the rods may hold that much but i know for sure the rod bolts wont be able to hold so i am getting paughter rods and there upgraded rod bolts ... so the bottom end will be built for 600+ hp but i will be more than happy with right around 300whp at high boost/race tune. the head as far as it goes i plan on getting custom cams along with a stg 3 head port and all....most of the parts i have for anybody thinking about doing the same is from importperformanceparts.net which you can order just the HP rebuild kit with toga racing bearings and copper head gasket and pro topline gaskets and most importantly the custom forged pistons with any comp/bore size for just above 1000.00$..

[Smaay]

dont and i repeat, dont use a copper head gasket! you need to have the block and head machined (ringed) for the gasket. its not worth it IMO. the newer OEM gaskets are metal and work just fine. Im making over 500HP on a stock head gasket



This post has been edited by Smaay: Nov 17, 2010 - 1:02 PM

[2celicas2love]

Jeff...ill be honest with you.IN my opinion No one is going to be a Guinea pig and buy this kit at that price..I mean Full 3sgte swaps can be had for that cost if you know the right people!!And for 7afe guys the 4ag(z)e is much more reliable and around the same power for under that cost!

No one's being a guinea pig, Erynn already covered that & the results are tested & true. I'll kick in my 2¢ on it, for that matter, especially being an ST owner - I drove her car over Labor Day weekend when I went down for a visit, and it's freakin' AWESOME. The work Jeff did on it is top notch; he's an engineer by profession, and knows what he's doing. He's got the awards on his wall to prove it, too. Erynn's car looks like hell on the outside ( sorry, Erynn but you know I'm not saying anything you don't already know! LOL) but it pulls GREAT and is a really fun ride. It's EXACTLY what I would expect out of a turbo 7A - you're not going to pull HUGE numbers on a stock block, and as a daily driver, it's a HIGHLY feasible modification to make your every day drive that much more enjoyable.

A full 3S-GTE can NOT be had for that cost, unless you score big on the engine. Once you account for incidentals, harness, etc, you're looking at a minimum of 3k. And for us ST owners, it's way more than that, because then you're talking about axles, tranny, etc. So that's a poor analogy.

4a-gze isn't "much more reliable" either, sorry, and nor can it be had for under that cost with the same power. Superchargers are NOTORIOUS for going out, I'd hazard to say much more so than turbines. You're looking at about 160-180 HP depending on which generation you get, and even with that, good luck finding one domestically. I've researched the HELL out of this, and I'd say that a 4a-gze swap into an ST is going to run *about* the same amount. So really, it comes down to a matter of personal preference. Do you want to drop in a 4a-gze for about 180 HP w/out modifications, or do you want to turbo the 7A and get about 200-215 HP off the bat? Then you start getting into HP potential (and more money) for either route when you start looking at mods and upgrades.

Thanks Michelle, you summed it up for everyone, and yes it does look like hell I cannot deny that! It's a work in progress paint... someday.. .lol

[95celicastLSR]

quick question smaay... aftermarket injectors on the 7afe stock fuel rail... i know they have to be high imped... but as far as brands and size will most of them fit wiith out a problem ???? was planning on RC's 440cc-550cc....... thnx Lance

This post has been edited by 95celicastLSR: Dec 10, 2010 - 9:13 PM

[Smaay]

yes they need to be high impeadance, RCs might work i never checked to see if they will fit on the head. Im using Supra 7M-GE in Erynns car, im using 460 RX7 injectors in my car. those will be much cheaper than new ones and they work!

[95celicastLSR]

yes they need to be high impeadance, RCs might work i never checked to see if they will fit on the head. Im using Supra 7M-GE in Erynns car, im using 460 RX7 injectors in my car. those will be much cheaper than new ones and they work!

i see well i know im going to need at least 440 so i may look into some 460rx7 injectors... now does it matter what gen of rx7 ? now u say u have them on ur car right which turbo are u running/boost... i was going to go with turbonetics super 60 ..

[Smaay]

look in Pressure2 thread, he lists the part number for the injectors, i believe they are FC non turbo, not FD injectors. im using the stock 3S-GTE turbo system right now, but im upgrading it to the same turbo on the 7A kit. its a Garrett super 60. i have plenty of injectors so those will be fine. if you are looking to turbo your 5S, stand by cause my kit will be coming real soon.

[95celicastLSR]

look in Pressure2 thread, he lists the part number for the injectors, i believe they are FC non turbo, not FD injectors. im using the stock 3S-GTE turbo system right now, but im upgrading it to the same turbo on the 7A kit. its a Garrett super 60. i have plenty of injectors so those will be fine. if you are looking to turbo your 5S, stand by cause my kit will be coming real soon.

okay thanks ill check it out and i have a 7afe and dont really need anything other than injectors and intercooler/pipe.. and of course the AEM F/i* cntlr.. if u dont sell the kit as a whole maybe ill try to get the intercooler /pipe if ur selling it ... but thanx for the help

[Smaay]

im using a split second for management now, im not a fan of the FIC anymore. it doesnt work well on toyotas

[keison2000]

I wish my car was out there for you to turbo... What I would like to know is if you're willing to send me your setup so that I can install it myself....

I finished Erynn's car last night. havent had a chance to drive it yet. Ill take pictures tonight when i get it home. but it basically looks exactly like mine but a 7A-FE instead of the 5S-FE.

So here is the big question. how much demand is there for a turbo kit? I can re-produce this kit fairly easy. kit will include manifold with lifetime warrenty, Garrett turbo, intercooler, polished aluminium piping, BOV, FMU for fuel, and all fittings and lines for oil. the only thing that the end user will have to do is drop the small oil pan and have the bung welded into it.

[Smaay]

I wish my car was out there for you to turbo... What I would like to know is if you're willing to send me your setup so that I can install it myself....

yes thats the purpose of this thread, i can duplicate this kit very easily

[95celicastLSR]

im using a split second for management now, im not a fan of the FIC anymore. it doesnt work well on toyotas

really that sucks cause i have heard alot of good from them and also seen on here somewhere about at 4000rmp the stock ecu was fighting the FIc really hard but just had to do some trick with a resistor or something .... lol i dont remember .... where do u get that split second kit at ??? so i can look up info myself.. thnx

[keison2000]

I wish my car was out there for you to turbo... What I would like to know is if you're willing to send me your setup so that I can install it myself....

yes thats the purpose of this thread, i can duplicate this kit very easily

yeah, I think I'm up for this. I was going to do a 1mzfe swap, but with my insurance I would risk putting all that money into it for nothing. I saw $2500 somewhere in the thread is that what you are asking for your setup...

[Smaay]

yes about 2500 for the kit plus shipping which will be about 150.

as for the risistor in the FIC, i had to do the same thing, its making a filter across some of the signals. Toyota signals are very dirty and the FIC sees that noise as impulses and it confuses it. the Split Second in Erynns car is working awsesome

[diegohiga]

I have a question.. i already got all this.. I know im missing the turbo obviously....what else? walbro fuel pump? oil catch can?

where would be a good place to buy the turbo? and do i need something else?

THIS IS WHAT I HAVE....

-440cc injectors
-pipping
-boost controller
-FMI

greddy BOV


hks turbo timer


turbo manifold


already made the hole for oil return line


gauges


and i have this microtech set up for a celica from Australia... but i dont know if i should use it..



This post has been edited by diegohiga: Dec 20, 2010 - 12:54 AM

[Smaay]

thats a log style manifold, if you have the piping to mach up with a specific turbo, then use that. my manifold is eaqual length and has much better flow

[diegohiga]

thats a log style manifold, if you have the piping to mach up with a specific turbo, then use that. my manifold is eaqual length and has much better flow

can i see a pic of your manifold? and how mcuh would be only the trubo from you? and waht turbo would it be?