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post Dec 15, 2010 - 1:03 PM
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I don't own a 6GC anymore, but I am attached to this place, so you guys are stuck with me.



The V6 is a swap that MR2 gurus are doing these days. I suppose when you get a bunch of guys in their 30's and 40's with handfuls of disposable income, this is the result. I know there have been a few V6 swaps into the 6GC, and since the MR2 shares a bit with the Celica, I am making this thread in the hopes that someone on here will find it and get some of the information that they need.

Why I chose the 1mz over a 3sgte

Simple, really. I see the MR2 as a cheap exotic, why not make it sound like one? Power is the same if not a bit higher than the 3s, but it has torque the moment you put your foot down. Good fuel economy, reliable, yada yada yada. It actually gives you more room in the engine bay than the 3S, too.

Why the 1MZ over other V6 options?

Weight, cost, and availability. The 1MZ has an aluminum block. It actually weighs less than the 3sgte. The 3VZ has a cast iron block, and people opt for those if going with a turbo, but I'm not. I have my WRX for turbo shenanigans - this car is meant for reliable enjoyment. The 2GRFE would be incredible - 275whp stock... Only problem is finding one, and cheap. Most places that have them are selling them at more than what my swap will cost me... plus I would need to upgrade to the E153 transmission, turbo axles, hubs, brakes, etc. Just pile on the parts. Seems like a more suiting swap for someone who is starting out with a turbo MR2.

I picked my 1MZ up from another NASIOC and MR2OC board member who decided to go for a Honda V6 swap instead. He pulled this motor out of a 94 Lexus ES300 with 90k miles on it. It ran great, just got t-boned. No sludge, either. Owned by an old couple, this car was just in to the dealership for it's 90K service. If it weren't for the fact that timing belts are cheap, I might just leave this one on there. The guy I bought it from had already gone through the trouble of sourcing a new passenger side motor mount from 4v6 on the MR2 boards to make the swap drop straight in. The ES300 never came in manual transmission, and because of the lack of an automatic transmission in my car, this will throw a CEL. I am still trying to think of ways around this, but it'll probably end up with some sort of EMS.


So I started my list of what I still need to source... after compiling the list I thought to myself, I probably should have thought about this more.

- Custom headers Brad Bedell makes a set for $300, but requires a bit of modification to the runners to not hit the oil filter.
- Flywheel Need to get a V6 flywheel for a Solara. Decided on a Fidanza unit. Why not, right? $310
- Clutch The V6 flywheel is the same diameter as a mr2 turbo flywheel, but my clutch isn't. To maximize the surface area and avoid slipping I need to get a turbo clutch kit with a custom 20 spline disk to mount my S54 to the 1MZ. South Bend Clutch can do a kevlar clutch kit with 20 spline disk for $300.
- Tachometer The v6 sends a different signal than the 5s, so you need to source a v6 tach board from a camry for this. Drops right in to the MR2 cluster, but I am having my stock tach modified and recalibrated. $50
- Wiring I know this is going to be a nightmare to wire, so that is a headache I'm passing to someone else. Dr_tweak wants $630 to do it.... WTF happened to the $300-$400 conversions? Luckily there is a mr2 board member who does the work for $430.
- Exhaust work I have headers outlined above, and already have a Greddy SP muffler, so my exhaust shop needs to build a y-pipe to connect the two. Speculated cost with my discount (I refer A LOT of business to them) is around $200.
- Misc. crap Timing belt, gaskets, fluids, etc. I am also bundling kirkosaurus poly mount inserts under this category. $300

I've got about $1700 left to spend on this trip. Already spent $750 on the engine and everything I'll need from the donor car. I've set a deadline of February 28th to have it completely finished. If it wasn't for this Christmas BS (Now I know why adults hate this time of year) I would be well on my way. No problem.

I'm writing all of this out from my cell phone, so its all a bit jumbled and unformatted, but I've been meaning to post this stuff for a while. When I get to my computer I'll organize it and get some real info going. Until then, gaze upon awesomeness.




Okay, I'm home from work... and now I can reformat.....



Alright, now that is over with... I pulled the harness off of the motor last night.... And it's substantially larger than my 5S harness. This thing almost spans the length of my car! I'm not going to work on it tonight, but tomorrow I am going to go through and label the harness, and try and source some injector clips - the plastic was pretty brittle on mine and I snapped all but one of them. kindasad.gif

The guy I bought it from partially unwrapped the harness, so it looks nastier than it really is, but this harness has to weigh at least 30lbs. I'd like to see how much it'll weigh after I get it back.



This post has been edited by 95CelicaST: Oct 2, 2017 - 3:46 PM


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- 95CelicaST   1MZ-FE into my MR2   Dec 15, 2010 - 1:03 PM
- - 95CelicaST   If my girlfriend was expecting, the last thing I w...   Apr 11, 2011 - 7:45 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Loempia > what I said. Man I love me some Indon...   Apr 11, 2011 - 7:50 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Doesn't seem like any weight distribution chan...   Apr 12, 2011 - 4:06 PM
- - Bitter   get it corner weighted and adjusted.   Apr 12, 2011 - 7:00 PM
- - Ted95   thing looks sickk broo, sounds beastlyy, good work...   Apr 13, 2011 - 3:14 PM
- - jackassofalltrades   Visit My Website I was curious to know if you wer...   Apr 14, 2011 - 10:54 PM
- - njccmd2002   somebody is pulling your leg..   Apr 15, 2011 - 4:58 AM
- - 95CelicaST   Like others on the MR2 boards - It looks like an o...   Apr 15, 2011 - 4:34 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Just left the shop They're just getting star...   Apr 18, 2011 - 5:35 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Picked the car up this afternoon. Decided a good s...   Apr 22, 2011 - 11:05 PM
- - HectortheRican   FCUK YEAH!!!!   Apr 23, 2011 - 12:24 AM
- - Keiri   QUOTE (HectortheRican @ Apr 23, 2011 - 1...   Apr 23, 2011 - 9:22 AM
- - 95CelicaST   Found the source of the gas smell - bad o-rings on...   Apr 23, 2011 - 1:20 PM
- - Bitter   RE: 1MZ-FE into my MR2   Apr 23, 2011 - 3:57 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Replaced the o-rings, and the leak got worse. wha...   Apr 23, 2011 - 6:36 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Nevermind me slipping the clutch - I'm still t...   Apr 23, 2011 - 9:31 PM
- - Keiri   Now that's a fine amount of torque. Sounds g...   Apr 23, 2011 - 11:37 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Oh yeah, definitely. It was weird being in 4th gea...   Apr 23, 2011 - 11:52 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Sounds quite good indeed, looks fast for sure. Wal...   Apr 24, 2011 - 12:01 AM
- - 95CelicaST   Moar will come this morning. I will do a walk arou...   Apr 24, 2011 - 9:47 AM
- - SwissFerdi   Promise to include a maniacal laugh or two, a la f...   Apr 24, 2011 - 10:19 AM
- - 95CelicaST   I'll see what I can do. Raised the front end...   Apr 24, 2011 - 12:29 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Caution: Annoying noise ahead. Adjust speakers acc...   Apr 24, 2011 - 1:18 PM
|- - KAOS   QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Apr 24, 2011 - 12...   May 2, 2011 - 11:48 AM
- - SwissFerdi   Holy shetballs, you weren't kidding. Wow that...   Apr 24, 2011 - 1:25 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Pulled the alternator belt and started it to see i...   Apr 24, 2011 - 2:43 PM
- - Bitter   Check that the timing belt or pulley isn't rub...   Apr 24, 2011 - 3:02 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Not the timing belt - its sitting fine on the cam ...   Apr 24, 2011 - 3:55 PM
- - 95CelicaST   The idea of low coolant was brought up, but the co...   Apr 24, 2011 - 5:08 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Problem found. Its the riveted plate on the 4v6 mo...   Apr 24, 2011 - 5:47 PM
- - Keiri   QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Apr 24, 2011 - 6...   Apr 24, 2011 - 6:35 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Laid a bead of rtv around part of the panel and pr...   Apr 24, 2011 - 6:58 PM
- - epocsirhc   Lol that noise would definitely piss me off! T...   Apr 26, 2011 - 5:14 PM
- - 95CelicaST   A couple local sites and Nos did a car show for th...   May 1, 2011 - 12:24 PM
- - Keiri   Very clean. There is so much win in this project.   May 2, 2011 - 9:02 AM
|- - SwissFerdi   QUOTE (Keiri @ May 2, 2011 - 10:02 A...   May 2, 2011 - 9:48 AM
- - HectortheRican   So I take it that the rtv worked on the mount?   May 2, 2011 - 10:18 AM
- - 95CelicaST   Yep. It's ugly, but it stopped the vibration.....   May 2, 2011 - 10:57 AM
- - Stambo   now source a trd super charger and your in busines...   May 2, 2011 - 10:29 PM
- - Ted95   looks cleann bro atta boy!   May 3, 2011 - 8:21 PM
- - 95CelicaST   So I was driving to work yesterday and my battery ...   May 11, 2011 - 8:11 AM
- - whatthe   What kind of sway bars do you have? Stock? trd? ST...   May 24, 2011 - 11:44 AM
- - 95CelicaST   Never ST... not on the MR2 at least. the ST sways...   May 24, 2011 - 12:17 PM
- - whatthe   Is that a madpsi lip? Yeh i heard about all that w...   May 24, 2011 - 12:45 PM
- - 95CelicaST   It's actually made by a guy on MR2OC in his ga...   May 24, 2011 - 6:03 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Just hit ~2500 miles on the swap now and everythin...   Jun 3, 2011 - 10:45 PM
- - SupraKid   Since i know you usually do your research, why run...   Jun 4, 2011 - 1:18 AM
- - 95CelicaST   Simple - it was on sale I typically run Castrol ...   Jun 4, 2011 - 7:14 AM
- - epocsirhc   That's a shocker that royal purple would be ch...   Jun 4, 2011 - 12:21 PM
- - SupraKid   Haha makes sense, but from what I've researche...   Jun 4, 2011 - 1:10 PM
- - 95CelicaST   I am satisfied with this swap. I wasnt going into ...   Jun 4, 2011 - 5:25 PM
- - Bitter   don't use the safc to fix a problem, figure ou...   Jun 4, 2011 - 5:34 PM
- - 95CelicaST   The ACIS is working. The auto ECU thinks it's ...   Jun 4, 2011 - 5:45 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Video. You can see the power drop off when the car...   Jun 4, 2011 - 6:02 PM
- - Bitter   woah woah woah, auto ecu...don't you just grou...   Jun 4, 2011 - 6:50 PM
- - Bitter   http://www.mr2.com/forums/v6-owners-group/...g-que...   Jun 4, 2011 - 6:56 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Not for the 94-96. Doesn't work.   Jun 4, 2011 - 7:10 PM
- - presure2   definetly leaving some power on the table with it ...   Jun 4, 2011 - 9:19 PM
- - Bitter   those drop outs are not showing on the AF as sudde...   Jun 4, 2011 - 11:38 PM
- - 95CelicaST   I already have resistors hooked up to a sub-harnes...   Jun 6, 2011 - 5:43 PM
- - Bitter   From the thread.... QUOTE E8 Pin 9 and E8 Pin 4 ne...   Jun 6, 2011 - 7:21 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Getting a sub harness made up to piggyback off of ...   Jun 28, 2011 - 11:33 PM
- - whatthe   Your winning it mate!   Jun 28, 2011 - 11:45 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Haven't updated this thread for a while... Go...   Jul 31, 2011 - 3:38 PM
- - SupraKid   I was thinking of picking one of those units up, w...   Jul 31, 2011 - 3:44 PM
- - 95CelicaST   It's pretty nice. I haven't had a lot of t...   Jul 31, 2011 - 3:54 PM
- - snapshotgt   Nice thread, good work.   Jul 31, 2011 - 11:34 PM
- - epocsirhc   I'm jealous of the deal you got on that headun...   Aug 1, 2011 - 12:33 AM
- - whatthe   Is this your daily?   Aug 1, 2011 - 1:22 AM
- - 95CelicaST   Daily driver, yes sir.   Aug 1, 2011 - 8:08 AM
- - TougeParty   I love this build thread. It's been a great so...   Oct 9, 2011 - 4:14 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   your engine in stock form produces 210 hp right?? ...   Oct 10, 2011 - 4:58 AM
- - 95CelicaST   QUOTE (TougeParty @ Oct 9, 2011 - 2...   Oct 10, 2011 - 1:47 PM
- - stephen_lee   isnt it 190 in non VVT? Wiki: QUOTE Output is 16...   Oct 11, 2011 - 2:22 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Ah, yes. I snagged it from the wrong spot in the w...   Oct 11, 2011 - 3:36 PM
- - stephen_lee   i wonder where the 168 figure came from?   Oct 11, 2011 - 4:34 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Probably from another vehicle, for which the engin...   Oct 11, 2011 - 10:06 PM
- - 95CelicaST   IDK. That 168 is right around where stock WHP woul...   Oct 12, 2011 - 6:48 PM
- - stephen_lee   if that hole is before the egr valve, it wouldnt m...   Oct 14, 2011 - 10:23 AM
- - 95CelicaST   I had a photoshoot for a feature on a PNW-based au...   Nov 1, 2011 - 4:17 PM
- - SwissFerdi   Tasty.   Nov 1, 2011 - 4:20 PM
- - Keiri   Do. Want. That is one photogenic MR2.   Nov 2, 2011 - 7:35 AM
- - vvind   i want your seats!!! lol anyone know w...   Nov 20, 2011 - 10:48 PM
- - 95CelicaST   So this weekend I finally dove into my vacuum prob...   Nov 21, 2011 - 12:30 PM
|- - KAOS   QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Nov 21, 2011 - 10...   Nov 21, 2011 - 1:00 PM
- - 95CelicaST   The app is called Torque. I have it synced to a Bl...   Nov 21, 2011 - 1:11 PM
- - mak5603   Looking real good man. My dad has that torque app...   Nov 22, 2011 - 1:55 AM
- - SupraKid   One of those apps told me my celica made 300whp   Nov 22, 2011 - 2:11 AM
- - 95CelicaST   Feature is up! http://nw-built.com/?p=1977   Nov 28, 2011 - 2:04 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   great man. love that carbon fiber lip.   Nov 28, 2011 - 3:22 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Went back to the dyno today and have some good new...   Dec 5, 2011 - 7:16 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Well Mr. Two is going under the knife on Tuesday f...   Dec 24, 2011 - 9:22 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Got this picture from my tuner this evening. He sa...   Dec 28, 2011 - 10:46 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Before and After... I'll just leave this here....   Dec 29, 2011 - 4:55 PM
- - richee3   Holy huge torque difference...   Dec 29, 2011 - 7:14 PM
- - RabidTRD   Lmao. Have fun smoking tires. That thing must wh...   Dec 29, 2011 - 8:47 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Looks like final numbers are 185hp 201tq. I'll...   Dec 29, 2011 - 8:51 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Bam. Worst dyno run vs final... granted the first ...   Dec 29, 2011 - 9:33 PM
- - richee3   That's a lot of torque for an MR2. I bet passi...   Dec 29, 2011 - 10:49 PM
- - 95CelicaST   Oh sweet baby Jesus... So I went and picked up th...   Dec 30, 2011 - 7:32 PM
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