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post Apr 25, 2011 - 11:14 PM
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RE001 are porn, you should never cheap out on tyres if you plan on pushing your car around corners on public roads.


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post Apr 25, 2011 - 11:22 PM
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Aye no worries! not pushing her too much, I do this with my mazdaspeed...this car is crazy on corners!
I paid cheap but they're good and brand new, from Bridgestone...not cheap tyres made in china!
post Apr 26, 2011 - 1:21 AM
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Bridgestone Potenza RE001 is awesome, best tyre for the money around these parts.

If you can get it cheaper than Potenza, then the Toyo Proxes T1R are also good performers, so far have not managed to push the car hard enough to compare the limits of the two tyres. So both get a thumbs up from me.


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GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC
269awhp / 273ft-lbs
post Apr 26, 2011 - 2:03 AM
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Aye I've heard lots of good things about the potenza, never heard of the proxes though
post Apr 26, 2011 - 2:05 AM
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R1R, cmon ;p


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post Apr 26, 2011 - 2:32 AM
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QUOTE (whatthe @ Apr 26, 2011 - 3:05 AM) *
R1R, cmon ;p



seriously! I don't know crap about tyres...they fit or not, summer or winter tongue.gif
post Apr 26, 2011 - 2:39 AM
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R1R, RE001 are we comparing apples to oranges?

lol RE50 or RE55 I think? Not sure if the later is road legal, but Bridgestone have one down from their top high performance tyre which is road legal. It's way above the RE001 I'm not sure which one it is


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post Apr 26, 2011 - 2:48 AM
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T1R is Toyo's ultra high performance tyre in the affordable price bracket (when I mean affordable I don't really mean affordable but maybe 20% more than a cheapy but suitable for high performance)

RE001 is Bridgestone's equiv.

R1R is Toyo's racing tyre for the street and track, its much more expensive than T1R. It's one down from the all out circuit tyre the R888

As is RE050 to the RE055S in the Bridgestone range.

I'm also fond of the old Grid 3 range which Bridgestone had phased out with Potenza.

I've never followed any of the other brands, nor do I have experience with ice climates. Just all year round high performance sports tyres. But from what I've heard, in the Dunlop range Direzza is not the one to get, they have a higher grade high performance tyre equiv to the RE001 and T1R, but it's not in the Direzza range.


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GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC
269awhp / 273ft-lbs
post Apr 26, 2011 - 2:52 AM
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Lower than that range is the Touring type tyres, These give a quieter ride, more cushioned and less responsive, but still decent grip and wet weather performance. Great for long trips and A-to-B cars but undesirable for high performance driving.


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GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC
269awhp / 273ft-lbs
post Apr 26, 2011 - 4:25 AM
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Those Firestones are pretty average compared to RE001's, I'm not arguing a GT4 is close to a FWD Celica but I just think 50kph faster through a slow corner is a bit exaggerated, although saying that I do know that going to a good slick or even RE001's after having complete **** tyres, 20-30kph through a corner faster is not exaggerated, dunno much about those firestones though. Also a stock gt4 would have stiffer springs/anti-roll bars than an SS-II out of factory?

And you all aren't wrong there, RE001 are great tyres for the road and even track if needed be, not quite as good as RE050 but still good.

But thechildofthesea just make sure you get some better tyres next time, research them and if you want something really great, aim for a semi-slick, I remember being confused at the higher rate of speed I could can carry through a corner after I got a set of KUHMO KU36's, but they do wear at a ridiculous rate frown.gif.
post Apr 26, 2011 - 3:50 PM
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40-50kph sounds like alot, but you gotta remember, a gt4 finishes 2nd gear really fast and hit 3rd gear off the apex of a sharp corner that would generally have you riding 2nd gear 60kph 4000rpm waiting for the opening to come up to "bwaaaaaaaarrr" for a minute before even getting past 80kph, but its that point before the apex where you would get understeer, it would be a split second between the gt4 riding 80kph and hitting 100 at the limiter and changing gear.

So you're right in a way too that it is more like 20kph, but in saying that, i haven't found the limits of the gt4 because i'm not a race driver and i dont intend to drive the car at levels which i dont know that im safe at.

Whereas in the FWD, theres not a whole lot you can do, you either go round the corner, or you understeer off the road, but the best you can do is put your foot down and hope for the best.


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GT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC
269awhp / 273ft-lbs
post Apr 26, 2011 - 3:54 PM
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its the cars capability were discussing, not driver ability to master the various machines


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269awhp / 273ft-lbs
post Apr 27, 2011 - 12:55 PM
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What I'm doing right now is I always take the same corners and try to push a little more everyday. And so far the handling is great! Still haven't reached the cornering performance of the MSP

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