Rhode Island Project Celica Options

[Batman722]

here's some info about the clutch
and some info about the axle spacer

[Ted95]

well since you did the research then you already kno that Dr Tweak sells custom made clutches for this specific swap then right? for the 3sgte s54 combo

http://www.phoenixtuning.com/zenstore/inde...23pga15u24f7ac5

really depends on your power goals.. the s54 tranny is good up until like what 340whp guys? then is starts to reach its limit. its a shorter geared tranny as the e153 is a longer geared tranny and will hold up better in the long run. but to start off i would just go w the s54 and do the e153 down the road. its up to u.

research

This post has been edited by Ted95: May 23, 2011 - 11:05 AM

[Fate]

For the most part, any clutch company will make you a custom setup if you call the company directly and ask. As far as what clutch you choose, that is going to be based off personal preference and other experiences. Taken directly from my swap thread:

This week I also got my clutch in the mail. I decided to go with a SPEC Stage 3+ sprung full faced clutch. Even though I read a lot of bad with SPEC and the springs exploding..etc (all over mr2oc) I have a few friends running it with no problems. Plus, a lot of the exploding springs were on the 6 puck from what i could tell-too much free motion i suppose in the tranny. Also anyone looking to buy from SPEC directly, deal with Jeremy. He was nothing but help and was well aware of the combination we need for the 5sfe transmission (3sgte pressure plate, 5sfe clutch, 5sfe throwout bearing and alignment tool).

I hate to beat a dead horse, but simply glazing over this thread it is clear that you need to do more research. You'd be amazed how many topics cover the same questions you're asking and they are answered with great detail. I do understand wanting to get an answer immediately, especially when in the process of the swap itself, but you are still in the planning phases. Take the time now to read/take notes so that you don't end up stuck later on waiting on a reply that will be brief and undetailed since it was most likely answered years ago. The amount of knowledge on present day 6gc.net about the different swaps is amazing. When i first joined the site, there were a select few (lagos, dg performance) that had swapped 2nd gen's because 3rd gens were just way too expensive ($5,000++). Take advantage of the site and everything it has to offer.

[LimitedGT4]

here's some info about the clutch
and some info about the axle spacer

this is useful info

thanks man

ive read most of it tho, the problem i had was reading in other forums and this one
there is differences in opinions and i was trying to sort out through opinion,
recommendations and actual useful info. also this clarification is great

[LimitedGT4]

well since you did the research then you already kno that Dr Tweak sells custom made clutches for this specific swap then right? for the 3sgte s54 combo

http://www.phoenixtuning.com/zenstore/inde...23pga15u24f7ac5

really depends on your power goals.. the s54 tranny is good up until like what 340whp guys? then is starts to reach its limit. its a shorter geared tranny as the e153 is a longer geared tranny and will hold up better in the long run. but to start off i would just go w the s54 and do the e153 down the road. its up to u.

research

yea ive been to that page thats how i knew about the wiring harness and forgive me for not knowing everything thats on the page as i didnt go through every single section to verify absolutely everything he has on the website man.

thanks for pointing it out tho

[LimitedGT4]

For the most part, any clutch company will make you a custom setup if you call the company directly and ask. As far as what clutch you choose, that is going to be based off personal preference and other experiences. Taken directly from my swap thread:

This week I also got my clutch in the mail. I decided to go with a SPEC Stage 3+ sprung full faced clutch. Even though I read a lot of bad with SPEC and the springs exploding..etc (all over mr2oc) I have a few friends running it with no problems. Plus, a lot of the exploding springs were on the 6 puck from what i could tell-too much free motion i suppose in the tranny. Also anyone looking to buy from SPEC directly, deal with Jeremy. He was nothing but help and was well aware of the combination we need for the 5sfe transmission (3sgte pressure plate, 5sfe clutch, 5sfe throwout bearing and alignment tool).

I hate to beat a dead horse, but simply glazing over this thread it is clear that you need to do more research. You'd be amazed how many topics cover the same questions you're asking and they are answered with great detail. I do understand wanting to get an answer immediately, especially when in the process of the swap itself, but you are still in the planning phases. Take the time now to read/take notes so that you don't end up stuck later on waiting on a reply that will be brief and undetailed since it was most likely answered years ago. The amount of knowledge on present day 6gc.net about the different swaps is amazing. When i first joined the site, there were a select few (lagos, dg performance) that had swapped 2nd gen's because 3rd gens were just way too expensive ($5,000++). Take advantage of the site and everything it has to offer.

and theres also that much more useless ones that just bring confusion and misunderstanding
therefore i NEED to ask to clear the confusion that too much reading causes.

its better to get a straight forward answer plus to be honest most of my questions have not been answered in any post and i loo more for opinions than answers as i post what i understand and ask if its rights so nope you better read the post again as you my friend need to read better and not speed read

[LimitedGT4]

ok guys, last topic on the tranny this is whats gonnamke my mind up
so i did some figures to see which one is more reasonable for what am getting


this is a price compare list all prices are roundabouts


Comparison

E-153 mr2 turbo

tranny = 300-750
GT4 shifter cables = have it
3sgte disk = 300-450
3sgte pressure plate=
3sgte flywheel= have it
axles= 200-400 batman said st185/mr2 combo would st205/mr2 combo work? remmbr have a frnt clip
gt4 tranny mount= have it

total = 800-1500



GT tranny or 3SGE = 300
GT shifter cables= ?? 20-50 ??
5sfe/3sge disk kit = 400
3sgte flywheel = have it
5sfe Axels= 200
GT mounts= 250-400
total = 1100-1500


from what im seein the e153 could potentially be more cost effective for me if not the same as the gt tranny

what are your thoughts? did i miss something? my estimates off?

dont need lectures or do research comments, if your not gonna give usefull feedback dont leave any
all i need is verification of my estimates

[Ted95]

ultimately.. the E153 is the way to go if you can find one. around my area they are a lil hard to come by but the GT tranny isnt to hard to find for me, thats why i recommended the s54 tranny. but if you can find the E153 for a good price, then go for it. everything seems to be in the right "ball park" for estimates.

[LimitedGT4]

ultimately.. the E153 is the way to go if you can find one. around my area they are a lil hard to come by but the GT tranny isnt to hard to find for me, thats why i recommended the s54 tranny. but if you can find the E153 for a good price, then go for it. everything seems to be in the right "ball park" for estimates.

thanks, do you know if the st205 axles have been used succesfully? i havent looked deep into this but havent seen anythin conclusive any ideas?

[Ted95]

ultimately.. the E153 is the way to go if you can find one. around my area they are a lil hard to come by but the GT tranny isnt to hard to find for me, thats why i recommended the s54 tranny. but if you can find the E153 for a good price, then go for it. everything seems to be in the right "ball park" for estimates.

thanks, do you know if the st205 axles have been used succesfully? i havent looked deep into this but havent seen anythin conclusive any ideas?

not 100% sure and dont wanna give you false info but check at the bottom of dustins (batmans) first post on his swap thread and i believe it says what he used, which is what most people use for that tranny combo. click on his profile and theres a link on his profile to his thread.

[LimitedGT4]

ultimately.. the E153 is the way to go if you can find one. around my area they are a lil hard to come by but the GT tranny isnt to hard to find for me, thats why i recommended the s54 tranny. but if you can find the E153 for a good price, then go for it. everything seems to be in the right "ball park" for estimates.

thanks, do you know if the st205 axles have been used succesfully? i havent looked deep into this but havent seen anythin conclusive any ideas?

not 100% sure and dont wanna give you false info but check at the bottom of dustins (batmans) first post on his swap thread and i believe it says what he used, which is what most people use for that tranny combo. click on his profile and theres a link on his profile to his thread.

yea he already told me st185 alltrac outers, but i would like to know if i could use my st205 outers save some money and time money i can spend elsewhere
plus i wanna transpalnt most of my st205 parts like the discs breaks suspension and anything else to make it as bolt on as possible, maybe i should jus look into the diff between the axles in the st185 and the st205

[Batman722]

no you cannot use the st205 axles, they are completely different and will not work with either tranny.
If you could of used them I would of posted that.

[LimitedGT4]

yea i figured that everythin is worth givin a try tho.
like i said b4 ill jus go with what works, but also trying
to use as many parts off my clip as possible to not
have alot of things left behind so bear with me

what would be the best place to get them? as much as to not get junk parts that will break quick
junkyard? havent heard many possitives new is always better right anyone have good experiences?
forums? might take a while
shop? do they even havem? anyone know? maybe if am lucky theyll have one side? lol
ebay? eeeehhhhhh it works? anything to look out for to get the right part?

the spacer ive read of getting it not much of where or how? any specifics? do i gotta buy somethin else? or is it within the 4 axles?

is non lsd even worth it? lol everyone says go lsd opinions?

ill probably hunt the tranny down by this weekend as well as other parts

what CAN i use out of the awd tranny? cables, rear mount,flywheel? some say you have to get it resurfaced
am i missing somethin?

regular turbo clutch or stage 3 or 6 puck
i know what they do but if i plan on not going up on HP or boost do i really need a 6 puck? probably not dont need a lecture
looking more for experiences of how a stock turbo clutch holds compared to a stage 3 or above

[mkernz22]

Nothing can be used out of the AWD tranny if you are only going to be make it a FWD. The shifter cables are different, clutch and flywheel are different, mounts are different. The axles you can pick up from autozone. I got mine for about $180 and that's after the core charges were dropped. So if you don't have axles to give to them, you're looking upwards of $225 for both axles. Not to mention, you do not want to have drum brakes in the rear after you do the swap.

This post has been edited by mkernz22: May 25, 2011 - 9:04 AM

[LimitedGT4]

Nothing can be used out of the AWD tranny if you are only going to be make it a FWD. The shifter cables are different, clutch and flywheel are different, mounts are different. The axles you can pick up from autozone. I got mine for about $180 and that's after the core charges were dropped. So if you don't have axles to give to them, you're looking upwards of $225 for both axles. Not to mention, you do not want to have drum brakes in the rear after you do the swap.

I though the rear mount off the gt4 was used for the e153 tranny and the gt4 cables now am confused anyways mike pm me ur number if u dont mind so i can reach u quicker wen i finally get the wing off lol

[Fate]

for the e153, you do in fact use the rear mount off the st205 trans along with the shifter cables.

[LimitedGT4]

How good does the stock mr2 turbo xlutch hold?
I want personal experiences

[Ted95]

How good does the stock mr2 turbo xlutch hold?
I want personal experiences

that depends on your power goals.. i hate to say this bro but theres alot of research to be done and alot of these answers to these questions are in the stickies..

first step bro.. is pick a tranny, once you pick a tranny then we can help you bc alot of these questions depends on which tranny your going to use. theres certain things you need and dont need for each combo. pick a tranny then we can help lol other wise we will b spinning u in circles and you will get more and more confused and have a hard time with your swap.

[LimitedGT4]

How good does the stock mr2 turbo xlutch hold?
I want personal experiences

that depends on your power goals.. i hate to say this bro but theres alot of research to be done and alot of these answers to these questions are in the stickies..

first step bro.. is pick a tranny, once you pick a tranny then we can help you bc alot of these questions depends on which tranny your going to use. theres certain things you need and dont need for each combo. pick a tranny then we can help lol other wise we will b spinning u in circles and you will get more and more confused and have a hard time with your swap.

Again friend thanks for the input but read closely and u will see i chose the mr2
Tranny cus it would cost just about the same again my questions are unique
Am not looking for how a stock clutch is ddifferent from an after market or
How tge clutch stages differ and all thati wanna know
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE NOT THEORY OR FACTS EXPERIENCES
Of how the clutch holds up again read closely i said im not going to
Go crazy on boost so im staying at the stock power
Im looking for people that have used the stock clutch and can say its good
Stick with it or it sucks better get an aftermarket u find a post that specifically
Answers my question just link it as batman did and dont say anythin else
Ive obviously looked n i dnt plan to spend or have the time to spend10 hours
For somethin someone can answer in 10 secs

Thanks for your contribution

[Batman722]

I'm out.