my SHEMA for error54, dont mind Options

[Needles]

can someone tell me where should the wire whit red arrow should be plug, its for code 54 fix imitate the inc water pump







i am hook up like this right now behind the cpu and need help

This post has been edited by Needles: Oct 14, 2011 - 12:59 PM

[DG_Performance]

Here is a link I found real quick might help u.
http://www.gt4dc.co.uk/info/howto/205_fmic...mic_code_54.htm


This post has been edited by DG_Performance: Jul 11, 2011 - 7:17 PM

[Needles]

thanks, its useful, but i dont have the connector, only couple of wire from the harness, i just need to know in the shema if the B there is the B+ from ecu ?
so i tap my wire into that B+, i need to be sure

This post has been edited by Needles: Jul 12, 2011 - 5:12 AM

[DG_Performance]

i cant give you a 100% where it should go yet im still in process of doing my own gen 3 wiring harness now. I would guess from the diagram the black/white wire would be at the EA1 plug! All those other wires with the above colors in that diagram come off of sthe sides of the EA1 plug and they ARE ic pump related!...but i cant say for sure yet since i did not get to that part of my swap yet. I should know within a few days here since im going to have to do this mod too so i dont get that code 54.

This post has been edited by DG_Performance: Jul 13, 2011 - 9:09 AM

[alex1981]

Here is a link I found real quick might help u.
http://www.gt4dc.co.uk/info/howto/205_fmic...mic_code_54.htm

Thats interesting! I was wondering how I fix those! The charge cooler level looks easy...the pump not so easy!

I hope you dont mind me butting in being an annoying newbie and tell me to bugger off if you want to! But...

The first step is to link the charge cooler level sensor pins together in the plug that used to connect to the charge cooler. There are a number of ways of doing this ranging from a simple piece of wire securely inserted into the loom plug to the removal of the plug and direct connection of the loom wires.

Where do I find the charge cooler plug? I did nt take out the FMIC so I have no idea where everything went? Will it be dangling about somewhere? Where abouts? What des the connector look like (other than having two pins!)

[DG_Performance]

old post too for eliminating the pump and wiring it with a relay ...
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=55596

also: chargecooler fluid level sensor plug this link shows some pics of the plug
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=23139

[96stgreendemon]

Ok so im a little confused on the whereabouts of this sensor... i cant seem to find it on my engine harness or is it part of the body harness?

[DG_Performance]

Back to the main topic ... this is for swapped gen 3 people who want to eliminate the code 54. Keep in mind u will have to convert your lower ea1 plug and insert the pins that would normally be missing on the gt or st wiring. Or u can just wire it all direct to the upper ea1 plug but I like things to be plug and play.
Use this link to get the wiring diagram:
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=55596
Im doing the above mentioned "relay diagram mod" directly wired into the EA1 lower Plug! Below is how im doing it.
The only missing info is the color codes im listing below to make finding the correct wires easy on plug EA1

M+ is a Grey/Blue Ea1 Pin#11
M- is a Grey/Green Ea1 Pin#17
E is a White/Black Ea1 Pin#2
INT is a Blue Ea1 Pin#1
MTT is a Grey/Black Ea1 Pin#8
B is a Black/White EA1 Pin#10

This post has been edited by DG_Performance: Jul 17, 2011 - 8:17 PM

[Cuts_the_Pilot]

In the stock car the intercooler level sensor is obviously on top of the intercooler. And the intercooler water pump is behind the front bar inside the passenger side guard.

GT4DC explanation


The next person who asks this question without doing a search im going to punch in the jugular.

This post has been edited by Cuts_the_Pilot: Jul 17, 2011 - 12:48 AM

[alex1981]

Haha!

Anyone fancy making and selling one of these...no oubt if I did it, it would be rubbish!

[alex1981]

OK...I hope you dont mind me butting in and posting! Tell me if I overstep the mark!

I assume that this is the correct plug that needs to be bridged for the charge cooler level sensor as it is in the correct place...



This is the bit that confuses me slightly...the cconnector for the water pump...I think its this one..as you say, behind where the airbox would be, above the fuel filter...



Where I am a little confused is that this seems to have a connector on it...which suggests that its still connected to the pump...unless those wires have simply been chopped at the pump end? Can anyone tell me where the charge cooler pump is? Tried chasing the wires back but it dissapears into the unknown!

I also have this connector dangling about, which is near the front of the engine bay near the downpipe and a few inches from the radiator....any ideas? Has someone made a mess of my wiring?



This post has been edited by alex1981: Jul 17, 2011 - 5:09 PM

[DG_Performance]

Alex the first plug is the fluid sensor And is bridged already.
The second plug is a resistor plug from what I see.
The third looks like maybe the egt plug.
If u have a st205 car all u need to do is the pump plug mod

This post has been edited by DG_Performance: Jul 17, 2011 - 9:38 PM

[Needles]

In the stock car the intercooler level sensor is obviously on top of the intercooler. And the intercooler water pump is behind the front bar inside the passenger side guard.

GT4DC explanation


The next person who asks this question without doing a search im going to punch in the jugular.

god damitt !1 ppl dont uinderstand lol
NO ONE GTS SWAPPER CARES ABOUT THE SENSOR PLUG, its on the chargecooler and iys works well most off time,
this threat is about THE WATER PUMP ELECTRIC and bypass the cpu to give it the correct voltage,


so , all the sensor guy, dont post here...

now , im thinking if the b is only the 12volt from positive....

[alex1981]

Alex the first plug is the fluid sensor And is bridged already.
The second plug is a resistor plug from what I see.
The third looks like maybe the egt plug.
If u have a st205 car all u need to do is the pump plug mod

Cheers! Yeah should have thought...fairly obvious looking at it now that the first plug is bridged.
So the second plug is not the one for the pump then...I will keep looking
3rd plug...ah ok, I assume I dont need that then
Yup, ST205 ... just need to find the right plug to mod!

This post has been edited by alex1981: Jul 18, 2011 - 1:45 AM

[DG_Performance]

I did the relay mod tied direct into EA1 and it did the trick. Worked out great!

[Needles]

I did the relay mod tied direct into EA1 and it did the trick. Worked out great!

how ????
i dont understand the int now...how this one should be plug ?
can you dgperformance put a drawing of it plz

i have all the wire

i think you dindt use the diagram up there cause there is no int on it?
can you explain what you did excatly, whit the int and m+,
thanks


there is no B in this one

there is no int here




This post has been edited by Needles: Jul 20, 2011 - 11:53 AM

[DG_Performance]

Each diagram has a different way to wire a fix. It will work the same either way u do it. Depending on if u actually have a gt4 or u just did the swap and don't have the ic pump plug determines what is best for you. The relay mod is for people who did the swap! The other way is if u have the stock car wiring and access to the ic pump plug itself! Understand now?

update:
in the first diagram 12v+ coming into the relay is kinda acting as the the B signal (with the help of the relay) .
you dont need the INT wire in the second diagram cause wiring is happening at the "ic pump plug" only!!!

This post has been edited by DG_Performance: Jul 20, 2011 - 1:37 PM

[Needles]

Each diagram has a different way to wire a fix. It will work the same either way u do it. Depending on if u actually have a gt4 or u just did the swap and don't have the ic pump plug determines what is best for you. The relay mod is for people who did the swap! The other way is if u have the stock car wiring and access to the ic pump plug itself! Understand now?

lol right understood where can i find these relay ? (or switch in the diagram, i did the swap on a gts ,

85, 87, 86, 30

This post has been edited by Needles: Jul 20, 2011 - 1:35 PM

[DG_Performance]

i got mine at radioshack...along with the protective electrical connectors that fit it perfectly! SOme places have a harness kit with that plugs right into the relay which makes it super easy. any electronics or auto store should have them. Make sure the one you buy is for 12V DC application!

[alex1981]

I am struggling to find the pump plug let alone anything else - what an idiot! I am used to fixing 1960s Land Rovers with little electronics! I dont suppose someone can post a picture of an engine bay with an arrow of where it is? Or a picture of the connector or something.