car just overheated, help please!! Options

[MangJavs]

So me and my friend had a stupid idea to try and color my valve cover. So after the deed was done we drove it from Garland to Dalllas and when we got to the destination the engine was smoking and we tried to put oil in again so we could get home. Then we got home it ran out of oil again. My question is, what happened to make it go like that?

[caribou17]

So me and my friend had a stupid idea to try and color my valve cover. So after the deed was done we drove it from Garland to Dalllas and when we got to the destination the engine was smoking and we tried to put oil in again so we could get home. Then we got home it ran out of oil again. My question is, what happened to make it go like that?

Did you replace the valve cover seal?

[delusionz]

+ did you evenly torque down the valve cover nuts at 17 ft-lb using a torque wrench?

+ did you reconnect the breather lines properly?

[MangJavs]

i didn't replace any parts just the one tube where it connects to the EFA thing because we couldn't return the old tube. also, as far as i recall, we torqued down the valve cover nuts properly. thanks guys for responding so fast. also if it helps the oil leak is at the back of the engine.

[trdproven]

+ did you evenly torque down the valve cover nuts at 17 ft-lb using a torque wrench?

+ did you reconnect the breather lines properly?

is the 17ft lbs from Haynes/chilton's or the BGB manual?

This post has been edited by trdproven: Jul 19, 2012 - 2:45 AM

[caribou17]

So me and my friend had a stupid idea to try and color my valve cover. So after the deed was done we drove it from Garland to Dalllas and when we got to the destination the engine was smoking and we tried to put oil in again so we could get home. Then we got home it ran out of oil again. My question is, what happened to make it go like that?

I don't know a lot about the 6gc yet but i just took my valve cover off yesterday and replaced the rubber seal that goes around it, got it for about 15$, i dont really see what could have went wrong since you had no problems before,,,,Is it leaking from around the cover at the back?

[MangJavs]

yeah i think that's the problem, the rubber seal around the cover. Do you know where i can get a replacement?

[caribou17]

yeah i think that's the problem, the rubber seal around the cover. Do you know where i can get a replacement?

Any auto parts store should have one, I live in canada and i live right by a Lordco Store so thats where i went

[travisxcore]

yeah i think that's the problem, the rubber seal around the cover. Do you know where i can get a replacement?

...I almost think you're trolling...Its called a valve cover seal. Go to AutoZone or wherever (I'd do Toyota cause nothing beats their quality) and get one.

Just a heads up, ANY time you take apart something that is sealed with a rubber gasket, you HAVE to replace it with a new one. There is no if and or but.

That being said, if you don't even know that or the fact that almost every part of a motor has to be torqued specifically and that you have to replace gaskets you shouldn't be taking your motor apart; even if its something as simple as a valve cover. You're so lucky you didn't mess something up and I'd be extremely upset to see a 6th Gen get trashed cause you wanted to paint the valve cover. I'm not trying to be mean but its the truth.

[Special_Edy]

Actually rubber gaskets are usually reusable. Its cork gaskets which swell and therefor must always be replaced.

Anyways Im headed to Longview this evening so I can stop and take a look at it if you shoot me a text before then. The number is (682)-560-5106 and my name is Edward. I'll probably take I-20 but 30 is on the way too.

This post has been edited by Special_Edy: Jul 19, 2012 - 12:31 PM

[MangJavs]

Thanks for everything guys. Yeah I know I don't know a lot about motors and stuff that's why we tried to do something that seemed simple. Well I learn from experience and this is a good one

[trdproven]

Actually rubber gaskets are usually reusable. Its cork gaskets which swell and therefor must always be replaced.

Anyways Im headed to Longview this evening so I can stop and take a look at it if you shoot me a text before then. The number is (682)-560-5106 and my name is Edward. I'll probably take I-20 but 30 is on the way too.

rubber gaskets can be reused but it has to be in really good condition and sometimes the first install just destroys or smashes it too much to be reused. plus it cant be dry and crackly. but for me, personally i prefer a new one.

make sure you put FIPG/RTV on those humps before you put on the new gasket.

[Smaay]

yeah i think that's the problem, the rubber seal around the cover. Do you know where i can get a replacement?

...I almost think you're trolling...Its called a valve cover seal. Go to AutoZone or wherever (I'd do Toyota cause nothing beats their quality) and get one.

Just a heads up, ANY time you take apart something that is sealed with a rubber gasket, you HAVE to replace it with a new one. There is no if and or but.

That being said, if you don't even know that or the fact that almost every part of a motor has to be torqued specifically and that you have to replace gaskets you shouldn't be taking your motor apart; even if its something as simple as a valve cover. You're so lucky you didn't mess something up and I'd be extremely upset to see a 6th Gen get trashed cause you wanted to paint the valve cover. I'm not trying to be mean but its the truth.

so if i put a new valve cover gasket on yesterday, then i took it off again today, then i need to replace it? dude your statement is so bad! you do NOT NOT NOT have to replace a gasket every time.

only if its dry rotted, brittle and hard, or cracked do you need to replace it. if its still soft and rubbery, then its fine.

[MangJavs]

another thing is that when we put the valve cover back, we didn't put any sealant so is it the reason why the oil was leaking? this is my first car with no experience what so ever so please forgive my stupid questions.

[Special_Edy]

another thing is that when we put the valve cover back, we didn't put any sealant so is it the reason why the oil was leaking? this is my first car with no experience what so ever so please forgive my stupid questions.

Alldatapro told me to FIPG or rtv the half moon humps on the head when I installed the camshafts. I didnt use any on the valve cover gasket or the twenty times Ive had the valve cover off since. Ive reused the gasket so many times but it still seals perfect everytime.

[MangJavs]

So my oil is leaking because the valve cover wasn't placed properly or the rubber seal needs to be replaced?

[Box]

Hypothetically let's say his valve cover has never been removed, which can easily be the case. Since there wasn't a problem before hand, what it sounds like. Just wipe both surfaces clean of where the gasket sits before putting the new gasket in.

This post has been edited by Box: Jul 20, 2012 - 12:25 AM

[delusionz]

my first celica had the 3sfe engine (identical to yours but 2.0l) and it always had a slow leak on the backside of the engine,

i took off valve cover and painted it, put a new valve cover gasket and it still leaked some (probably slightly warped being a high milage engine) so i just silicone sealed it and that was it fixed.

[JohanFer]

Sorry guys for this question, but I am new to engines in cars. Weeks ago I read a thread similar to this where the temperature was raising and lowering like crazy in an engine (something similar to what happens to me at times). There, somebody suggested that the valve cover gasket could be the source of the problem. Well, now I see that this thread is about an overheating problem where obviously the valve cover gasket is the problem because of the excessive amount of oil being leaked.

So is there a connection between these two, leak in the valve cover and overheating? I tell you this because I want to solve my own overheating problem, which is not regular but happens at times. I took my car to the dealer and they told me that there was a significant amount of oil in the undercarriage at bottom of the engine and they didn't know where it came from (never taking the car there again). And every time I park my car I get this smell of oil being overheated or burnt oil. Now, I've recently realized that there is an oil leak that, although is not significant, is constant because I dropped a temperature sensor by accident and that little well made by the engine (by the middle) had new engine oil, so it is not old oil accumulated throughout the years.

I've done the usual to the car such as changing the water pump, thermostat, timing belt and the works, and am in the process of changing both temperature sensors to make sure they're not faulty, and lastly replace the radiator, but If a leak in the valve cover could result in overheating, then I think that that might solve the problem. Any input on this?

[Galcobar]

Ignition timing which is off may cause overheating. The ignition system can be impaired by oil leaking into the distributor, fouling the contacts.

To be clear, there are two oil seals on the distributor.

There is an O-ring around the shaft of the distributor which seals the opening in the cylinder head into which the distributor is inserted. This is very easily corrected, but while messy is unlikely to cause any mechanical problems other than perhaps degrading an axle or steering boot.

The second seal is within the distributor itself. It keeps oil from creeping up the interior of the shaft and into the distributor cap. To replace this seal requires rebuilding the distributor, which can be done at home with hand tools. http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthrea...tos!!** A temporary fix is to remove the cap and clean it and the rotor, removing the oil which may interfere with the contacts.