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Jan 16, 2004 - 9:48 AM

SpedToe169

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I have some great reading for you as well... read this thread... it explains WITH PHYSICS how the Electric Turbo will NOT work...

PHYSICS! *GASP* You shall be hanged in the square for your devil talk!

5 words guys....Law of Conservation of Energy. Aka the 1st law of Thermodynamics.....ok now study amongst yourselves.

A very wise car guy once said of a new street car part, "Have they ever used that in F1? No? Then it aint worth shlt."

Jan 16, 2004 - 11:20 AM

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You people who say electric turbos are physically impossible are talking out your ass. How can you say something is impossible?

I agree that those ebay turbos are a waste of time.. but electric turbos aren't.

Maybe so if you are talking about electric fans (powered by the engine or batteries). What about high powered electro magnets .. which required practically no power. What about frictionless turbines/air compressors/things not invented or tried yet?. What about the next 50-100 years of car/engine evolution? Do you honestly think that we will be using mechanically driven "boosters" in the future?

When these techniques (turbo and superchargers) were created we barely understood electricity and any of it's uses. I honestly believe that old style turbo and superchargers will be replaced by new forms of boost some time in the future. Although as soon as the combustion engine is replaced newer turbo's will likely die anyway so it's probably a race against time.

The only thing that has slowed this evolution down, is computer management. To be able to alter flow speed electronically (and more recently to do this cheaply) instead of mechanically. I am by no means an engineer or scientist, but talk to one, and they'll agree with me.

I would like to see one dynoed, who knows we all could be wrong and they might work. I do agree that current engines in the next 5-10 yrs will start become extinct. Right now the move is toward hybrids and I don't think you can put a standard super charger on those, electric is the is the future is headed.

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Jan 16, 2004 - 4:48 PM

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QUOTE (KAMiX @ Jan 16, 2004 - 12:23 AM)

You people who say electric turbos are physically impossible are talking out your ass. How can you say something is impossible?

I agree that those ebay turbos are a waste of time.. but electric turbos aren't.

Maybe so if you are talking about electric fans (powered by the engine or batteries). What about high powered electro magnets .. which required practically no power. What about frictionless turbines/air compressors/things not invented or tried yet?. What about the next 50-100 years of car/engine evolution? Do you honestly think that we will be using mechanically driven "boosters" in the future?

When these techniques (turbo and superchargers) were created we barely understood electricity and any of it's uses. I honestly believe that old style turbo and superchargers will be replaced by new forms of boost some time in the future. Although as soon as the combustion engine is replaced newer turbo's will likely die anyway so it's probably a race against time.

The only thing that has slowed this evolution down, is computer management. To be able to alter flow speed electronically (and more recently to do this cheaply) instead of mechanically. I am by no means an engineer or scientist, but talk to one, and they'll agree with me.

dude read the ****in page, your just repeating **** me and others already said! And high powered electro magnets that require little power?? Whos talking out of there ass now? A powerful enough electro magnet which by the way is how electric motors work will need way too much energy to operate, like i said above. If there was a way with current mainsteam technology to produce a working ET then they would already be on the market! And like I said nothing is impossible only improbable. Why the hell would turbo's die out, they use energy otherwise wasted by the combustion cycle, so why the **** would something so practical die out? maybe the reason the ET doesnt exist is because there is no need for it, theres so many reasons its just impractical and unnessecary to exist.

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Jan 16, 2004 - 6:04 PM

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Why the hell would turbo's die out, they use energy otherwise wasted by the combustion cycle, so why the **** would something so practical die out?

Read my post. I said turbo's would die out once there is a replacement for the combustion engine. I agree 100% that electric turbos are a waste of time atm, I said that in my post.. I just think that there will probably be new technologies in the future.

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Jan 16, 2004 - 6:09 PM
boosted_K2 View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	your gunna need a chemistry/electrical engineering degrees to tune cars in the future rather than a mechanical engineering and electrical engineering degrees. -------------------- Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial

Jan 16, 2004 - 6:31 PM

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QUOTE (KAMiX @ Jan 16, 2004 - 4:04 PM)

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Why the hell would turbo's die out, they use energy otherwise wasted by the combustion cycle, so why the **** would something so practical die out?

Read my post. I said turbo's would die out once there is a replacement for the combustion engine. I agree 100% that electric turbos are a waste of time atm, I said that in my post.. I just think that there will probably be new technologies in the future.

ya man but why would you need an electric turbo on anything else then a internal combustion engine?

but you may be right, who knows what the future holds for car power plants. And sorry for being a dick, long day at a job I hate!!!

Jan 16, 2004 - 6:34 PM

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QUOTE (boosted_K2 @ Jan 16, 2004 - 4:09 PM)

your gunna need a chemistry/electrical engineering degrees to tune cars in the future rather than a mechanical engineering and electrical engineering degrees.

no **** man, with hydrogen fuel cells, and electric cars its going to be a whole new ball game, almost a shame but i guess we'll get used to it

Jan 17, 2004 - 4:12 AM
celimanST View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '03 From mississippi Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	I have heard conflicting stories about these things and I think if it does work Celica STs will benifit greatly. I know I wish I had more HP. CelimanST

Jan 18, 2004 - 1:30 AM
celimanST View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '03 From mississippi Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)	Somebody needs to pop for one of these and dyno it them selves and post the results. Do we have anyone willing to do it? CelimanST

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