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post Jan 20, 2013 - 4:39 PM
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Syaoran



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So I bought a new 5S-FE engine for a total of $963. It's the newer 5S-FE which comes with various upgrades, some of which include a crank angle sensor, cam angle sensor and 2 coils for a distributorless ignition.

I'll put some pics with descriptions where necessary, and I've found this is the engine to buy and build if you're going the 5S-FE route, be it N/A or F/I, or 5S-GTE. It's more EMS-friendly than the older engines, I'll explain why with the pics.


Even though the newer engine is better in some things, the older ones are better in others. Here are the fuel rails side-by-side.



As you can see, the injectors are the same. However if you look closely, the new 98+ rail is returnless (as it came in the engine I bought, they had 2 and both were the same). It is also smaller, much smaller.


Returnless systems are worse than ones with return because the AFRs are less stable. The return system basically uses the fuel pressure regulator to keep the system feeding fuel to the engine more constantly. Ideally you'd install an adjustable FPR, but in my case that won't be necessary for the time being. The stock FPR I believe runs at 43.5PSI of pressure which is good enough.



Here's one of the more important pics:



That is the crank angle sensor wheel. I consulted with a friend of mine who has experience with these, and he told me it's a 36-2 wheel. It's missing 2 consecutive teeth. The beginning and end of that longer tooth slightly protrude, so you can count 32 separate teeth plus 2 on that longer one, and it's missing another two.

The engine I bought also has this:



That's a cam angle sensor with a single tooth. I'm not sure what the tooth indicates the sensor (camshaft position) but I believe it is either TDC or several degrees BTDC.


Here are the coils:



They're 2, 1 for each 2 spark plugs. They have 4 wires and I believe they are power, ground, signal and spark confirmation. I have to consult a wiring diagram to confirm that.

That's it for now, I'll add more pics as I go through the engine. You can request any pics you'd like.


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1993 Celica GT Coupe - sold
1994 Celica GT Liftback

Posts in this topic
- Syaoran   98+ 5S-FE picture thread.   Jan 20, 2013 - 4:39 PM
- - mi645   weird i have a 99 celica gt california and it does...   Jan 20, 2013 - 7:14 PM
- - Syaoran   It means this engine is from a Camry 4th gen, not ...   Jan 20, 2013 - 7:58 PM
- - TRDweaponX   What are your plans with this engine? I have the 5...   Jan 20, 2013 - 8:29 PM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (TRDweaponX @ Jan 20, 2013 - 9...   Jan 20, 2013 - 9:12 PM
- - TRDweaponX   Gude performance makes a head/cam/intake manifold/...   Jan 20, 2013 - 9:21 PM
- - Smaay   they look like return rails to me and your informa...   Jan 21, 2013 - 12:27 AM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (Smaay @ Jan 21, 2013 - 1:27 A...   Jan 21, 2013 - 10:36 AM
|- - Smaay   QUOTE (Syaoran @ Jan 21, 2013 - 7:36...   Jan 21, 2013 - 1:03 PM
- - Syaoran   I plan on boosting which is why I'm keeping th...   Jan 21, 2013 - 8:50 PM
- - Smaay   smart man   Jan 21, 2013 - 10:57 PM
- - Syaoran   The main difference.... left is 5S, right is 3S.   Feb 1, 2013 - 12:47 AM
- - Syaoran   I haven't updated this in a while, but I just ...   Mar 15, 2013 - 1:19 AM
- - delusionz   sounds like an awesome bottom end your building th...   Mar 15, 2013 - 1:47 AM
- - Tigawoods   darn....you are just made it easier for me to go E...   Mar 15, 2013 - 6:31 AM
- - Syaoran   QUOTE (delusionz @ Mar 15, 2013 - 2...   Mar 15, 2013 - 11:09 AM
- - Syaoran   Time to update this thread after a long time of le...   Jul 13, 2013 - 4:11 AM
- - Tigawoods   thank you for researching all of this so I dont ha...   Jul 13, 2013 - 6:49 AM
- - Syaoran   You're welcome. There's not enough info on...   Jul 13, 2013 - 7:14 AM
- - presure2   with all the work put into the bottom end of this ...   Jul 13, 2013 - 7:34 AM
|- - Syaoran   QUOTE (presure2 @ Jul 13, 2013 - 8:3...   Jul 13, 2013 - 11:33 PM
- - presure2   agreed, 100%. that was one of the advantages i had...   Jul 14, 2013 - 9:10 AM
|- - 6strngs   Updates?   Sep 19, 2013 - 4:33 PM
- - Syaoran   Thanks for the kind words. Hoping to finish this s...   Jul 15, 2013 - 1:17 AM
- - Syaoran   Updates in relation to my car are in my build thre...   Sep 19, 2013 - 7:36 PM


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