 Smaay ! V6 vs. Beams, Let's do this ! |
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 Oct 2, 2013 - 2:51 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
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/thread -------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Oct 2, 2013 - 3:22 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
In all seriousness is this thread going somewhere? We are clearly divided. And not 1 side has come up with the holy grail answer.
Everyone has valid points. But no one is winning the debate. Looks more like a session of congress here. Swap whatever you like and call it yours. Whatever it is, if you believe you make the right choice then go on with life. If you dont like it then swap again. Who cares? Unless its the person paying your bills... Or else just list your car on ebay several times until someone buys it. Peace guys.... I will say, never has there been so much participation of members. Here is my real stance..... I will be back.... -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Oct 2, 2013 - 3:22 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 9, '05 From Modesto, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I do have a 1MZ swap in my MR2. I've also driven a BEAMs MR2. It's NOT a bad engine. It's fun. Just no torque. Reminds me of a Honda engine.
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Oct 2, 2013 - 3:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Oct 2, 2013 - 3:22 PM)  Or else just list your car on ebay several times until someone buys it. That's right, rack up more in listing fees that what the car is even worth. 
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Oct 2, 2013 - 3:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 6, '04 From Charlotte, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Oct 2, 2013 - 4:22 PM) In all seriousness is this thread going somewhere? We are clearly divided. And not 1 side has come up with the holy grail answer. Everyone has valid points. But no one is winning the debate. Looks more like a session of congress here. Swap whatever you like and call it yours. Whatever it is, if you believe you make the right choice then go on with life. If you dont like it then swap again. Who cares? Unless its the person paying your bills... Or else just list your car on ebay several times until someone buys it. Peace guys.... I will say, never has there been so much participation of members. Here is my real stance..... I will be back.... Believe it when I see it, 'Berto! -------------------- Has no more Celicas
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Oct 2, 2013 - 3:40 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '07 From Atlanta Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
In all honesty the best swap is the 1nzfxe. A blistering 110hp, and you can pick the motor up and place it in the car by hand. No need to mess with those pesky engine hoists.
 It's also the only motor I've had where I can take it out without also removing the transmission. This post has been edited by mr220v: Oct 2, 2013 - 3:46 PM |
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Oct 2, 2013 - 4:02 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Looks like you're struggling there, do you even lift brah?
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Oct 2, 2013 - 4:15 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
QUOTE (mr220v @ Oct 2, 2013 - 3:40 PM) In all honesty the best swap is the 1nzfxe. A blistering 110hp, and you can pick the motor up and place it in the car by hand. No need to mess with those pesky engine hoists. It's also the only motor I've had where I can take it out without also removing the transmission. Hahaha The super economic motor swap right like we talked about?? QUOTE (Celicaguy13 @ Oct 2, 2013 - 3:22 PM) I do have a 1MZ swap in my MR2. I've also driven a BEAMs MR2. It's NOT a bad engine. It's fun. Just no torque. Reminds me of a Honda engine. What trans ate you using?? -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's 94 st hatch my daily driver http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235  n |
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Oct 2, 2013 - 4:18 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
only way i'd race smaay is if he had stock 1mzfe 98-00 camry or solora which produces 194-200 hp.
i would need to mix my fuel 91 octane and 100 octane to get a 94 octane mixture. then we can race. otherwise he will beat me. he's got a 3mz intake manifold. -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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Oct 2, 2013 - 4:35 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Oct 2, 2013 - 4:18 PM) only way i'd race smaay is if he had stock 1mzfe 98-00 camry or solora which produces 194-200 hp. i would need to mix my fuel 91 octane and 100 octane to get a 94 octane mixture. then we can race. otherwise he will beat me. he's got a 3mz intake manifold. All I'm hearing are excuses.
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Oct 2, 2013 - 4:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '11 From minnesota Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
lol this thread... if only there were a way to slap two 3s heads on a v6 bottom end it would be comparable, but until then no amount of technology is going to give a 2L the same powerband as 3-3.3L none. all you can do is utilize the displacement and make it more efficient. i mean even if you have a variable valve lift, variable valve timing, variable intake runner and variable compression technology all in one engine (lol that would be one hell of an engine to tune) you will not get a 2L to make 200lb.ft of torque at near 2,500rpm.
besides you guys are wrong. 4age beats you, thats right 1.6l of furry. 500hp @ 40,000rpm 120lb tq @ 32,000rpm + cvt transmission = 240mph |
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Oct 2, 2013 - 4:54 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
What's the intake have to do with it??
An he's got a 1mz intake not a 3mz -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
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Oct 2, 2013 - 4:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 9, '05 From Modesto, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I would so put a 1nz in my MR2 and turbo it!
MPG and decent power to putt putt around in -------------------- |
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Oct 2, 2013 - 4:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
QUOTE (rdyzz @ Oct 2, 2013 - 5:53 PM) lol this thread... if only there were a way to slap two 3s heads on a v6 bottom end it would be comparable, but until then no amount of technology is going to give a 2L the same powerband as 3-3.3L none. all you can do is utilize the displacement and make it more efficient. i mean even if you have a variable valve lift, variable valve timing, variable intake runner and variable compression technology all in one engine (lol that would be one hell of an engine to tune) you will not get a 2L to make 200lb.ft of torque at near 2,500rpm. besides you guys are wrong. 4age beats you, thats right 1.6l of furry. 500hp @ 40,000rpm 120lb tq @ 32,000rpm + cvt transmission = 240mph I wanna see a 4age spinning at those rpms That's gotta sound crazy -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
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Oct 2, 2013 - 7:58 PM
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QUOTE (Celicaguy13 @ Oct 2, 2013 - 1:22 PM) I do have a 1MZ swap in my MR2. I've also driven a BEAMs MR2. It's NOT a bad engine. It's fun. Just no torque. Reminds me of a Honda engine. Wasn't our beams ssiii and the 7gc gts made to compete against the integras? -------------------- |
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Oct 2, 2013 - 8:05 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Oct 2, 2013 - 7:58 PM) QUOTE (Celicaguy13 @ Oct 2, 2013 - 1:22 PM) I do have a 1MZ swap in my MR2. I've also driven a BEAMs MR2. It's NOT a bad engine. It's fun. Just no torque. Reminds me of a Honda engine. Wasn't our beams ssiii and the 7gc gts made to compete against the integras? More or less, though I'd take them over the Integra.
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Oct 2, 2013 - 10:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Oct 2, 2013 - 8:58 PM) QUOTE (Celicaguy13 @ Oct 2, 2013 - 1:22 PM) I do have a 1MZ swap in my MR2. I've also driven a BEAMs MR2. It's NOT a bad engine. It's fun. Just no torque. Reminds me of a Honda engine. Wasn't our beams ssiii and the 7gc gts made to compete against the integras? Yes basically but not with the pos engine options we got state side -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
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Oct 2, 2013 - 11:35 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It'd be as if Honda decided to use their non VTEC Civic and Accord engine in their sports car for the American market. For some reason Toyota thought they should do something along those lines.
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Oct 2, 2013 - 11:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
sotck for stock, 7th gen GTS and integra GSR were equals, ITR's were a little faster.
WAAAAYYYY back in the day when i only had an AEM CAI and TRD exhaust, I was able to beat an ITR with an exhaust. For some reason my 7th gen was just a lil faster than most others. -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Oct 3, 2013 - 12:03 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Supposedly the TRD exhaust brought it up to 190hp.
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