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> 3sge header and down pipe on an 5sfe ?
post Oct 11, 2015 - 2:32 PM
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I have a 94 celica gt and I was wondering if a Japspeed header and down pipe will work on the 94 celica ?
It's for a 3sge and I have a 5sfe ?

http://www.japspeed.co.uk/toyota-celica-st...d-downpipe.html

This is what I want to put ? Thanks
post Oct 12, 2015 - 9:07 AM
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you are in CA, no it wont work and you wont pass SMOG


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post Oct 12, 2015 - 10:46 PM
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LIKE YOU SAID IM IN CALIFORNIA. You pay someone trust me it'll pass no matter what lol I don't pass smog as it is now.
But thanks for your comment I wasn't asking if I passed or not I was asking if it worked.
post Oct 12, 2015 - 11:34 PM
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I thought that S and G heads have different bolt patterns?


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post Oct 13, 2015 - 12:21 AM
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I was reading and some people say it'll work and some don't that's why I'm a little confused and thought I'd ask.
post Oct 13, 2015 - 12:50 AM
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i know that the 3d gen headers fit a 91-92 mr2 with a 5sfe, im not sure if the head pattern is the same up from 94-99 celica compared to the mr2. someone would need to confirm.
post Oct 13, 2015 - 5:24 PM
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They are both S motors so it should fit, pretty sure. in terms of the flange piece on the manifold, im not sure if there is any mods needed just to grind some material off but thats minor.

but it looks like you'll have to reconnect it to the exhaust


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post Oct 13, 2015 - 6:58 PM
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QUOTE (trdproven @ Oct 13, 2015 - 6:24 PM) *
They are both S motors so it should fit, pretty sure. in terms of the flange piece on the manifold, im not sure if there is any mods needed just to grind some material off but thats minor.

but it looks like you'll have to reconnect it to the exhaust


By reconnect to the exhaust what exactly do you mean ?
post Oct 13, 2015 - 7:36 PM
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I could of told you all the nick nacs in the pm. He means it won't bolt up to the rest of your exhause system. You'll need a shop to do it unless your pro welder


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post Oct 13, 2015 - 10:51 PM
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Oct 13, 2015 - 7:36 PM) *
I could of told you all the nick nacs in the pm. He means it won't bolt up to the rest of your exhause system. You'll need a shop to do it unless your pro welder

Thanks man that's all I needed. I'm thinking of getting this mostl likely I will just to see something different.
post Oct 14, 2015 - 8:20 AM
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if you want a header so bad, just get the Ebay special.


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post Oct 14, 2015 - 9:57 AM
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Oct 14, 2015 - 8:20 AM) *
if you want a header so bad, just get the Ebay special.

I'm alright with that's thanks.
post Oct 14, 2015 - 5:59 PM
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the ebay header i've had on for 4 years, your cars just n/a i assume so you shouldn't have issues with the ebay ones. You may need to wrap it due to the heat it produces or get it coated. this way it bolts on directly.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Oct 14, 2015 - 5:59 PM


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post Oct 15, 2015 - 2:51 AM
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It is an n.a but I do have cams inside with a port and polish.
That's why I want a good exhaust if not I would be more then happy to stick with an eBay one.
Don't wanna sounds like a jerk but it sucks how you ask for help and everyone just tries to push you a way from the 5sfe that motor with cams a tune and the suspension done doesn't feel bad specially if the car is just used as a daily.
Ima swap the motor out one day but when you have a few 5sfe''s laying a around **** why not play with them whlile you can lol.
post Oct 15, 2015 - 7:36 AM
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because it is a 5S. so its P&P and has cams, adding a header will gain you maybe 3 HP? you asked if the 3S-FE or 3S-GE header would bolt up. while the header might bolt up, nothing else will. and it might interfere with the AC compressor, i dont know. the Ebay header has been proven to fit and work.

after all that, its still a 5S and NA. dont expect much


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post Oct 15, 2015 - 1:26 PM
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I just believe these engines and cars are so old why not swap a motor Into it. I had a 7afe and put a full exhaust on it. Was fun for a little but nothing compared to a swap.


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post Oct 15, 2015 - 9:00 PM
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its ok a cammed 5sfe will pass smog but not 3sge. everyone knows that, especially in cali headers on a 5sfe and cams = 100% smog legal, it will be fun when they put the sniffer on it even if its obd1!
good luck with ur build! not giving advice or opinions to anyone, do what u want. go buy the header and make it fit u will gain at least 3hp like smaay said, 3hp=100 dollar per horse lol
post Oct 16, 2015 - 10:53 AM
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Lol when everyone tells you not to do something sure makes you think twice Hahah. Well at least I got an answer thanks a lot
I'll just save up for a swap and enjoy my 5s while I can.

post Oct 19, 2015 - 7:07 PM
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5s header is dirt cheap at ~80 bucks. Even if it doesn't add much, combine that with your cams, headers, bigger midpipe, and exhaust, and intake, plugs, wires, and if you can add performance clutch, you will have a decent daily


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94 Celica GT
|Toyota OEM Japan|Toyota Racing Development|Tom's|Competition Clutch|5Zigen|Apexi|
|Laille/Beatrush|Magnecor|Denso|Royal Purple|Optima|PIAA|PW JDM|Megan Racing|Nitto|
|Work|Greddy|Samco|Project Mu|H&R|Gates|Moog|Rota|Yokohama|Epman|1320|Upgr8
04 Celica GT
|Toyota OEM Japan|Toyota Racing Development|Tein|BC Racing|Greddy|

89 Supra (Sold)
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post Oct 20, 2015 - 9:53 AM
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QUOTE (trdproven @ Oct 19, 2015 - 5:07 PM) *
5s header is dirt cheap at ~80 bucks. Even if it doesn't add much, combine that with your cams, headers, bigger midpipe, and exhaust, and intake, plugs, wires, and if you can add performance clutch, you will have a decent daily



so you spent 500-600 bucks for 6-7 HP, totally worth it!


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