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> I am just going to run low boost. . . yea right!, A warning for anyone who wants to boost a 5sfe
post Apr 6, 2016 - 12:21 AM
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HardHead93

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This is a cautionary tale to anyone who thinks they are going to slap a turbo on a high mileage engine and run low boost. DON’T DO IT! In December of 2014 despite all the posts that say, don’t boost your engine unless it is low mileage or rebuilt, I went for it. Is the 5sfe a great engine to boost, yes, but do it right. This post will tell the LONG, expensive, frustrating story to creating my 5sfte. The below write up is what happened.

Background
It has been a long road for this 5sfte build. Here is the engine I started with:


I saw what Supershannon77 did with an Ebay T3/4 turbo for her 6th gen Celica 5sfte and I tried to duplicate it (with a few upgrades). I bought an Ebay kit with the idea that I would need to modify or replace some of the parts that came in it but the bottom line was it would give me a turbo, intercooler, exhaust manifold, downpipe, and some miscellaneous needed parts.

As I started the build I found the kit seriously lacking. The big one was the downpipe was for a CT26 turbo not a T3/4 so I had to order one. There was no oil return line and there was not enough intercooler piping. It took 3 months to resolve all the issues with the advertised “bolt-on” kit (there is no such thing as bolt on from Ebay), I ended up with the following build:


8 psi boost
T3/T04E Turbo
Turbosmart Wastegate
2.5 inch full exhaust
Magnaflow Muffler and Catalytic Converter
AEM FIC Piggyback
SSQV Blow Off Valve
460cc RX-7 Injectors
FMIC
Walpro 255 Fuel Pump
3sgte 3 Bar MAP Sensor
Custom downpipe from Demon Motorsports
Ebay tubular exhaust manifold

I started noticing when I would pop the hood after a drive that there was an extreme amount of heat coming out of the engine bay. I also saw that the under hood insulation was burning away. After doing some digging, I found that the tubular manifold I was using was giving off too much heat instead of shooting it down to the exhaust. I needed a 3sgte manifold. I went to the Toyota dealership and they told me that all their warehouses are out of stock and that the best bet was to find a used one. That led to one option, Ebay. After about a week of missing out on bids I finally scored a 3sgte manifold. It arrived and I was so excited, I ceramic coated it and put it on and the car was back!


Then another problem reared its head, the clutch started slipping. I bought a SPEC stage 2 clutch, got it installed and the car ran like a champ. In the process of tuning the car, I sprung a fuel leak that lead to an engine fire. I think it the Walpro fuel pump put too much pressure on the original lines coming from the fuel filter and something popped.




Now here I am, where I should have started. In hindsight I should have rebuilt the engine before going down the turbo route. My plan was to fix the fire damage and rebuild the engine to a 14-15 psi boost-able monster. My goal is 280-300 horsepower. Based on what I saw in Pressure2’s build, I can use stock pistons and rods but I will need a metal head gasket. I planned to swap the California cylinder head with a Federal head so the fuel injectors fit perfectly.

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- HardHead93   I am just going to run low boost. . . yea right!   Apr 6, 2016 - 12:21 AM
- - HardHead93   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Jan 22, 2017 - 11...   Feb 1, 2017 - 10:29 PM
- - 95celgt   had fun reading this thread, sad to hear you are n...   Feb 4, 2017 - 5:56 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (95celgt @ Feb 4, 2017 - 5:56 ...   Feb 4, 2017 - 8:05 PM
- - HardHead93   I decided not to sell my Celica because I drove it...   Feb 14, 2017 - 9:31 PM
- - Box   With as much time and work you've put into the...   Feb 15, 2017 - 12:00 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Box @ Feb 15, 2017 - 1:00 AM)...   Feb 15, 2017 - 8:34 AM
- - Box   Well best case scenario keeping the spare motor al...   Feb 15, 2017 - 3:01 PM
|- - HardHead93   Everyone, thanks for all the encouragement. This ...   Feb 15, 2017 - 3:39 PM
- - cheela   glad you're keeping it. I've been reading ...   Feb 15, 2017 - 3:26 PM
- - Box   The VG30DE is a good motor, and so is the VG30DETT...   Feb 15, 2017 - 5:22 PM
- - HardHead93   I got my Innovate SCG-1 Boost Controller in last W...   Feb 19, 2017 - 5:37 PM
- - HardHead93   So I have been playing around with my electronic b...   Feb 26, 2017 - 12:29 AM
- - Box   I currently have 275/40-17 BF Goodrich Sport COMP-...   Feb 26, 2017 - 9:38 PM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (Box @ Feb 26, 2017 - 8:38 PM)...   Mar 1, 2017 - 9:33 PM
- - slavie   The function you want is boost by gear, but it doe...   Feb 27, 2017 - 9:57 AM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (slavie @ Feb 27, 2017 - 10:57...   Feb 27, 2017 - 12:39 PM
- - cheela   well if you're getting new tires/wheels anyway...   Feb 27, 2017 - 2:17 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (cheela @ Feb 27, 2017 - 3:17 ...   Feb 27, 2017 - 11:00 PM
- - Box   I've been really happy with mine and how they...   Mar 1, 2017 - 10:35 PM
- - HardHead93   So I have been enjoying the car with the swapped m...   Mar 7, 2017 - 10:57 PM
- - Box   Check the Sunoco Fuel site for any Sunoco stations...   Mar 8, 2017 - 12:40 AM
- - HardHead93   After spending last weekend on the track losing tr...   Mar 24, 2017 - 9:26 PM
- - Box   With 275/40-17 Sport COMP-2's on 9.5" wid...   Mar 25, 2017 - 2:25 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Box @ Mar 25, 2017 - 2:25 PM)...   Mar 25, 2017 - 7:02 PM
- - Box   It's a summer performance tire, and really it...   Mar 25, 2017 - 8:00 PM
- - slavie   Don't get all-season tires for track - you...   Mar 28, 2017 - 9:00 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (slavie @ Mar 28, 2017 - 10:00...   Mar 28, 2017 - 9:49 PM
- - HardHead93   UPS just dropped off my wheels. They look sweet...   Mar 28, 2017 - 9:52 PM
- - HardHead93   I got the wheels and tires on the car and they loo...   Mar 31, 2017 - 7:49 PM
- - Box   Wooooo fitting! I bet it handles a lot better...   Apr 1, 2017 - 1:42 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Box @ Apr 1, 2017 - 1:42 PM) ...   Apr 1, 2017 - 6:11 PM
- - Box   That's good, I noticed a big improvement in ha...   Apr 1, 2017 - 6:30 PM
- - HardHead93   The next upgrade I am looking to do is with the tu...   Apr 4, 2017 - 10:06 PM
|- - HardHead93   After doing some research, I found only one issue ...   Apr 9, 2017 - 9:24 PM
- - Box   Since you have the cat and glasspack you could see...   Apr 9, 2017 - 11:57 PM
- - slavie   There's a lot of ideas going around on 2.5 vs ...   Apr 10, 2017 - 5:25 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (slavie @ Apr 10, 2017 - 6:25 ...   Apr 10, 2017 - 10:16 PM
- - HardHead93   So it has been a little bit since my last update. ...   May 14, 2017 - 9:11 AM
- - Bitter   Oh for ****s sake that sucks. Why you no port an...   May 14, 2017 - 12:35 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Bitter @ May 14, 2017 - 12:35...   May 14, 2017 - 2:26 PM
- - Box   It's always something, hopefully between fixin...   May 14, 2017 - 4:02 PM
- - HardHead93   My Brian Crower camshafts just came in today. I p...   May 15, 2017 - 7:54 PM
- - slavie   Any time I have to deal with any exhaust bolts, I ...   May 17, 2017 - 12:49 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (slavie @ May 17, 2017 - 1:49 ...   May 18, 2017 - 5:32 AM
- - HardHead93   I finished getting my car back together and on the...   May 22, 2017 - 5:34 PM
- - Box   It's normal for a "bigger" cam to be...   May 22, 2017 - 6:26 PM
|- - HardHead93   I retarded the exhaust cam by 3 degrees. I read o...   May 23, 2017 - 8:25 AM
- - HardHead93   So I had a little bit of a scare today. I have se...   May 30, 2017 - 7:12 PM
- - Box   On naturally aspirated V8's it's common to...   May 30, 2017 - 8:05 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Box @ May 30, 2017 - 9:05 PM)...   May 30, 2017 - 9:04 PM
- - HardHead93   I think I may be getting a little confused. I rea...   May 31, 2017 - 11:02 AM
- - Box   Seems like advancing intake and retarding exhaust ...   May 31, 2017 - 1:17 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Box @ May 31, 2017 - 1:17 PM)...   Jun 1, 2017 - 1:46 PM
- - JohnnyGat0519   So this thread is making a little service, as i am...   Jun 1, 2017 - 6:27 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (JohnnyGat0519 @ Jun 1, 2017 - 6...   Jun 3, 2017 - 9:29 PM
- - Box   Moral of the story, stop while you're ahead an...   Jun 3, 2017 - 10:34 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Box @ Jun 3, 2017 - 11:34 PM)...   Jun 4, 2017 - 10:26 AM
|- - DST94   QUOTE (HardHead93 @ Jun 4, 2017 - 8...   Jun 6, 2017 - 2:04 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (DST94 @ Jun 6, 2017 - 2:04 PM...   Jun 7, 2017 - 9:41 PM
- - HardHead93   I put in a nice 3 point front strut bar. I heard ...   Jun 8, 2017 - 11:25 PM
- - HardHead93   I took my Celica to the dyno and they did 3 pulls ...   Jun 10, 2017 - 1:53 AM
- - Box   I think tuned for 93 octane you'd be good for ...   Jun 10, 2017 - 5:06 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Box @ Jun 10, 2017 - 6:06 PM)...   Jun 10, 2017 - 9:23 PM
- - Bitter   If it's a return style fuel system then it mix...   Jun 10, 2017 - 9:29 PM
- - rentaspace   Makes me want to buy a set of cams and install the...   Jun 13, 2017 - 7:11 AM
- - HardHead93   I forgot what forum I was reading it on, but there...   Jun 16, 2017 - 5:10 PM
- - Box   Stock ECU tune is always conservative, gotta make ...   Jun 16, 2017 - 7:53 PM
|- - HardHead93   I am excited to see what power is hiding in this m...   Jun 16, 2017 - 8:22 PM
- - HardHead93   Had another track day last weekend and the car gav...   Aug 6, 2017 - 12:51 AM
- - cheela   glad to hear you say this after all the things you...   Aug 7, 2017 - 9:03 AM
- - HardHead93   A friend of mine has a YouTube channel and he film...   Aug 13, 2017 - 1:39 PM
- - Bitter   It's so.....quiet!   Aug 13, 2017 - 4:23 PM
- - Box   It's the quiet ones you have to look out for.   Aug 13, 2017 - 6:23 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Box @ Aug 13, 2017 - 6:23 PM)...   Aug 13, 2017 - 9:55 PM
- - richee3   You will definitely pick up some power by going to...   Aug 13, 2017 - 10:04 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (richee3 @ Aug 13, 2017 - 10:0...   Aug 13, 2017 - 11:33 PM
- - Box   Between turbo, cat, and muffler it should still be...   Aug 13, 2017 - 10:11 PM
- - richee3   Exactly, you hit a certain boost level and it open...   Aug 14, 2017 - 9:08 AM
- - Bitter   http://www.ebay.com/itm/W1209-DC-12V-Therm...e-/11...   Aug 15, 2017 - 10:33 PM
- - HardHead93   Now that I am switched over to a water to air inte...   Aug 21, 2017 - 6:21 PM
- - Box   To me it's silly to spend what it costs on a b...   Aug 21, 2017 - 7:23 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Box @ Aug 21, 2017 - 7:23 PM)...   Aug 21, 2017 - 9:05 PM
- - Box   Exactly. I think it cost me like $70 for pip...   Aug 21, 2017 - 9:18 PM
- - HardHead93   I was able to find another CT15B for my 4th gen 3s...   Aug 21, 2017 - 9:23 PM
- - HardHead93   I got the side skirts installed on the car. It re...   Aug 23, 2017 - 1:19 PM
- - cheela   verts definitely look alot better with sideskirts ...   Aug 23, 2017 - 3:37 PM
- - Box   Now it needs rear splitters to finish the look.   Aug 23, 2017 - 4:23 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Box @ Aug 23, 2017 - 4:23 PM)...   Aug 23, 2017 - 4:33 PM
- - Box   You'll have to get ones for the Curren.   Aug 23, 2017 - 6:00 PM
- - Bitter   What about also having the intercooler fan RPM bas...   Aug 26, 2017 - 9:58 AM
- - HardHead93   I am doing a conversion of my front headlights ove...   Sep 8, 2017 - 7:59 PM
- - HardHead93   I replaced my bumper that I cut to s**t trying to ...   Oct 8, 2017 - 12:13 PM
- - Bitter   The beam on those LED conversion craps are awful, ...   Oct 8, 2017 - 3:43 PM
- - jordisonjr   New bumper will look way better. I was personally ...   Oct 10, 2017 - 8:43 AM
- - Box   I was ok with the first two on the top, didn't...   Oct 10, 2017 - 4:38 PM
|- - HardHead93   QUOTE (Box @ Oct 10, 2017 - 5:38 PM)...   Oct 10, 2017 - 9:45 PM
- - Box   Woo, much better.   Oct 10, 2017 - 9:49 PM
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