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spy00005
QUOTE (Arsaces @ Sep 24, 2011 - 5:06 PM) *
QUOTE (spy00005 @ Sep 24, 2011 - 1:58 AM) *
which steering wheel are you using because the old cc should fit just not going to be straight out would be angled down something like this \ mine defenatly fit but like i said im using the 7th gen leather wheel have no idea about the other ones ill see if i can take a pic tomorrow.


The ebay listing says that it is off of an 03 celica, but it looks more like a rav4 wheel to me, no leather wrapping, just the same material as our e-brake. The CC off of my car has 3 mounting screws, but the new wheel only has 2 mounting holes, and the mounting area is much smaller making it so that the old one will not fit.

IIRC I just used 1 screw to mount mine and made sure it was decently tight no need for all 3 screws I'll go to my car and take a pic give me like 30 mins
Arsaces
QUOTE (Arsaces @ Sep 24, 2011 - 4:06 PM) *
QUOTE (spy00005 @ Sep 24, 2011 - 1:58 AM) *
which steering wheel are you using because the old cc should fit just not going to be straight out would be angled down something like this \ mine defenatly fit but like i said im using the 7th gen leather wheel have no idea about the other ones ill see if i can take a pic tomorrow.


The ebay listing says that it is off of an 03 celica, but it looks more like a rav4 wheel to me, no leather wrapping, just the same material as our e-brake. The CC off of my car has 3 mounting screws, but the new wheel only has 2 mounting holes, and the mounting area is much smaller making it so that the old one will not fit.


Good information here:
http://supraforums.com/forum/showthread.ph...053#post5623053
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/archive/i...p/t-425770.html

I now know what I must do, when I get the resistors wired up and the switch working I will post back here to let you guys know smile.gif
spy00005
talk about more than half an hour lol.
but here if it helps.


Arsaces
I got my CC stalk all working. I tried to splice the wires and install it, but it ended up being a bit more involved than that. I figured this thread would be the best place for a writeup considering it is the most comprehensive guide to swapping steering wheels, correct me if I am wrong:

First off a little background information, our cruise stalk has 3 wires + the horn wire, the new cruise stalk has 2 + horn. Here is the wiring diagram for the 2, simplified:


As you can see, we will need to make some modifications, here is a redrawn diagram of what we need to do:


Now, on to the work, Cut the connector off of your 6gc stalk, giving yourself enough to solder onto. Then take your 7gc stalk, depin the yellow wire from the connector, and cut the white and red wires. You will need to pull the white part out of the stalk housing, there are 4 clips (2 on each side) that will need to be popped off. Slide the black wire cover off of the red and white wires. You will be left with this:


You will notice that there are 2 black wires coming off of the switch itself, these black wires are used to turn the CC on or off, and our diagram shows that we will want to cut the black wire off of the red wire.


Here are the new resistors soldered in. I noted that the factory resistors did not seem to be soldered in, they feel like they are pressed together, or something like that, I had to snip the leads. Notice that for the 420 ohm resistor I had to use 2, because I did not have that particular value of resistor on hand. Resistors in series can be added to each other, in my case I used a 270 and a 150 ohm resistor to make 420 ohms:


Now cut your yellow wire in half and solder up the connector using the following color codes:

7gc stalk----------------6gc connector
Black-----------------------White
White--------------------White/black
Red--------------------------Red
Yellow-----------------------Black

You will be left with this (my yellow wire is not pictured, because I took it off while experimenting):


And installed:


Thanks for everyone's help making this happen: specifically I would like to thank njccmd2002 for the resistance values, and jiggersplat form the supra forums for the wiring diagram.
Here are the sources I used for most of my information:
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...7&hl=cruise
http://supraforums.com/forum/showthread.ph...053#post5623053
dudeofchaos
You guys know if it's possible to plug an airbag wheel to a car that didn't came with one? I just bough a new 6gc but it has an aftermarket momo wheel on it, but I'd like to go back with an oem 6gc 3spoke cc/airbag/horn wheel. (if there is a model with all 3 options)
Arsaces
QUOTE (dudeofchaos @ Sep 26, 2011 - 5:47 AM) *
You guys know if it's possible to plug an airbag wheel to a car that didn't came with one? I just bough a new 6gc but it has an aftermarket momo wheel on it, but I'd like to go back with an oem 6gc 3spoke cc/airbag/horn wheel. (if there is a model with all 3 options)


Take off the steering wheel and take a picture. I would venture to guess that your car came stock with an airbag, and the connector, sensors, etc are probably still there. You might want to find out if the previous owner replaced the airbag because of a crash, if so you have to replace more than just the airbag.
dudeofchaos
QUOTE (Arsaces @ Sep 26, 2011 - 9:25 AM) *
QUOTE (dudeofchaos @ Sep 26, 2011 - 5:47 AM) *
You guys know if it's possible to plug an airbag wheel to a car that didn't came with one? I just bough a new 6gc but it has an aftermarket momo wheel on it, but I'd like to go back with an oem 6gc 3spoke cc/airbag/horn wheel. (if there is a model with all 3 options)


Take off the steering wheel and take a picture. I would venture to guess that your car came stock with an airbag, and the connector, sensors, etc are probably still there. You might want to find out if the previous owner replaced the airbag because of a crash, if so you have to replace more than just the airbag.


The guy said he bought it this way. (It's a Jdm 94 Gt-Four btw). But I'll ask him if he knows, I'm going to get it tomorrow.
spy00005
QUOTE (dudeofchaos @ Sep 26, 2011 - 9:38 AM) *
QUOTE (Arsaces @ Sep 26, 2011 - 9:25 AM) *
QUOTE (dudeofchaos @ Sep 26, 2011 - 5:47 AM) *
You guys know if it's possible to plug an airbag wheel to a car that didn't came with one? I just bough a new 6gc but it has an aftermarket momo wheel on it, but I'd like to go back with an oem 6gc 3spoke cc/airbag/horn wheel. (if there is a model with all 3 options)


Take off the steering wheel and take a picture. I would venture to guess that your car came stock with an airbag, and the connector, sensors, etc are probably still there. You might want to find out if the previous owner replaced the airbag because of a crash, if so you have to replace more than just the airbag.


The guy said he bought it this way. (It's a Jdm 94 Gt-Four btw). But I'll ask him if he knows, I'm going to get it tomorrow.


For some GT-4 especially the first models airbag was optional i think it came standard after OBDII IIRC so your car might have never came with airbag but it SHOULD still have the connector back there for it make sure there like an airbag control under the armrest might want to make sure its there and does the passenger side have an air bag?
dudeofchaos
QUOTE (spy00005 @ Sep 26, 2011 - 10:28 AM) *
QUOTE (dudeofchaos @ Sep 26, 2011 - 9:38 AM) *
QUOTE (Arsaces @ Sep 26, 2011 - 9:25 AM) *
QUOTE (dudeofchaos @ Sep 26, 2011 - 5:47 AM) *
You guys know if it's possible to plug an airbag wheel to a car that didn't came with one? I just bough a new 6gc but it has an aftermarket momo wheel on it, but I'd like to go back with an oem 6gc 3spoke cc/airbag/horn wheel. (if there is a model with all 3 options)


Take off the steering wheel and take a picture. I would venture to guess that your car came stock with an airbag, and the connector, sensors, etc are probably still there. You might want to find out if the previous owner replaced the airbag because of a crash, if so you have to replace more than just the airbag.


The guy said he bought it this way. (It's a Jdm 94 Gt-Four btw). But I'll ask him if he knows, I'm going to get it tomorrow.


For some GT-4 especially the first models airbag was optional i think it came standard after OBDII IIRC so your car might have never came with airbag but it SHOULD still have the connector back there for it make sure there like an airbag control under the armrest might want to make sure its there and does the passenger side have an air bag?


Honestly I didn't pay attention to that, I guess I'll see if passenger side has it. But, you say there's an airbag control under the armrest? You mean under the whole plastic?
spy00005
yea IIRC there is
http://www.6gc.net/howto/install_trd_quickshifter

you can see it in the 2nd pic and they confirm it if you read this somewhere there even thought that how to is unrelated to this =.
dudeofchaos
QUOTE (spy00005 @ Sep 26, 2011 - 2:52 PM) *
yea IIRC there is
http://www.6gc.net/howto/install_trd_quickshifter

you can see it in the 2nd pic and they confirm it if you read this somewhere there even thought that how to is unrelated to this =.


Oh, nice! Thanks, I'll look for that.
xrav22
QUOTE (dudeofchaos @ Sep 26, 2011 - 5:07 PM) *
QUOTE (spy00005 @ Sep 26, 2011 - 2:52 PM) *
yea IIRC there is
http://www.6gc.net/howto/install_trd_quickshifter

you can see it in the 2nd pic and they confirm it if you read this somewhere there even thought that how to is unrelated to this =.


Oh, nice! Thanks, I'll look for that.

Hi guys I have been reading all this good info but I really just want to replace my 4 spoke wheel with airbag/cruise with a 3 spoke wheel .
From what I have been reading most like 7th gen(looks a bit better) and then splice and stuff. It seems a 98 or 99 3 spoke is not as nice looking but it will
plug and play. Is this correct? I am sure I can find one somewhere but I don't want to splice anything. Thx.
spy00005
i think culpable04 is selling a 3 spoke GT4 steering wheel not sure of if it has airbags or splicing or anything though, maybe you could PM him.
xrav22
QUOTE (spy00005 @ Oct 27, 2011 - 4:39 PM) *
i think culpable04 is selling a 3 spoke GT4 steering wheel not sure of if it has airbags or splicing or anything though, maybe you could PM him.

Can anyone confirm that a 98 or 99 will have the same connectors even though the wheel looks a little cheaper than 7th gen 3 spoke?
For my 97 that is. I am sure to find one at some junk yard here in socal.
IllIllIll
Thanks for posting all this information guys. This is the information I was looking for when I searched for steering wheel swaps.
I have one question that others probably have also.

Is there any other steering wheels & airbags that will work in the Celica?

So far the MR2 / Rav 4 / 7th gen Celica 3 spoke type steering wheel works. All these wheels look pretty much the same. I would bet that the TRD / Supra / Lexus / Altezza wheel would works as well since it looks to be about the same as the others.

What about other steering wheel airbag combos? I'm looking for a more modern sporty looking wheel wheel with audio controls on the wheel. Bluetooth controls would be awesome too.
richee3
If you have a Pioneer head unit, I know they sell a cable to integrate your steering wheel controls with the radio. How much extra wiring would go into that for a Celica, I'm not sure. I think some Rav4's have a 3 post wheel with audio controls. Or, if you really want, I'd bet you could pick up a 7th gen steering wheel from an auto. They have the upshift/downshift buttons. I'd bet you could repin those so their function becomes volume up and down and seek/track buttons.
IllIllIll
QUOTE (richee3 @ Apr 14, 2012 - 3:26 PM) *
If you have a Pioneer head unit, I know they sell a cable to integrate your steering wheel controls with the radio. How much extra wiring would go into that for a Celica, I'm not sure. I think some Rav4's have a 3 post wheel with audio controls. Or, if you really want, I'd bet you could pick up a 7th gen steering wheel from an auto. They have the upshift/downshift buttons. I'd bet you could repin those so their function becomes volume up and down and seek/track buttons.


I was thinking the same thing about the 7th Gen Celica wheel, since I want one anyway. I'm going to look in to this more. If I succeed I'll post it on here.
fil
QUOTE (Batman722 @ Feb 27, 2007 - 11:56 PM) *
I was lucky enough to get my hands on some 7th gen parts at a good price biggrin.gif

from this



and about an hour later this



sorry about the night pic, but I just finished. I'll get some day pics tomorrow or so.

Martin, the way I did it was easier than the way you did - no airbag repacking, just a splice here and there wink.gif also, I used the 7th gen cruise switch (it's wired different than the 6th gen) so I'm 99% sure it works, I just need to road test it.



can i install the whole steerin column with the steering wheel like batmans pic? will it fit ?
WhipCreamCelica
do the 5th gen aftermarket steering wheel hubs fit our 6gcs?
michlowrider
Just history now biggrin.gif. Since today I have this one wink.gif genuine 7th gen. Celica/91-04 MR2 st. wheel.


Malpaso and the others who have followed on this topic, This swap was next on my list, I came across your string and pictures, totally awesome! Just a huge "Thank you" for posting all that you have!
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sr666
As above a massive thank you to Malpaso for popping this up and everyone else's input is appreciated smile.gif

I've only got one small issue is that on the UK spec GT (early 95) I've not got the yellow spiral connector but my horn doesn't work. is it just a case of finding the black wire and extending it then attaching to the gen 7 wheel?

Many thanks although it does look much better now biggrin.gif

Nihil
Got any picture of how it was connected to your previous wheel? Surely there isn't some rocket science behind the horn connector, can't be anything more than a single wire that makes a negative contact when pressed
sr666
You'd think it'd be simple but in the ones shown there there's the yellow spiral adaptor on mine there isn't one. I couldn't see a black wire else it'd be simply just a case of extending the wire back to the bolt (not the centre spline) which would attach the wheel to so when the horn is pressed the circuit s complete surely?
95CelicaST
QUOTE (sr666 @ Nov 12, 2012 - 4:10 AM) *
You'd think it'd be simple but in the ones shown there there's the yellow spiral adaptor on mine there isn't one. I couldn't see a black wire else it'd be simply just a case of extending the wire back to the bolt (not the centre spline) which would attach the wheel to so when the horn is pressed the circuit s complete surely?


The harness that goes from the clock spring to your cruise control also handles the horn. There would have been a black wire that was riveted to the internal spring structure of the stock wheel. You need to cut that wire off of the stock wheel and put an end on it that will allow you to bolt it to one of the four nuts on the airbag explosive.
sr666
QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Nov 12, 2012 - 9:18 AM) *
QUOTE (sr666 @ Nov 12, 2012 - 4:10 AM) *
You'd think it'd be simple but in the ones shown there there's the yellow spiral adaptor on mine there isn't one. I couldn't see a black wire else it'd be simply just a case of extending the wire back to the bolt (not the centre spline) which would attach the wheel to so when the horn is pressed the circuit s complete surely?


The harness that goes from the clock spring to your cruise control also handles the horn. There would have been a black wire that was riveted to the internal spring structure of the stock wheel. You need to cut that wire off of the stock wheel and put an end on it that will allow you to bolt it to one of the four nuts on the airbag explosive.


That's fine but I've not got cruise I'm in a Euro model lol. Cheers I'll have another look when I remove the wheel again smile.gif

Thanks smile.gif
95CelicaST
At the very least there should be (or should have been) a black ground wire attached to the old steering wheel. You just need to find where it went, and hook it to the back of the 3-spoke wheel's explosive.
sr666
Perfect cheers I'll have another looksie.

Thanks for the replies smile.gif
Syaoran
Back from the dead:

You'd think that after so many years of posting you'd see the actual size of the torx bit mentioned by someone. XD

Anyone know what the torx size is for the 2 bolts?
richee3
T27 if I recall correctly.
Syaoran
QUOTE (richee3 @ Jun 26, 2013 - 4:34 PM) *
T27 if I recall correctly.


Thanks I'll check it out when I get my wheel.
richee3
They're either T27's or T30's. I'm leaning towards T27's. Which steering wheel are you going with?
Syaoran
QUOTE (richee3 @ Jun 26, 2013 - 10:45 PM) *
They're either T27's or T30's. I'm leaning towards T27's. Which steering wheel are you going with?


Nothing expensive. Bought a replica from a local shop. Waiting for it to arrive to pick it up. I think it's an NRG replica not sure.
saleenvic
QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Feb 16, 2010 - 3:50 PM) *
QUOTE (shegarhuney @ Jan 18, 2010 - 2:34 PM) *
no more fuss.. the missing link ladies n gentlemen..

QUOTE (FORGMANN @ Jan 17, 2010 - 1:44 PM) *
you don't need to splice any wires just buy this adapter

have to order from here not your dealer ..

http://toyota.spx.com/detail.aspx?id=407&p=173&g=21





Just thought I'd update this with my own findings, I was able to order this part off of http://www.handsontools.com/; prior to ordering I emailed to confirm part is in stock - part is in stock and will ship within 48 hrs. Part costs $16 on this site, but shipping is a bit high at $10 for UPS ground.

Edit: sub-"herness"? lol




Hey whats up everyone,, got a quick question, I am in the middle of this swap,, got the cruise control squared away so I'm just left with the airbag connection. For those of you who have done this swap with this subharness,,,does it really make a difference, meaning no srs airbag light on? I don't mind splicing wires n what not but if i know that this subharness will not give me any code issues off the bat then I'd feel more comfortable about shelling out $40 bucks,, (shipping is pricey) Any input at all greatly appreciated, thanks again for all you who have contributed to this topic.
njccmd2002
ok it depends on what u want. you can get this adapter, you can splice the harness or you can buy the clock ring.

the clock ring part n0 84306-12070 it came in various cars and can be had for cheap en ebay and yards. ravs, camrys, some lexus.

I am going to get the appropriate part because just in case I ever sell the car, but mostly ill be more content.
saleenvic
QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Jan 21, 2014 - 11:35 PM) *
ok it depends on what u want. you can get this adapter, you can splice the harness or you can buy the clock ring.

the clock ring part n0 84306-12070 it came in various cars and can be had for cheap en ebay and yards. ravs, camrys, some lexus.

I am going to get the appropriate part because just in case I ever sell the car, but mostly ill be more content.



Thanks for the reply back. I was reading that those that did this swap were getting the SRS airbag light on right, and were having to reset the airbag ECU to get the code to clear. I haven't connected the airbag yet,, but whether I go with splicing the wires or the harness adapter, if i get the airbag light on I can just remove the code with a OBD II scanner correct, to eliminate it,,, or do either way I need to reset the airbag ECU no matter what route I choose?

Just calculating my next step lol.
njccmd2002
ok, when i did mine, never got the airbag light on. and I spliced mine,

it is when i did my swap, that i ran the car with no airbag, that i got the code.

so maybe people hooked the batteries while they car the car with no bag..
Nihil
I also spliced the wires and never got any airbag issue... SRS light comes on with the key turned, stays on for about 5 s, and goes off... just as it did on the 4-spoke wheel.

Using this harness might be a good idea if you feel that you will someday switch back to your stock wheel.
saleenvic
QUOTE (Nihil @ Jan 23, 2014 - 8:46 AM) *
I also spliced the wires and never got any airbag issue... SRS light comes on with the key turned, stays on for about 5 s, and goes off... just as it did on the 4-spoke wheel.

Using this harness might be a good idea if you feel that you will someday switch back to your stock wheel.




I appreciate the feedback guys, thanks.
ILoveMySilly97
Got mine in thanks to this post and others for helping me out.

ILoveMySilly97
I'm a visual guy so this MR2 steeringwheel swap would've been MUCH better help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nndrnsq0DvU
richee3
Today I prepped my 7th gen Celica wheel for install in a 4 post wheel equipped wheel car. I didn't want to do any cutting and splicing so I depinned the 7gc clockspring plug and repinned it for a 6gc plug.

Here's the difference, for anyone interested:






So I depinned the plug, and had to cut off the old pins and solder in some of the bigger donor pins. I was trying to avoid this, but it's not difficult. Three wires and I was finished, but it would only be one wire for anyone who doesn't have the E shift buttons.




After that was finished, I put all of the new plugs into their homes. The two wires on the far left are for the E-shift buttons so you guys can ignore them. They'll be used in a different project.



Now that this is done, I will be able to use an IS300 clockspring to get the signal out of the steering wheel and into the steering column. Of course, the plugs in the steering column won't plug into the IS300 clockspring, but I grabbed some plugs and pigtails at the junkyard a few days ago so I can repin those and make the IS300 clockspring and 7th gen steering wheel all plug and play for a Toyota equipped with a 4 spoke steering wheel. Since my Celica came stock with the 3 post wheel, none of that was necessary, but I have a new project coming up...
enderswift
QUOTE
Since my Celica came stock with the 3 post wheel, none of that was necessary, but I have a new project coming up...




New project you say
NgoFcukinWay
QUOTE (enderswift @ Jul 22, 2014 - 7:01 PM) *
QUOTE
Since my Celica came stock with the 3 post wheel, none of that was necessary, but I have a new project coming up...




New project you say


That he does. Can't wait till he gets his hands on it at the end of the month.
a2daj1
Daniel as always u never fail to amaze me with your skeels thanks so much homeboy
MGCustoms325
Just a quick snap of what I'm currently working on. Excuse the mess...

XxDarkLightning
QUOTE (MGCustoms325 @ Nov 29, 2018 - 5:45 AM) *
Just a quick snap of what I'm currently working on. Excuse the mess...



Did you ever get this swap functioning. I am interested in getting media controls into the my Celica.
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