QUOTE (JoshuaM @ May 14, 2013 - 6:30 PM)
I'll just beat him to it...
QUOTE (Tigawoods @ May 14, 2013 - 11:17 AM)
what does it mean to be a P-plater?
and they check skirt height!! thats absurd!!
In Australia, as soon as you pass your driving test (At age 17 + having had your learners license for at least 12 months and recording over 100/120 hours of 'log book' driving wih a qualified driver - number varies on state), you go on to a provisional license, which is designed to try to limit some of the distractions that cause accidents for new drivers, and to allow other road users to identify said young driver as somebody with little experience on the road (that doesn't always end well).
Restrictions for p platers (as they are called since all provisional license holders need to display p plates whilst driving) vary state to state, but in general;
Red P plates;
- Keep for 12 months
- Max 1 non-family passenger after 11pm
- no mobile phones (including hands free)
- 0.000 BAC limit (legal drinking age is 18 here, so it matters
)
- Low number of demerit points - so it's easy to lose your license for 1 or 2 minor offenses
And the kickers,
- no 'high powered vehicles', which is everything over 210kW, turbo petrol, V8 and up, anything supercharged etc.
- no modification (classed as things that require inspection; so no engine swaps or turbo builds.... Coil overs are a grey area
)
Green P plates;
- Keep for a further 24 months
- same as above, but ditches the one person and no hands free mobile rules.
In New South Whales, where rentaspace lives, there are even speed restrictions that stop them going full speed on the interstates!
And since it is so easy to identify p plate drivers, they are unfairly targeted by police more than anything! So I would be careful about going too low.
QUOTE (Smaay @ May 14, 2013 - 12:25 PM)
is it an Australia thing? why cant you drive a stick? whay does your dads speedometer have to do with that?
When you go for your practical driving test to advance from learners to provisional license, you can only be awarded the type of license eligible for the car you took the test in. Since rentaspace took the test in an auto, he has only been given a license to drive an auto!
The reason he couldn't use his dads car is that it is currently 'unroadworthy' because of that fault, and arriving at the test centre with that would have been an instant failure and loss of the driving test fee before they left the lot.
And to add to this:
In NSW it is also illegal to have ANY part of your car lower than 10CM (3.9") from the ground (You can legally go lower with an engineers report, BUT the cars registration changes and certain restrictions then apply (show car), including only certain days that it can be used and to top it off, your insurance will be wiped or cost a substantial amount more) or have ANY modification from stock.. (It's a big grey area, some cops will care for everything and other so not)...
They also check the tinting on your windows (Max 35%), and the 'noise pollution' from your exhaust... So My car has potentially many defects...
I know of friends getting their exhaust checked in a tunnel; their STOCK exhaust failed because of the tunnel... Obviously they took it to court and won, but that's what I mean by it depends on the cop...
My side-skirts sit at like 10 or 11cm off the ground, but under certain conditions (road bumps and crap) this number can drop and therefore make my car be defected...
Luckily, most cops won't care unless you act like a total tool to them, in which case they go over everything and defect you...
In fact, today I had a Police Camry (They don't usually go after people, the Commodores and Falcons do that mostly) tailgate me for around 10km... But, I have never been pulled over because I drive sensibly
Unfortunately, the minority of P-Platers ruin it for everyone...
Also, the law in NSW is no more than one person under 21 years of age after 11pm, it doesn't matter if they are related or not here... (A cop told us this at school two years ago; it may have changed but I always assumed this)
The legal speeds in NSW are:
Learners: 90km/h (recently upped from 80km/h)
'P1' Red: 90km/h
'P2' Green: 100km/h
Full License: Whatever the speed limit is.
And yes, my dad's car does not have a working speedometer, and when attempting your driving test the instructor performs a 'basic' check to make sure they won't be put into danger... The speedometer is an integral part of the test; which upon the instructor seeing it does not work, I would be told to pull over and not move the car again... I would then be up for the cost of the test, even though I 'failed'...
And in an Update:
Today I paid for the TRD Rear Splitters for the car
Judging by the JDM tails shipment it should take 5-6days