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 Jan 4, 2013 - 12:46 AM
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QUOTE (NOVAKx17 @ Jan 3, 2013 - 11:10 PM)  Is there any intake manifold that is better than another when it comes to the 1mz? Ans what was the problem where you began knocking from combining the 3mz/1mz? And which 1mzs had vvti if you know off the top of your head? The 3mz intake manifold is better. The 3mz has vvti not the 1mz the 1mz throttle body is similar to ours, the 3mz TB is drive by wire I would guess that the 1mz is cheaper than a 3mz, since the 3mz is found in newer vehicles. |
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Jan 4, 2013 - 1:30 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE The 1MZ-FE with VVT-i is used in the Avalon, Highlander, Sienna and Camry. Output is 210 hp (156 kW) at 5800 rpm with 222 lb·ft (328 N·m) of torque at 4400 rpm. Early versions of the VVT-i 1MZ used a dual throttle body, cast aluminum intake manifold, and EGR block off plates on the exhaust manifolds. Later versions used an ABS plastic intake manifold to further weight reduction and decrease cost. These versions may also have drive-by-wire/electronic throttle control.
Applications: 1999–2003 Lexus RX 300 (US market) 1999–2003 Lexus ES 300 2000–2004 Toyota Avalon 2001–2003 Toyota Highlander/Kluger 2001–2003 Toyota Sienna 2002– Toyota Alphard (Japanese domestic market) 2003–2006 Toyota Camry (V6) -------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Jan 4, 2013 - 10:58 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
Haha... trying to find a 3mz here seems about as hard as finding a black man at a KKK meeting that wants to be there....
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2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jan 4, 2013 - 11:59 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Please please do your own research. There is more than enough info already posted here between Kurt, Smaay, Snapshot, and myself. What you can't already find here you will find on MR2OC in the V6 forum.
-------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Jan 5, 2013 - 12:06 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
Its not a matter of doing the research I've read it all starting with the first v6 swap.
Im asking for personal experience opinions and getting the knowledge that I asked for. Smaay and kurt both seem more than willing to share their input. Im just wanting the firsthand talk so I don't misinterpret anything that has been posted in the past and to get everything in plain view. This post has been edited by NOVAKx17: Jan 5, 2013 - 12:14 AM -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jan 5, 2013 - 12:16 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
yes there are 1MZs with VVT. its got an awesome intake manifold that has dual throttle bodies.
the 3MZ has a plastic manifold and a DBW throttle body only. another thing i might have forgot to mention, you need to get the 5 speed camry/solara exhaust manifolds. both of them dont have a pre CAT in them. plus the rear is angled a little differently so that the shifter cables dont rub it. -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Jan 5, 2013 - 12:20 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
Awesome, thanks man.
Im putting together quite the shopping list of items to look for my next trip to the yard... Also did you run into any issues with your axle setup without the spacer? -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jan 6, 2013 - 11:51 AM
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 Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
Proof of the VVT-i 1MZ, sitting in the engine bay of my RX 300.
 And a picture of the sweet dual throttle body setup, as well as confirmation of drive by cable.  Despite my RX 300 being slower than watching grass grow, I can see how this would be a very fun engine in the Celica. I'd like to see more information surrounding the V6 swaps. -------------------- "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us to use the search button!
 2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage. 1998 Celica GT- BEAMS Swapped. 2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Prenium. 2021 GMC Sierra AT4. |
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Jan 6, 2013 - 7:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
thanks richee.
and yeah i agree, itll be very fun i think! i don't know if i'll be able to cover it as well as smaay or the others but i try to document everything pretty well, and i'm going to start everything in the spring and cover every aspect of it as well as the wiring step by step with tons of pictures as always, so stay tuned my brother (; -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jan 8, 2013 - 11:05 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Think once bills are paid off its time to go engine hunting again lol
Wonder what a v6 tercel would do lol -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's 94 st hatch my daily driver http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235  n |
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Jan 9, 2013 - 12:47 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
no i have had no problems without a spacer in my axle. im using 93+ MR2 LSD inners and ST185 outters. im using the 05 sienna bearing carrier.
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1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Jan 9, 2013 - 1:14 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Jan 8, 2013 - 10:05 PM) Wonder what a v6 tercel would do lol **** will fly faster than it ever has. 
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Jan 9, 2013 - 9:55 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
I just emailed you the engine control documents. let me know if you need anything else
This post has been edited by Smaay: Jan 9, 2013 - 9:55 AM -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Jan 11, 2013 - 1:29 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
also some info in my thread. i went older 3vz because i wanted the boost option later on
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Jan 11, 2013 - 11:26 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 29, '11 From Haltom City, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Someone needs to go ahead and drop a 2gr into a 6gc already. They could even use a 1gr crankshaft to turn it into a 4 liter
The displacement of a 1uz, but it will bolt up to our stock drivetrain. |
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Jan 11, 2013 - 11:34 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
1uz has some smooth power..
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Feb 2, 2013 - 1:32 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
Well its decided. i'm 100% going with a v6 Swap.
i've been looking for the past weeks to buy a 3mz preferably with vvti but haven't been having much luck so if i don't find one soon, i'm just going to buy a 1mz vvti and go from there... going to get the engine (60-80k miles) , harness, ecu, and manifolds for around 700-900 bucks from a dealer friend of the family who specializes in rebuildible vehicle auction buys. so i can't wait to get started, but i'm very nervous about attempting the wiring myself to save money ... i know i can do it, but at the same time i feel like there will be some frustrating errors... -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Feb 2, 2013 - 11:11 PM
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Moderator Joined Jun 29, '08 From Denver Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
1MZ's and 3MZ's are overrated. Everyone and their brother on 6gc has one now. Time to man up and go with the 2GR!
-------------------- "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us to use the search button!
2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage. 1998 Celica GT- BEAMS Swapped. 2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Prenium. 2021 GMC Sierra AT4. |
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Feb 2, 2013 - 11:31 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '09 From Westport, MA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Jan 8, 2013 - 11:05 PM) Wonder what a v6 tercel would do lol I've thought the same thing a few summers ago, or a paseo lol but then thought of another money pit when having to upgrade the suspension and breaks to stop the thing haha This post has been edited by Ted95: Feb 2, 2013 - 11:32 PM -------------------- st205 powered ss3 coupe
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Feb 3, 2013 - 12:00 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
QUOTE (richee3 @ Feb 2, 2013 - 8:11 PM) 1MZ's and 3MZ's are overrated. Everyone and their brother on 6gc has one now. Time to man up and go with the 2GR! there is only 3 or 4 that i can thing of. I dont think the 2GR will fit under the hood. a GT4 hood might allow it but i dont think the OEM one will. also the 2GR is a DBW only and AUTO only so you will be fighting codes. -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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