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• How to Replace the Timing Belt on a 3SGTE by Insanity-74

Tools Used:



* I'm not gonna label each and every single tool used because there's too many to list.

**Just to give you a general idea, you absolutely NEED a full assortment of ratchets, sockets, extensions,
screw drivers, wrenches, two hydraulic jacks, jack stands, pulley puller, crowbar (or breaker bar),
some sort of marker (ie touch up paint or 'White-Out'), a way in sorting out nuts & bolts removed, determination and patience.

***It's optional to have: set of pliers, a short pick, a hammer, some liquid gasket maker,
a pipe (used as an extension for tight bolts), and impact ratchets (makes doing/undoing bolts faster).






Parts to Order:



Timing Belt
13568-09041 (for 5SFE)
13568-19056 (for 7AFE)



Water Pump Kit (Water Pump Gaskets are included)
16100-79185-83 (for 5SFE)
16100-19305-83 (for 7AFE)



Thermostat and Thermostat Gasket
90916-03046 & 16325-63011 (for both 5SFE & 7AFE btwn 94-95)
90916-03090 & 16325-63011 (for 5SFE btwn 96-99)
90916-03115 & 16325-63011 (for 7AFE btwn 96-99)



Coolant (If you're replacing your water pump)







Follow this guideline here as well:
**** http://www.celicatech.com/93rmsour/1993/93...a/em/timin0.pdf






Intro
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My car is now at 125,270 kms (77,806 miles). Although, still a bit young but a good age to do a timing belt change as it has never been done since it came from the factory. I think 13 years, regardless of mileage, is long enough of a reason to have it replaced. So why not just get a complete tune up?
So I bought a bunch of OEM tune up parts recently: timing belt, water pump, thermostat, TRD oil filters, coolant, spark plug wires, distributor cap, rotor, oxygen sensor, and a few other bits that were missing from my car.

I've already done the easy half of the tune up. The distributor cap and rotor were replaced. New spark plug wires were put on. My spark plugs are still new so I didn't bother getting new ones. An oil change was done just a few days ago.





Now comes for the harder half of the tune up: timing belt and water pump replacement.
For this, it's best to have everything in the timing belt area to be changed. This consists of also replacing both idler and tensioner pulleys but due to the lack of funds, I didn't order them.

After a lot of searching for possible how-to's or guides to changing a timing belt, the only one I found useful was the BGB manual on CelicaTech.net found here. The most discouraging part of the search was the numerous comments made about this being a very difficult task and that someone with an 'average' level of mechanical experience is better off getting it professionally done by an expert. This is my first time doing a timing belt change or anything regarding an engine that simply isn't 'bolt-on' per se or had anything to do with regular maintenance. After successfully completing this for the first time, I would agree to what everyone says. It's a lot of work, requires a lot of tools, can be very frustrating having to set the timing right by the 'tooth'. But the big question is:

"Was it worth doing this myself? or should I have forked out a few hundred dollars out of my own pocket and have had a professional do this for me?"

That all depends on the individual. After reading this guideline, one must decide whether it would be worth his or her time provided that he/she has the necessary tools to attempt such a task..

imo, with my dad's tools and garage and my desire to learn more about celicas and engines in general, it was definitely worthwhile doing this myself.









Procedure
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1. Put the car on jackstands. Don't lift it too high but high enough that the hydraulic jack will reach the bottom of the engine oil pan for lifting. Ensure you have a lot of room around to work with.






2. Place some sort of soft cloth (or that pad that mechanics use) to cover the body around the engine bay so that one could lean over without damaging the paint.


Something bigger than what I used would have been a lot better.




3. Disconnect the negative terminal from your battery. Remove the strut bar (a combination of 14mm on the firewall and 12mm bolts on the strut mounts if you are using the stock one). Remove the harnesses attached to the alternator. Loosen the rear 14mm bolt pivoting the alternator to the motor. Loosen the 12mm clamping bolt on the side to allow the alternator to adjust. Now loosen the top bolt on the alternator bracket to lower the alternator. This loosens the belt for the next step.







4. Now that the belt is loose, remove it. Now, remove the rear bolt pivoting the alternator and the clamping bolt on the side. Remove the alternator.






5. Remove the passenger side wheel. Remove the passenger side lower splash guard. If you're replacing your water pump, drain your coolant. The drainage plug is located on the lower passenger side of the radiator. The plug looks like a winged nut and can be undone without tools. Make sure the engine has already cooled down before draining the system.



This post has been edited by azian_advanced: Aug 10, 2011 - 7:37 AM

... back from the dead.

Does anyone run without the timing covers on?

This is a great how-to. There are a few steps that could be done in a different sequence; but this coupled with the Chilton will make this job less difficult. I've done this a couple times and now know what to expect; be sure to have more time than originally planned.

i know this thing is way old but did anyone else have trouble with the crankshaft bolt? any bolt/screwdriver i could get in the holes are to small to really do anything other than just bend or break when going at it with a breaker bar?? and well honestly an ipact is out of the question for me for money reasons.m is there anywhere else i could hold it from? thanks in advance for any advice.

put the car in gear and have someone hold th brake pedal down, then use a long breaker bar. that should do it

Brace the breaker bar agaisnt either the lower control arm or the ground and briefly crank the starter. It will get the bolt loose everytime

Oh, I forgot to thank you when I used this tutorial....

Last year, I paid a repair shop to change the timing belt, and at the time I just didn't think I needed to do the water pump. Well I got it back from them and the car was missing and sputtering etc... obviously the timing, so I took it back to them.

It came back again running, but seemed like I had bent a rod in the whole timing belt fiasco of 11. Well fast forward a year and the water pump seizes up, low and behold, this time I decide I'm going to conquer it myself, so I follow this tutorial.

First I had to go to the pawn shop and pay $25.00 for a corded impact wrench and some other misc tools, but after that, off and running. I also want to give a shout out to RockAuto.com for the excellent parts and fast shipping on the timing belt/water pump/tensioners kit that I purchased also. It was a breeze with the instructions and pics.

Thanks, thanks, thanks....

Oh again as a side note, I've started purchasing nearly all my parts for the gen 6 celica on RockAuto.com they have a ton of the wear parts we go through and offer economy, daily driver, and performance parts for most the stuff we use on these cars.

Great Tutorial, follow it and you should be successful

RockAuto is a solid site, not just for buying but for price comparison and part number sources including pictures.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Sep 28, 2012 - 11:52 AM

@azian_advanced you're a legend! I used your post and did my '91 ST184 celica, 2.2 5SFE and it works great now. for mechanically illiterates like me, I could have used some more info regarding the oil seals change from the camshaft, oil pump and crankshaft, and also strengthening the timing belt after replacing it, but apart from that it was going great. I guess following these steps anyone can do the timing belt replacement with little trouble. For those that own a celica like mine, I would like to add that the top cover of the timing belt does come off with a bit of extra force as the brake pump is in the way.

Any ideas about changing the power steering pressure hose?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!


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I do, no problems at all. I lost the covers actually... probably because a bolt fell in destroying my brand new belt d=-( so i tossed it across the shop lol... but ya no biggie

if someone will do this for the 3sge

Hi!

I'm sorry to bother you, but I am just about to take upon this project myself. But the pictures on your photobucket have expired. Is there any way for you to repost it?

Thank You!

I have just finished my timing belt, water pump, and oil pump! It wouldn't have been possible without your hope! Thank you!

this was a big help, but I wish i'd of been better prepared for the bolts on the psteering pump, and the bottom of the motor bracket. You need a long skinny 14mm like a serpentine belt tool. when you guys pull that motor mount bracket how do you get to it? in the pics here it looks like you've got it jscked all the way up.
on my neon there was a hole in the firewall right through the fenderwell where you could put a socket right through it.
tomorrow when I put it bCK TOGETHER I may get the hole saw out...

Ill add a couple of pics to help anybody who is taking this apart for the first time. If you're a pro mechanic you've probably got all kinds of extra tools for those specialy tricky spots.
Here are a couple you'll need for the Celica, mine is a 1994 ST204 with a replaced 5s-fe ( I think it came out of a later model Camary because they shaved a few inches off the bell housing to make the oilpan fit)

The deal is that to get to the upper bolt on the power steering pump, and the three bolts that hold the engine mounting bracket the motor are a Beeatch.
Fist thing you'll wish you had is a nice long skinny socket of some sort, I happened to already have one they sell as a "serpentine belt tool"


These bolts are 14mm , the other wrench you'll be glad to have is a 14mm with a box-end ratchet, one with a 45* angle, the straight one won't help ya much.
they sell nice Durolast ones at Auto Zone in singles so you don't have to buy the whole set.

After the whole thing is apart you've only got these few parts off the car



When I first got mine the guy told me he put a new clutch and a new motor in it, and he replaced the timing belt while he had it out, but it made a funny whiirrrr noise, He said "I think maybe I got the timing belt too tight"
Which I thought was strange, and I assumed surely he had replaced the water pump while he was at it.. sure.

after two months the whiirr noise turned into the familiar squak squak of a water pump and a little dribble below the motor gave it away for sure.
I got a Gates timing belt kit including both pulleys and new spring, the kit came with two springs, one for the 1.8L and one for the 2.2L
the spring for the 2.2 is a little longer, but when I got it apart I found the spring on there was different from both of them


the one on the top it the brand new one and the one on the bottom is the one I found on it,
notice they are about the same length, yet the bottom one has a different amount of coils, This would most certainly make for a different tension even though the
length is the same, either way, I don't like to play around and so I make sure to replace the belt, idler, tensioner, spring, water pump all together.
and IDK if the dude just found this random spring somewhere or what but it sounds a whole lot better now

a video guide sure will help... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rNZgg-c22w

make sure to watch the part 2 as well....

One of the best write up I have seen thus far. When I bought the car, I had a friend retired Toyota mechanic who replaced it for me at dealer cost but that was still close to 300 with parts. i have book marked this site for future use.

thank You OP!