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Hey guys for those of you who dont kno me, my names Cameron. As some of you may kno this past march i was deciding on whether to buy and do a Beams swap or a 3rd GEN 3sgte swap. well when buying a set of sideskirts off of Dustin and Stef, i got the privelage of driving both there Beams swap and Dustins 3rd Gen swap. the Beams a very fun car and altho i honestly wasnt used to the power the 3rd gen put out, it was clear to me for the same money i could have a fast and fun 3rd gen.

Sooo... i talked to my friend Manny and asked who to go to for a 3rd gen set and he sent me to Jim and went from there. i actually recieved my motor the same day as Manny did, (since we live 20min from each other, his swap just went a lil faster then mines to complete since ive been going paycheck to paycheck since ive bought the motor to finish everything lol)

so this is what i got from jim and my progress since getting it. (Alot of the pics were just refrence pics for myself as i was going along so sorry of some of the pics r kinda stupid lol)

when it came off the truck..



i didnt buy the set with the TMIC so this is what i really got after Jim took the TM off lol


these are all cellphone pics so srry if quality isnt the best at times














last time the timing belt was done lol reads February 28, 2002 according to vince. and its like roughly 37k miles



then i started to take things apart to clean the motor up a bit and start refreshing it.. i missed out on some pics here and there but here is what i got

took the manifold off and took a page out of Mannys build and shaved the manifold a bit.. didnt take pics while i was doing it tho

after i sanded and clean the manifold b4 paint



Throttle body b4 cleaned and painted




manifold b4 clear coated.. forgot to take a pic when it was finished..




Preparing valve cover



after clear coat






then disaster... as i was taking the AWD tranny off i cracked my upper oil pan just under the clutch dust cover.. (this is my first swap... and ya, i made a mistake lol)






thats next on my list of things to do lol .. its not that bad of a fix tho honestly, it can b fixed with the pan on the motor which is what i will b doing.

new berk 3in fully loaded DP







and as she sits now



also some other part info..

Mannys old FMIC from his 5FSTE which i will be using for my FM set up
pics upside down lol


resurfaced flywheel



and as for the rest, my water pump should come in tomorrow so i can do my T-belt and pump, IC piping is on its way (2.5in) .. i also have a 3in electric cut out i will be using, a HKS SSQV black BOV, Devils own WI, and a prosport premium boost gauage..

last thing on the list is Tweaks stage 4 6 puck sprung comp clutch (keeping my s54 tranny). and 3" piping for my b-pipe.

the swap should happen towards the end of this month, hopefully in a few weeks or so.

comments and questions if any

This post has been edited by Ted95: Jul 9, 2013 - 1:38 PM

he's just keeping it fwd.

no im just keeping it fwd, no need for awd for me lol. to much work and money, im happy with fwd

anyways, so after work today i manage to bleed the brakes and finish my battery relocation. alls thats left is to drop the motor in lol i just need to find some time this week to do so, ill keep you guys posted!

so yesterday was a big day guys, the motor is in! me and my dad spent the day putting the 3s in, it was our first time doin it but it went very smooth. we had a few things come up here and there but thats expected, heres some pics.

















modded the 5s throttle cable braket




kk time for some questions lol.. idk what these things are or connect to..

this i thnk my dad took off the tranny while painting it but i have no idea where it goes or what it is.. lol




also have a couple plugs and a few hoses


would these connect to the TMIC? im not running one so i can take them off right?
are they going to piss everywhere at first start up??


where does this guy go to? lol

and finally him.. please and thank you lol

still a good amount to be done, im workin alot this weekend but hopin to get it started up tomorrow! idk if it will be ready for the CSP meet since i still need the IC piping done and bpipe but we will see, ill still be there either way

Lookin' good man congrats.
Is this the first time someone put a 3sgte in an coupe?

thanks man its been along time coming. and no its been done b4 in a coupe, people prefer hatches tho.

the bracket gets thrown away.

the large hose normally would connect to your intake (its for the IAC valve), if you did like i did and stuck a filter on the tube (which is what it looks like from the pics, you can remove that hose.
the little one normally connects the BPV. the other end of the hardline should have a hose connected to the intake manifold. you can use it as a vac source for the BOV, or cap it at the intake manifold and remove the whole thing. (you still need a vac source for the BOV tho)
i explained the blue plug to you over on facebook, the other one i cant really make out too well, is the starter connected? maybe the signal plug for it?
getting close to firing it up man!! looking good too!

do you have the throttle cable bracket installed? i noticed its not in the pics.

looks awesome man coupe FTW! weight is on our side

little frustrated right now, motor is in, everythings connected but car wont turn over... im going to recheck my grounds and all my connections again tomorrow, or maybe later tonight, idk.. its been a long day lol .. ill keep u guys posted.

soo today..sigh...i went out to the garage after work and played around with conections and grounds, and still.. nothing.. im pretty sure im not gettin enough power to my starter bc when i FIRST go to start up the car for the first time of the day, the starter ingages and then nothing... when i turn the key that fans turns on, the fuel pump is deffinately on and i have power to everything... but nada

ive done everything i could and can think of in regards to electrical and w.e ever ways there is to get this swap running lol ive been learning as im goin with this swap but i reached a tough problem that i cant figure out.

all the battery lugs are tight and all the connectors are connected as far as i kno.. any advice would be appriciated.

maybe check all of your grounds?

I had a problem like that when I rebuilt the head on my supra and accidentally connected the engine ground to the + on the starter which gave a similar diagnosis, after reconnecting it to the intake manifold where it should have been, it cranked up fine.

Maybe, I kno m,y battery ground is good bc I took a grinder to the chassis and seat bracket down to bare metal, I'm going to have to recheck the grouinds that connect to my strut towers, I checked them b4 but ill do it again..

But even then, I swapped batterys yesterday to see if my battery was just low while havin the charger on it and still nothing. I even took the charger and connected it to the positive lug up front (bc my battery is now in the trunk) and grounded the charger in the bay and nothing lol ... ill look at it again tonight after work and see what happens




Maybe, I kno m,y battery ground is good bc I took a grinder to the chassis and seat bracket down to bare metal, I'm going to have to recheck the grouinds that connect to my strut towers, I checked them b4 but ill do it again..

But even then, I swapped batterys yesterday to see if my battery was just low while havin the charger on it and still nothing. I even took the charger and connected it to the positive lug up front (bc my battery is now in the trunk) and grounded the charger in the bay and nothing lol ... ill look at it again tonight after work and see what happens

couple pics ..

make sure the ignitor has a solid ground connetion as well thru the bracket to the firewall as well..although, IIRC if it was that, it would crank over.
im pretty sure i have a couple spare starters in the garage, but i dont think that a bad starter is your issue.

ya i dont think its the ignitor or a "bad" starter either.. the starter was perfectly fine b4 i started the swap and i have power to everything but the starter it seems like. everything is tight tho so i dont get it .. could it be my clutch start switch, well pin? i looked at the pin today and it seem okay. im just not gettin enough juice to the starter lol .. ive done everything i could so far, i need another set of eyes to take a look see if i missed anything. Dustin is supposed to come by tomorrow so hopefully we can figure out whats goin on with this bad larry.

have you check COR and the clutch start switch wiring ?

ya i checked it yesterday and seemed ok. im going to unplug it today and peel back the tape and stuff and recheck the wires to make sure they didnt come apart from when i plugged it in.. i dont think thats what it is but it could be, maybe its barely touching and thats why it ingages but then doesnt turn it over lol.. we will see.

so what happened today Cam ?

hehehe git er done!
he left here a bit ago with a starter...
probably be back next wednesday iwth the car for bpipe an intercooler piping

haha wellll today was a big day to say the least! today after a year of and a half of preparing, i finally got to start up my 3rd Gen 3sgte!

this after noon Dustin and Stef came by the garage and helped with the car bc i could not figure out why i couldnt start my car. i knew there was somethin stupid but i just couldnt figure it out and everytime i turned the key to start it i got nothing, i tried and tried but got nothing

so heres the good part.. Dustin and Stef happened to come by the garage while i was down the street at the store. soo this first thing Dustin did when he got there was look at the quick and said "lets hear what it sounds like" which must be a secret ancient celica password bc he then jumped in the car, turned the key it started it up! did it was seconds b4 i pulled in the driveway and shut it off before i heard it.

i then walk in the garage he said hey start it up, aand nothing... lol Dustin was suprised as well as Stef and my dad.

anyways, we found out that the starter was no good and i had a bad ground.
i ended up using the starter from there awesome Rav4 so we slapped it on and found a bad ground that started to smoke.
then we made a new and stronger ground wire and BAM shes running.

i called up Manny and asked if he had any starters around and he did so i ran up there later on and picked up a starter. i put on the new starter and bam starts up.

im VERY excited that its in the car and running, been a long time coming and a HUGE learning experience during this whole swap and happy because of it.

ill get some pics up tomorrow, was to caught up with the car and forgot to take some pics lol
BIG thanks to my friends Dustin and Stef for giving me a hand during this swap. i couldnt have done it with out you guys, thank you.

couple quick pics as i walked out..




This post has been edited by Ted95: Jun 7, 2011 - 11:25 PM

So first off I wanted to say I had a great time at the CSP meet today, def a good time.
Here are some pics of the car over the past few days, been really busy haven’t been able to take all the pics I wanted to as ive gone along with it but heres what I got 

This is what I had as I was just trying to get it connected so I can start it up lol

Then started tightening up a bit




I painted the white plastic cover for the relay harness black to hide it a bit and unclipped the yellow loom and tucked it to the side, just to make it look neat, as well as cut the washer fluid neck and paint that black as well.




Strut bar back on

Moved some plugs around to make the wires look a little more neat



Motor pics




also slapped on the freshly painted GTS wheels in the back and put some junk steelies on the front so i dont smoke the GTS wheels on its first few drives .. or Manny for that matter




So far things are going well, still need to button a couple things up between tomorrow and Monday, cars being shipped to Mannys Tuesday to have the bpipe done and do the IC piping as well, then she will be on the road VERY excited

This post has been edited by Ted95: Jun 11, 2011 - 8:08 PM