 99 celica GT VS. 00(+) celica gts, who would take who??? |
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 Jun 15, 2004 - 10:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 26, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
do you think a 99 celica would take a 00+ celica gts?
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Jun 15, 2004 - 10:16 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Sep 4, '03 From Twin Cities MN Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
mabey up through second gear... after that the GT-S would own you...
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Jun 15, 2004 - 10:18 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 6, '03 From Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
With NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWZ! Nope, a GT would be a match for a newer GT sort of, then you would probably get owned. I dunno, I can own 7th gen GT-S easily in my car but thats cuz the only 4 down here are all automatics and the kids think their cheap parts add 100 hp 
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Jun 15, 2004 - 10:19 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
a 6th gen GT will easily beat a 7th gen GT.. but a GT-S.. they have bad turbo lag.. and maybe if you combine that with an automatic trans...
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Jun 15, 2004 - 10:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 6, '03 From Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I think you mean lift?
I've seen one GT-S that used lift through all 6 gears and he was actually keeping up and was next to my rear quarter panel. Lift is actually badass on a GT-S and can screw some faster cars. Dunno about the GT thing, their nothing against me but if a 6th gen GT can beat a 7th gen then thats cool. |
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Jun 15, 2004 - 10:51 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '04 From California Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
GT-S is not turbo'ed so what turbo lag? and yes the GT-S would own your 6gc GT. i have one sitting outside and it was pretty quick with the AC on full blast. |
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Jun 15, 2004 - 11:24 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 6, '03 From Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
What does the A/C have to do with anything? You lose that .000000000001 HP with having it on
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Jun 16, 2004 - 12:20 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 15, '03 From Aurora IL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
a 00 GT-S will spank your ass, for sure. If the driver is competent enough..
if it is an automatic GT-S, you may be able to not get your ass handed to you so badly. auto gt-s's are slow as hell, because lift engages at 6000rpm & above. no amount of good driving can make up for that problem. they have to mash the pedal and pray for the best. i'd try it out. if they have a 6 speed, and know how to stay in lift, you won't stand a chance. good luck. This post has been edited by sinner96ST: Jun 16, 2004 - 12:28 AM |
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Jun 16, 2004 - 12:59 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
yea... new GTS=own your mom. with about two grand= own your grandmom.
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Jun 16, 2004 - 1:58 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
An auto GT-S was no problem for me, and i test drove a TRD edition GT 5 spd. I don't think i have ever been more dissapointed with a Toyo in my life.
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Jun 16, 2004 - 3:50 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 16, '03 From Bay area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
actually a/c affects the HP alot. that is why some people remove the compressor pump to free up some more HP. if a/c did affect performance the under driven pully system would be less popular. |
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Jun 16, 2004 - 4:20 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 24, '03 From Cyprus Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Correct, the A/C surely affects the hp.
The U.S. GT though is really so slow that there is no contest with the 7gen GT-S. The SS-III with the Beams engine would give the GT-S a hard time but i am not sure if it would win as i think the GT-S is prolly lighter and if 6-speed then it may also have better transmission changes. |
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Jun 16, 2004 - 8:09 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 30, '03 From Cyprus Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I think the GT-S will win the race.
I agree with Neoklis about the weight,now about the SSIII VS GT-S it is a drivers fight and i think that if the SSIII have a good lounch then it will keep at the end. |
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Jun 16, 2004 - 10:19 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
7th gen no questions asked, ive driven both, that GTS screams, my girlfriend should be getting hers here real soon.
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Jun 16, 2004 - 10:38 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From North Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
My 99 GT would own a stock GTS
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Jun 16, 2004 - 2:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '03 From milwaukee, wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
a manuel 00 gts would severely destroy a manuel 99 6 gen. i guess a turboed 99 would give it a run for its money. i would guess though that even a auto vs auto the gts would still win with or without the vvti kicking in.
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Jun 16, 2004 - 2:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
A turbos 99 would win- our engines start out bigger than the wimpy 130 hp matrix. booo matrix engine
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Jun 16, 2004 - 7:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '04 From Houston Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
HEY!!! I HAVE A MATRIX!!! = ( an XRS though... = )
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Jun 16, 2004 - 7:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
The Matrix XRS in P.R. get better quarter mile times than the GT-S. But they're heavier, right? Shouldn't they be slower?
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Jun 17, 2004 - 12:00 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
who knows. there are guys with gts' hitting low 14's to 13's spending less money than it would take me to turbocharge my car... then I'd hit... what... 15's?
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Jun 17, 2004 - 12:57 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 15, '03 From Aurora IL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
they use that powerFC w/ a pre-tuned program that makes the celi push harder.. some guy on newcelica is pushing mid/high 13's with basic weight reduction & that fuel management system. pretty sweet. |
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Jun 18, 2004 - 12:39 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '04 From California Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Phat_Boi dont comment when you dont know what your talking about... the reason i commented... was because i knew what i was saying. you tried to prove me wrong and make me look stupid... but... ya you get the point |
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Jun 18, 2004 - 9:42 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
He's running a little more than just the FC, but they (the few guys doing the NA 13's) have a secret. They are all running on drag slicks to put down those times. It's killing their trannys. |
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Jun 18, 2004 - 10:41 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 15, '03 From Aurora IL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i wondered why and or how they can push those numbers on a track.. i think the post on newcelica.org, the guy who was running the 13's had an exhaust, weght reduction, cold air intake, and that powerFC. plus the slicks now.. interesting stuff. |
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Jun 20, 2004 - 8:45 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Hollywood, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
the gts would kill you once the vvti kicked in
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Jun 20, 2004 - 11:31 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
14's turboed at 8psi you would hit 14's in an st-t i heard that those guys running fast times with na GTS's is mainly due to the weight reduction, that its not minor reduction. and drag slicks make a huge difference, especially on a car with no low end torque like a GTS, lets them launch harder and at a higher rpm so that they hit lift a lot sooner. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Jun 20, 2004 - 10:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
yep, every one of them that puts down killer times was using some kind of drag radial. The main one has Serious tranny problemsnow... and I have heard of several others with them.
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Jun 20, 2004 - 10:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 11, '04 From Wake Forest, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
01' GTS w/ drag radials, CIA, catback exhaust, and power fc, and only drivers seat, and no spair and stuff. he's running like 13.5sec. 1/4mile, i've talked to him b4, hes on like clubcelica.com or somethin
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Jun 21, 2004 - 11:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
newcelica.org. Go to racing stories and look at the time slips.
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