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 Oct 4, 2004 - 4:22 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Jun 29, '03 From canoga park , ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
so i need a bad ass auto. with bad ass axels. im going to be putting in a 7afte on steriods, so i need help. i dont want to install a manual tranny. its to much work and to much money. is there any good axels that will bolt up with the 7a. and is there any diehard autos that will bolt up. please help me!!!!!!!!.
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Oct 4, 2004 - 6:14 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 7, '04 From charlotte N.C. Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
your best bet is probably going to be a 4agze auto tranny. and your probably gonna have to go custom for the axels or maybe a hybrid style.
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Oct 4, 2004 - 7:02 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 2, '03 From Annandale VA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
from what ive heared the 7afte will run beautifuly on stock auto tranny up to 8 psi... and over that will blow your engine.
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Oct 4, 2004 - 7:15 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
you can get new axels at carquest.
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Oct 5, 2004 - 3:12 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 29, '03 From canoga park , ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
umm lagos are they good stong axels though. or just replacement .and im going to have a 7agte (maybe a z in there to) so the 7afe auto wont hack it.
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Oct 5, 2004 - 11:03 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Whoever said that doesn't know what he's talking about and probably doesn't even own a 7A-FTE and he just heard it from somebody else. It's a filthy vicious circle. My tranny holds up fine and shifts as good as when the car was stock and I run 12 PSI with stock injectors trying to kill the engine. -------------------- Past - 7A-FTE: Will never forget you
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Oct 5, 2004 - 1:33 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 25, '02 From Pittsburgh/Clairton, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
lol
and it just wont die, huh? 
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Oct 5, 2004 - 4:30 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 29, '03 From canoga park , ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hmm ok but do you run it like regular use. or do you road course it. when i say road course i mean tight turns doing 60 on a 25 mph turn, well down****ting it into second so you get more tourque. then ****ing it back up to drive and punching as you get out of the turn??? casue thats the kind of tranny i need and my engine is going to be a 7 a g z t e. so i need a very strong tranny.
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Oct 5, 2004 - 4:37 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
so your twincharging the motor meaning 7af "t" "z"e the t being turbo and the z being a supercharger i would just turbo it might look into 4agze tranny with lsd(watch i'm still researching) see if those axels from the 4agze will work.
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Oct 5, 2004 - 8:14 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
He's going to have the first ever 7agtze...hmmm good luck! (4age head swap, custom turbo, and supercharge???...neat...uhhhhh)
Sorry but yeah. I think you should be fine with your tranny. Maybe have a tranny shop that is reputable take it apart and replace anything that needs replacing...and then get a high performance torque converter that has a higher stall rate so you can get good launches at around 3500rpm so you got some spool when you're launching it. Other than that...just keep it around 8-10 psi, 8for daily driving 10 at the track. Make sure it's intercooled...and you should be golden. I think 97sccelica would be the best to ask about this because he turbo'd his automatic ST with some success until I think he blew it up. He could probably tell you where he went wrong and you can go from there. He has always said he can be asked about that stuff so ask him. -------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE 02 WRX --> This is for speed - Borla Exhaust - TurboXS BOV - Custom CAI 02 Civic EX - MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components - Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors - Alpine Type S Rear Fills - 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box - Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors - Alpine M605 on each Type R - Phoenix Gold wiring - Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit - Alpine Amp link - 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps - The best Viper 791 alarm install ever |
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Oct 5, 2004 - 8:20 PM
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 Moderator Joined Apr 17, '03 From Rockland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
The 7afe tranny is very solid. Like mentioned above look into the 4agze tranny. Unless you dump alot of money into a turbo 7a, you prolly wont hurt the axles.
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Oct 5, 2004 - 8:21 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 29, '03 From canoga park , ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yea its goin to be a very custom setup. like some other people said the supercharger will give me the low end tourque us 4 cylinders lack. and the turbo wil the keep the beast alive, well in the high gears/revs.
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Oct 5, 2004 - 8:23 PM
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Moderator Joined Apr 17, '03 From Rockland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
umm.. how much money you plan on spending ?
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Oct 5, 2004 - 8:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 29, '03 From canoga park , ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
as much as it takes. over 1 yr buying little random things i should be fine. like 600 a month on average for parts is what im goin to set aside. i wish my parents were rich id just have it all now.
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Oct 6, 2004 - 10:57 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 22, '04 From West Lafayette, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Somewhat related...
I'm planning on a 3S swap in an auto GT, and have been told by virtually everyone to do a manual swap. As much as I like the idea, I think that I could get by with an auto just fine. Will the axels for a GT hold that kind of power? (I'm looking at having the tranny built, and modding no higher than 300hp) |
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Oct 6, 2004 - 4:21 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 29, '03 From canoga park , ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
nah the gt ones will break were gonna need to hybrid our axels. and im going to try an. fit a 4age auto tranny.
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Oct 6, 2004 - 4:43 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '02 From Va Team 6gc Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Okay the only problem i see other than that the trannie might be week is that u need a ecu to run it.
Okay this wont work at all because he's got a gt that a S series motor not an A. --------------------  All I have in this world is my Balls and my Word and I'm not breaking em for no one,- Tony Montana Team 6gc 2005 |
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Oct 6, 2004 - 5:53 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Am I the only one chuckling while reading all of this? heheheh...
-------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Oct 6, 2004 - 6:09 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
no, youre not $600 a month over 12 months? well, www.levelten.com they can sell you tranny controlers, shift kits and performance torque converters, or sel you a "indestructible" tranny for around $3k so thats about half your budget there and that still leaves you with the need of a tranny cooler(if you plan to abuse it like you say you will) or stronger axles or even a completely custom lsd. and with $4200 remaining, you wont get it running. you will need a complete 4agze to get the SC, the electronics and head. then you need a good set of internals, among a crap load or other things, expensive things like an ems, a sc to turbo switch over system, intercooler, piping, etc. it would take atleast 10k, and thats if you do all the labor yourself. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Oct 6, 2004 - 6:39 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 22, '04 From West Lafayette, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Screw it, I'm doing a manual conversion, I'll just plan on my celly being down for a bit longer...
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Oct 6, 2004 - 6:48 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Umm, game, set, match.
yea, you don't need the supercharger and G head. The 7a head is actually all you would need if you aren't going to run Mass boost levels. Plus, the turbo size for a 7a (T-3ish) gives you plenty of boost at low RPM. Trust me, with the turbo you will spin your tires till you want to stop. there is no reason to SC it. that's just going to cause LOADS of stress on your system. Just turbo. if you want hella power, 500 will install NICE Arias pistons. With That set up you could boost 12-14 psi no problem as long as the tuning was right. So, we could both have ten grand: you could go 7agtze and I coud go 7afte built to hell and I (with my 12+ psi) would destroy you on a road course and annialate you on the 4th. Facts are facts. they might not seem near as exotic, but hey, if it's your thing, go for it. But if it's about power, build the 7afe and Tcharge it Here you have to ask yourself. Do I want a 200whp 7a running 14's or a 3rd gen 3sgte built with 300+hp running 13's? you decide. EDIT: page 2 
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Oct 6, 2004 - 9:33 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 4, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
how about with all that damn money instead of destroying a 7a just drop a 3s in and be happy.
why does everyone have to make things so damn difficult, this thread is a joke. --------------------  hows it taste motha f*cka |
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Oct 6, 2004 - 9:51 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 29, '03 From canoga park , ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
first of all the 7afe is still a fe head. the ge is a true twin design. so no you wouldnt smoke me cause once you reach full boost your head will crack and so wil your intake manifold. and i dont need a s/c your right but it would be cool. anyway when i started this thread i wasnt looking to compete or show off i just wanted know if it was posible. oh and one more thing there no 7afe internals that will achive 12 psi for daily use. sorry yoru gonna ahve to go ge. thanks guys wish me luck.
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Oct 6, 2004 - 10:01 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You know, you shouldn't talk the talk unless you can walk the walk. Opening your mouth only proves you know less and less... Do you even know what's involved in a head swap? These debates are just getting silly. -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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Oct 6, 2004 - 10:02 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Dont get me wrong, I'm not trying to be adversarial, I am just stating facts. Custom rods and custom pistons will run about $500 eachish depending on where you get them. they will Easily take 12psi if they get proper fuel mixture. The crank can be shot peened or cryo treated, and then it will Easily handle 12 psi. HKS piston rings... performance bearings...(don't remember where to find them off hand, but they are out there. HKS or Blitz head gasket... that, in conjunction with the Iron block 7a and that is a Solid 7a short block. The head is simply a grand or so machine work and you have easy 12+psi. when you pop the hood it won't be as pretty as a 7age, but hey, it's fast as whoa |
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Oct 6, 2004 - 10:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 29, '03 From canoga park , ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ehh im done. im just gonna rig a mr2 tranny and turn it into a rear wheel drive... late. and yes i do know whats involved with a head swap. ive been reading and searching for 1 yr now. i know you own every toyota kwanza. but just because i dont go in depth with my posts. doesnt mean i dont know what im talking about.
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Oct 6, 2004 - 10:10 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
PROOF that you know NOTHING. MR2 tranny and go RWD... LOL... the MR2 uses a FWD tranny...  Honestly now... I try to be nice and stuff... but I'm just not as nice as some of the other guys when people start talking trash. This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Oct 6, 2004 - 10:11 PM -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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Oct 7, 2004 - 2:03 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 29, '03 From canoga park , ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hmm lets read again, shall we??? im getting a mr2 tranny.......and turn it into a rear wheel drive....... turn meaning change. and your never nice. even if someone asks a simple question..your an ass.
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Oct 7, 2004 - 7:14 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Maryland Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
He's direct. Thats what alot of people around here need. There are many dreamers around here [rollseyes/] and he does what it takes to keep people from killing themselves. Everyone that has posted in this thread so far has tried to re-direct you cause you seem to want it all..... Bad ass auto, Twin charge, rear wheel drive........Decide damnit.
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Oct 7, 2004 - 9:39 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
easy gang. lets not bash like celica.net.
if you want to go RWD, it would probably be easier to start with a JDM 3sgte altezza tranny (RWD tranny) then trying to have everything custom built. And also, here is hoping you have a hatch back! |
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Oct 7, 2004 - 9:46 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
ok IMPO with the 7afe engine one path you can go rebuild the 7afe internals coated etc put a T-3 or t3-t4 with all the little goodies bigger injector, fuel computer ,fuel rail, FPR, pump ,etc. Then head work p&p grind the shafts,etc.
then you should have 250whp at 12-14 psi daily driver/weekend drag car or what ever running. i think anything over 250-300 is a waste on a FF car.One last thing all this will not be cheap and dont get that cheap stuff get the good products the first time.  ok i'm done
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Oct 7, 2004 - 10:25 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
and keep in mind this could probably be done with about 5k instead of ten. |
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Oct 7, 2004 - 10:48 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
the MR2 tranny doesnt work with a driveshaft, the E-153 mounts transversely, parallel to a transverse motor so the drive axles are right below the engine. reguardless the E-153 wont bolt to a 7A motor without some very expensive machining of adaptor plates. the altezza never had a 3sgte in it, i believe it was only a 3sge or a 3sfe for the base model, then they used the 2jz for their higher end. and no, 10k is much more realistic than 5k. unless you do all the work yourself. --------------------  Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Oct 7, 2004 - 11:32 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Maryland Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Why not stay FWD and be the first to use a LSD? Its still something never before done.
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Oct 7, 2004 - 4:49 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 29, '03 From canoga park , ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
thanks boosted. i had read somewhere that you could do that, oh well. and i will be doing all the work myself, i trust no one under my hood. and at this point my baby is goin rwd. its just goin to happen i dont care how but it is. and it would be a total of 7,600 that i could save. so once again im going to have a lot of work cut out. but it will be well worth it in the end.
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Oct 7, 2004 - 5:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 4, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
you trust nobody but yet you dont know anything about your car??
i belive its time for you too rethink your dreams little one. and if you still think you can go RWD then you might as well buy a rear clip from a GT4 because thats about the only way its gonna happen. and dont plan on driving your car withiin the next year either. -------------------- hows it taste motha f*cka |
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Oct 7, 2004 - 6:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 29, '03 From canoga park , ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well that was the idea but it wont take a year to do it. but im done with discussing these topics. i will post next year when i have a rwd 7agte untile then goodbye.
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Oct 7, 2004 - 10:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
if you are going to use the 7a then you could re-build a AE86 tranny and use it. From there the rest is basically knowing what goes where. if you are expecting 200+hp though, you had better have some hella strong welds.
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Oct 8, 2004 - 1:08 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I believe the W series trannies bolt up to the S series motors. W series trannies can be found on old-school RWD Celicas, Supras, and Trucks.
Now I'll ask... do you know what's involved in doing a rear wheel drive swap? I could just explain in detail.... but I've already done that before... This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Oct 8, 2004 - 1:11 AM -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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Oct 8, 2004 - 4:28 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 29, '03 From canoga park , ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yea me and some 5th gens are all doing rwd drive swaps. its gonna be a pain.. but i mean how many rwd 6th gens have you seen. so yea its gonan be long and boring. but at least its worth it in the end.
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Oct 8, 2004 - 10:35 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
mathmatical yes, boring...? I don't think so. 
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