Its Back, in Black, and its totally badass Consex :P Options

[Defgeph]

Well after one year of being parked and half a summer of work. I bring you this..........









97 ST Limited
93 3SGTE-RC swap
JDM 3SGE Tranny
3SGE axles
Spec stage 3 clutch
Fidanza light weight flywheel
Gauges, pump, and some other goodies

Brought it up to 95 MPH, running 6 to 7 pounds with 300 miles total on it since the swap.
Problems other than a restrictive exhaust.... none
All the gaskets, hoses, and belts replaced.
The car pulls straight & hard.

Just waiting now for the clutch to break in and a new full 3 inch exhaust.

Manny, Jenn, Dustin, Dave and Andrei thanks for the help. With out you guys this wouldnt have been done till 2007 haha.

Once I clean up the car some more I'll get ya some better pics of the engine. Right now I'm still in testing phase. After a nice engine detail and some wax, I'll throw up some better pics.

Thanks 6GC.net
Enjoy
DEF

[Coomer]

Mmmmm...RC 3S-GTE. Very nice work Jeff!

[Consynx]

YESSSS!!!!

edit: where are your wheels

This post has been edited by Consynx: Sep 4, 2005 - 8:41 PM

[Celicav]

Props...I'm jealous. Nice to have all that help with the project. What did you drive while she was being worked on?

[lagos]

good job jeff, glad you got it done!

why is it only boosting 6-7psi ? 13psi is where the fun starts

[Defgeph]

Thanks guys....

My tires on the rims are too thin for the car now, alot of weight up front.

I have a honda civic as a daily driver, its next to the celi in a few pics.

I'm only hitting 6 to 7 because of my exhaust. It starts at 3inch then 2 1/2 st185 mid pipe to 1 3/4 ST exhaust with my flowmaster 40 series muffler.

the exhaust will be done soon.

Thanks again guys
DEF

[Dr_Tweak]

[dustin15brown]

YESSSS!!!!

edit: where are your wheels
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Should inspire you to keep yours and swap yours..... How long did you actually work on it? All that time or only a portion? and how many problems did you run into, also what kidna overall price did you come up with?

[Defgeph]

worked on it for 2 and half months only on the weekends.
Alot of problems, I got a ton of wrong information that I had to find the right answers for. Maybe one day I'll go over it.

Price..... haha well just save up a few grand and just keep going from there.
I'm unsure of the total number. Atleast 4 grand so far

[presure2]

like i said to you over the phone man, CONGRADUF*%KINGLATIONS!
happy to hear shes up and running well, get those vac hoses fixed up, and the boost controller in and wooooooot see you soon man!

[urbandork]

niiiiiicccccce

[ILuvMyCelica95]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, when do i get to see this in person!!!!

[Defgeph]

  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, when do i get to see this in person!!!! 
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Thanks alot guys...

Get ur ass up to RI Oct 1st

DEF

[ILuvMyCelica95]

i'm working on it

[TTE]

I didn't know you gonna fix it so fast. I want to see it before meet, Jeff.
So, what actually was wrong?

[TheStreetzKing]

jeez no credit to streetz.. without my brackets would the engine be in the car???

[Defgeph]

jeez no credit to streetz.. without my brackets would the engine be in the car???
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HAHA my bad. Yes with out the bracket and mounts you sent the engine wouldnt be in.

DEF

[TheStreetzKing]

haha thanks man, the car looks freaking incredible

[Defgeph]

thank you sir

[ghostdog]

carlos lives. congrats man

[Batman722]

you are an inspiration to us all guy. I am so glad you got the clutch situation straitened out

that car is now BA

congrats guy

[doGGy]

Nice to hear that you finished her Myne is still standing still after almost a year....

Nice Job Def !

[trdevelopment]

i been watchig your progress here and celica tech and i just wanted to let you know you have one of the hottest celicas in my eyes... good luck to you and hope you enjoy it.

[droptopGT]

finally!! i haven't seen your car since the LSP meet where it was just me, you, mac, andre, and dan. can't wait to see in person

[BBoYRuGGeD]

ohhh man that is one badass celi now...woot ure gunna have fun with that badboy!!! congratz man!

bboy

[97sccelica]

hrm, no signs of an intercooler visible from the outside, small exhaust piping so its probably quiet

thats one fine sleeper you got there

[CelicaZR]

Nice Sleeper man

[dstrbcelica]

very nice. congrats.

-dstrb

[tim86]

sweet, sooo nice... just get those rs-5's back on and itll look better

[Defgeph]

Thanks alot guys

Yes, its very much a sleeper. As I'm driving I see people notice my gauges through the window. Then they start checking out the front and see nothing. The first clue they get is when I take off, and they try to keep up.
The car now feels complete, this is how they should have come from the factory.

It awesome.

[DG_Performance]

glad you are running with no issues.
i just got the mr2 done so we can race when we meet up
(took me 4 days to do mr2 swap, mr2 swappers got it easy compared to the celi swapers) no wiring at all !!! why couldnt the celi swap be that way?
so when you get your mr2 it is all down hill from there.
(easy swappin)
dg

[Consynx]

get that exhaust on, i wanna see the HKS Turbo Carbon-Ti Installed on a Celi

[95gtschick]

hot! nice job

[lagos]

well at 6-7psi its a sleeper cause the car is still asleep, lol... wait till you get your exhaust done and up the boost, then it will be like a whole new car and youll be amazed at who u can beat.

[Seth6Gen]

are you gonna throw those nasty ass wheels back on?


edit: nasty meaning sick.

and sick meaning awesome

This post has been edited by Seth6Gen: Sep 5, 2005 - 1:22 PM

[jgreening]

Congrats! Enjoy her....

[Defgeph]

Thanks guys the car now has 400 miles on it since the swap.

I highly doubt I'm gonna run 17 inch rims anymore. I'm most likely going to buy some light weight 15's, I dont like blowing out tires.

I'm going to try and get the exhaust done this month. Steve I'm might be running into you soon, I have to make a call.

I believe that I'm still in low boost mode because of cel code 54. I have to talk to the guys overseas. I need to see if there is a way to trick the ECU into believing that the I.C. water pump is still in the stock location (which its not). Thats the only code I'm throwing, so Its holding me back. Also, I might have a vacume leak some where still.

Little by little I'll get it all going.

Thank again guys
DEF

[TTE]

Just got a ride in ^^^. It's nice to see it finally runs and it runs good. See you on a battle field Jeff.

[lagos]

jeff... i think code 54 is the reason why you are getting so little boost. i believe the water level sensor in your intercooler is what causes it. all you have to do is cut the 2 wires that go to that sensor and connected them together. that will fool the ecu into thinking that your water level is always full.

[jgreening]

I highly doubt I'm gonna run 17 inch rims anymore. I'm most likely going to buy some light weight 15's, I dont like blowing out tires.

Jeff, what do you mean here? Why would running 17's cause you to blow tires?

[WannabeGT4]

Congrats!

[Defgeph]

Andrei, today was great. Congrats on being the first ride on 6GC. I still have the car with me so we have to meet up again soon.

Art, I'll look into it tonight and check everything out tomorrow.

Jay, The roads in NJ are horrible. I think I'll be happier with slightly wider, lighter 15 inch rims.

Wanna, thanks alot.


Thanks again guys
Jeff

[ILuvMyCelica95]

get sexy 16 GT-S rims

[Defgeph]

Also an option Tina, I'll have to see how everything plays out. I'm just very worried about blowing out more tires. Maybe a thicker tire on my 17's might do the trick.

[vangSTa_celica]

I don't know about anyone else, but the stock alloys in black look sexy as hell. I love your car.

Will it marry me?

[Defgeph]

ROFL..... thats funny.
Its already taken, sorry.


Thanks Vang

[vangSTa_celica]

Can I just have a ride?

[Defgeph]

If one day ur around my way, definatly.

[WannabeGT4]

How close is the hood to the intercooler? I've heard the top mounts won't fit.
Did you do all the wirirng yourself?
Let us know how your XSPower DP works out for you.

And again, Congrats on the swap and good luck finishing the write up on celicatech.

[Defgeph]

How close is the hood to the intercooler? I've heard the top mounts won't fit.
Did you do all the wirirng yourself?
Let us know how your XSPower DP works out for you.

And again, Congrats on the swap and good luck finishing the write up on celicatech.
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I'm not really sure how close it is, but its doesnt touch the hood at all. It fits without a doubt, another rumor goes out the window.
DGperformance did the wiring.
The DP is ok so far, I have over 400 miles on it.

Thanks again, I'm doing the write as I go. I should be finished soon.
DEF

[ILuvMyCelica95]

Also an option Tina, I'll have to see how everything plays out. I'm just very worried about blowing out more tires. Maybe a thicker tire on my 17's might do the trick.
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yeah i like your rims, i hope a thicker tire works, if not of course i am partial to mine

How close is the hood to the intercooler? I've heard the top mounts won't fit.
Did you do all the wirirng yourself?
Let us know how your XSPower DP works out for you.

And again, Congrats on the swap and good luck finishing the write up on celicatech.
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I'm not really sure how close it is, but its doesnt touch the hood at all. It fits without a doubt, another rumor goes out the window.
DGperformance did the wiring.
The DP is ok so far, I have over 400 miles on it.

Thanks again, I'm doing the write as I go. I should be finished soon.
DEF
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yeah i cant wait till the write up is all done

[Consynx]

get thicker sidewalls w/ the 5zigens in a 17X8 or better yet 17X9

(they come in bronze too)

[lagos]

just go with something like a 215-45-17 tire and youll be just fine. the problem is a lot of us are rocking thos 205-40s that are way too small for 17s

[macavely]

Congrats kid.... damn now your car is faster then mine..... lol...... swing by my job when you can.. i wants to see the celi ...

[Jdog1385]

nice...good work bro. its meet time!!

[Batman722]

nice...good work bro.  its meet time!!
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RI meet Oct 1

[BBoYRuGGeD]

just go with something like a 215-45-17 tire and youll be just fine. the problem is a lot of us are rocking thos 205-40s that are way too small for 17s
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i agree... i've been on 215/45/17s for almost a year and a half now and i've never had any problems with my rims...

bboy

[presure2]

3rd

i agree... i've been on 215/45/17s for almost a year and a half now and i've never had any problems with my rims... 

[Drocay]

235/45/17 it fits and its great.

[Defgeph]

In the future I might upgrade the wheels again. Right now I like how my set up is now. Maybe I'll borrow a set of 17's with thicker tires to see how I like it.

on another note.......
I found out that I need to wire in my intercooler ECU. Yeah crazy right, I had no clue the intercooler has its own ECU. After I do that I need to jumps some wires going to it, this should get rid of my code 54.

Then skys the limit. Oh I brought my car to toyota to show my parts guy.... all the mechanics there where looking over my car then scratching their heads as they look at the engine. Its was great.

Once I get all the toys hooked up, I'll plaster this site with videos of it in action
Thanks guys
DEF

[Consynx]

intercooler ecu...seems fancy

[Hanyo]

wow, that is so sexy. YOU EVEN KEPT THE STOCK TURBO AIRBOX!!
that is an ultimate sleeper, when a cop ask you to open your hood you can claim its completely stock. haha

How does the engine sound? how is the 3sge tranny working? lsd? what was the issue with the mounts?

[lagos]

might want to ask supersprynt how to wire up the intercooler pump... cause he just got his water to air not to long ago.

i always thought it was just an electric pump that runs off the cars main ecu or can be hardwired on.

[Defgeph]

wow, that is so sexy. YOU EVEN KEPT THE STOCK TURBO AIRBOX!!
that is an ultimate sleeper, when a cop ask you to open your hood you can claim its completely stock. haha

How does the engine sound? how is the 3sge tranny working? lsd? what was the issue with the mounts?
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Engine sounds great, I love it so freaking awesome. I have a nonLSD 3sge tranny its very beefy so i doubt I'll have any trouble with it. I was told that st205 mounts would work with my swap but they didnt, so I had to track down GT mounts

might want to ask supersprynt how to wire up the intercooler pump... cause he just got his water to air not to long ago.

i always thought it was just an electric pump that runs off the cars main ecu or can be hardwired on.
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In his case he put a W/A on a regular st185. I have an RC edition engine, its a totally different engine. He's not getting a code 54 because his engine never had a stock W/A setup.

In my case, I have a ST185RC that came stock with the set up. I have to wire up the intercooler ECU. It controls every function of the pump and sensor. Once I wire it up, I just have to jump some wires that go to the plug for the ECU then I can trash the IC-ECU.

I'm going to do this over the weekend hopefully I can finish.

Thanks alot guys
DEF

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Jeff man....awesome to see that its all done! That thing has been transformed into the best sleeper Celica I've seen. I'll have to hit you up one day and we can meet or something....I gotta see it in person!!

[Defgeph]

Jeff man....awesome to see that its all done!  That thing has been transformed into the best sleeper Celica I've seen.  I'll have to hit you up one day and we can meet or something....I gotta see it in person!!
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I'm not to far away, let me know when you want a ride.

DEF

[celi_gt_racer]

"Plaster the site w/ vids of the car in action" .. i dont know about you guys.. but that sounded sexi to me... lmfao. Can't wait to see some vids! And btw - are you going to do some sort of hood scoop to allow some extra air into that TMIC? It would probly be hellaquick then.

[Defgeph]

"Plaster the site w/ vids of the car in action" .. i dont know about you guys.. but that sounded sexi to me... lmfao. Can't wait to see some vids! And btw - are you going to do some sort of hood scoop to allow some extra air into that TMIC? It would probly be hellaquick then.
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I'm planning a full GT4 conversion. Until then there is a very small chance I could add a hole or two on the hood.

Once I get the bugs worked out I'll start making videos. should be next week some time.

Thanks
DEF

[Consynx]

Jeff, about heatsoak...
just raise the back of the hood 1-3"...keep it sleek

[Defgeph]

Jeff, about heatsoak...
just raise the back of the hood 1-3"...keep it sleek
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I was also thinking about this Steve. We'll see how everything goes.

[Illyont]

Car looks sick!! (in a good way though)..

Would you trade my 35 000$ Audi for it?

[WannabeGT4]

Defgeph, what is the part number for your ECU? I have what I think is a 93WRC ECU but I just wanted to double check. Thanks.

[Defgeph]

I'll get it for you later tonight I have to go to work now.


DEF

[lagos]

"Plaster the site w/ vids of the car in action" .. i dont know about you guys.. but that sounded sexi to me... lmfao. Can't wait to see some vids! And btw - are you going to do some sort of hood scoop to allow some extra air into that TMIC? It would probly be hellaquick then.
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it dosnt need any hood scoop, because the intercooler he has is water to air and not air to air like the normal alltrac ones. on the gt4 hood, the vent is only there to vent out hot turbo/manifold heat form the enigne bay, but it dosnt scoop any air over the IC.

[celi_gt_racer]

wow... ok... cool... my bad. Lol - I thought that even water - air IC's needed some air flow over them to keep the water from becoming heatsoaked..... my bad. Thanks for the correction lagos

[lagos]

wow... ok... cool... my bad. Lol - I thought that even water - air IC's needed some air flow over them to keep the water from becoming heatsoaked..... my bad. Thanks for the correction lagos 
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you are right, they do. they have coolant lines that go from the IC to a water pump to a radiator type of thing that you mount in the front of the car.

[jgreening]

a radiator type of thing that you mount in the front of the car.
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Better known as a heat exchanger.

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

I've always thought it would be really cool to use the factory fog lamp position on the 96+ bumper to make like CF air scoops or something....That would be a stealthy cooling addition to the car possibly in conjunction with the hood trick that Steve mentioned.

[Defgeph]

I can tell you guys, its very hot under that hood. I might be adjusting the hood this weekend to bring the temps down a bit.

I know that IC is working over time under there. A vented hood would definately help in my cooling effect.

I'm liking the idea there Corey, I might just something like that.

DEF

[Consynx]

heat exchanger....god i hate thermo


$3 hood mod!!1 w00t
let us know how it work!

[Defgeph]

Defgeph, what is the part number for your ECU? I have what I think is a 93WRC ECU but I just wanted to double check. Thanks.
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ECU


Intercooler ECU




I'm happy to say I'm out of limp mode now. The car is great, I still need to get that exhaust done and hook up my boost controller.


Thanks guys
DEF

[WannabeGT4]

Yup. That's what I've got. Thanks.

How'd you wire up the ECU so that you don't get that code?

This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Sep 11, 2005 - 2:09 PM

[Defgeph]

if you are looking at the ECU pins this is the plug on the right

Send WIN Pin out to ground

[WannabeGT4]

What about INT on the 26pin.

[Defgeph]

I didnt touch that wire, in my harness the color is not the same as whats on that pinout.

That ECU Diagram is different from mine. That one for the CS, I have the RC.

I might mess around with it more, but for now I'm out of low boost.
And I'm loving it.

DEF

[WannabeGT4]

Sounds good. Thanks.

Yeah, WIN is actually ABS on my ECU and INT is EVP. I have no idea what they stand for though.

[Defgeph]

I would suggest following a ST205 pinout if you have one.

[lagos]

so, how much boost are u getting now?

[Defgeph]

wanna do me a favor, can you post a pic of the ST205 pinouts for the plug on the left.

The colors and what they are for if you have it.

Thanks
DEF

[Defgeph]

so, how much boost are u getting now?
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8 pounds, Its EBC time. And a less restrictive exhaust.

[WannabeGT4]

They are similar but not exactly the same. It seems that they integrated the Intercooler ECU into the main ECU.
ST205:


This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Sep 11, 2005 - 9:02 PM

[WannabeGT4]

so, how much boost are u getting now?
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8 pounds, Its EBC time. And a less restrictive exhaust.
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Don't the RC ECUs have boost cut at 17 PSI? Sounds like there is plenty of room to grow once you get that MBC.

[WannabeGT4]

This might come in handy as well:

[Defgeph]

so, how much boost are u getting now?
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8 pounds, Its EBC time. And a less restrictive exhaust.
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Don't the RC ECUs have boost cut at 17 PSI? Sounds like there is plenty of room to grow once you get that MBC.
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I have a greddy profec B Spec II EBC. I think both the fuel and boost cut at 17PSI

[Defgeph]

I also think I need to ground one more wire, because of the IC level sensor. I still need to look into it. but I beleive the wires for it are just sitting in my harness somewhere un connected.

[WannabeGT4]

so, how much boost are u getting now?
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8 pounds, Its EBC time. And a less restrictive exhaust.
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Don't the RC ECUs have boost cut at 17 PSI? Sounds like there is plenty of room to grow once you get that MBC.
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I have a greddy profec B Spec II EBC. I think both the fuel and boost cut at 17PSI
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I'm blind... LOL. just goes to show I can't multi task.

[Defgeph]

lol its cool, I have the EBC. I still need to wire it up.

I might take a shot at it this week.

DEF

[lagos]

even tho your fuel cut is at 17psi ...dont run anymore then 15psi on the stock tubo.

[Defgeph]

No worries, I doubt I'll even need to take it to 15lbs.


DEF

[lagos]

No worries, I doubt I'll even need to take it to 15lbs.


DEF
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trust me, its like a drug. once you get a taste, youll want more and more and more.