UK spec OEM fog light switch/button, Installed on USDM (LHS) Pics! Options

[UTSlickVic]

(see end of Page 1 for update)

ok I'm tired of looking for info about it. But, I did find one person confirming toyota did install it on the left air vent area of the driver side. Just to ask again, Is the OEM fog light switch/button location on the left air vent area of the driver side left air vent? My car alarm light is located in that indented circle where I think the button/switch is at... I think.... if exists. Is it a button? Was it offered on US celicas? Man I dont think I am making sense... sleepy time.

ohhh dang it, if someone has I a pic that will just shut me up.

This post has been edited by UTSlickVic: Jun 27, 2006 - 7:27 PM

[Batman722]

it is a rear fog button. USDM cars do not have them, only the overseas cars do.

pics

[UTSlickVic]

I C. Thanks Batman.

[trdproven]

yupp, the usdm cars do have the shape for you to cut it out and put a switch there. What I did was just get an OEM fog switch for toyota and popped out the vertical rectangular panel on the left side of the steering wheel.

[UTSlickVic]

yupp, the usdm cars do have the shape for you to cut it out and put a switch there. What I did was just get an OEM fog switch for toyota and popped out the vertical rectangular panel on the left side of the steering wheel.

yeah thats what I did as well. But when I heard that this OEM button existed (at least for over sea celicas) I got exicted and thought toyota SHOULD have made one for the USDM. However, I was unaware that it operated the rear fogs for UK celicas. Which makes sense because my friend from the UK was telling me when he exports his 05 Mustang to the UK, he will have to install rear fogs. THey have real dense fog and often, so they have more need for that. I thought it operated the front fogs.

[RocketScott]

Does anyone have the part number for that or even know if we can get it over here?

[snapshotgt]

BUMP ---> Can someone help me find this part? Please post if you know anything!

~snap

This post has been edited by snapshotgt: May 27, 2006 - 11:23 PM

[Batman722]

Does anyone have the part number for that or even know if we can get it over here?

part #

94-96 --> 84165-20040
96-99 --> 84165-20060

these are for LHD, the RHD switch is a different (fits in the RHD vent the opposite from LHD)

I do not know why they were different for the early years, I would assume they are basicly the same and will do the same job.

Snap, if you really want one, just get it from a Toyota dealership or try looking on ebay.uk

also, the 96+ Celicas have the fog light switch on the directional (blinker) stalk along with the parking & headlight switch. You could just get one of those (part # 84140-20560)

[snapshotgt]

Does anyone have the part number for that or even know if we can get it over here?

part #

94-96 --> 84165-20040
96-99 --> 84165-20060

these are for LHD, the RHD switch is a different (fits in the RHD vent the opposite from LHD)

I do not know why they were different for the early years, I would assume they are basicly the same and will do the same job.

Snap, if you really want one, just get it from a Toyota dealership or try looking on ebay.uk

also, the 96+ Celicas have the fog light switch on the directional (blinker) stalk along with the parking & headlight switch. You could just get one of those (part # 84140-20560)

Awesome, just what i was wantin' thanks a bunch!

~snap

[brianforster]

usdm oem fog lights were controlled by the turn signal arm, werent they?

[Batman722]

also, the 96+ Celicas have the fog light switch on the directional (blinker) stalk along with the parking & headlight switch. You could just get one of those (part # 84140-20560)

usdm oem fog lights were controlled by the turn signal arm, werent they?

^^

[UTSlickVic]

Hi everyone. Yes, I finally got around to installing my OEM fog light switch (or button should
I say) that I bought from the UK. As everyone knows they usually use this particular button for
their rear fog light. Yes, over ther they require cars to have rear fog light just because it
foggy 90% of the time over there.

Anywho, It was A LOT easier install than I thought it would be. The wiring was a bit tricky, just because
the wire colors did not follow any U.S. coloring logic... so I just connected different wires until
the button worked. I had the drilling hole part planned/down but I was worried on how I was going
to mount it behind the vent section. The RHS drive setion that it came with had the built-in platic
tab/brackets... I thiught surely Toyota would not have those plastc brackets on my LHS drive vent...
WELL IT DID!!!!!!!!! I was sooooo happy/relieved/exicted when I saw that. Like I always have said,
Toyota thinks of everything. Pretty much "plug and play" after the hole was cut.

I was very pleased with the results. It gives the interior something extra and a cleaner stock look that
I always strive for. One thing I did not like was that the white vent "flow on/off" symbols are alittle worn
I will repaint those next. I may go all out and reproduce a stensel to repaint...

See before and after pics below... Enjoy.

PS: I also included pics of my long-since installed 1999 OEM leather seats. PEACE.











Can not really make out the rear leather seats in this pic.

[Batman722]

the is badass. Now just tell us what wires do what

[m0dd3d1]

usdm oem fog lights were controlled by the turn signal arm, werent they?

i second that! that's what mine does...does the st not have that option or something? or are you guys just installing two switches for the fogs to fill in empty space?

[UTSlickVic]

the is badass. Now just tell us what wires do what

Well this is how I have it so far. And nothin has caught on fire... and my lights dont flicker with this combo
I had three wires on my aftermarket harness: Black, Red, White.

This is the combo.
Black - green
Red - red/orange
White - red/green
illumination(splise in to any existing illumination wire you choose: raio, parking lights, etc) - white/green

usdm oem fog lights were controlled by the turn signal arm, werent they?

i second that! that's what mine does...does the st not have that option or something? or are you guys just installing two switches for the fogs to fill in empty space?

No, I think the 94 did not have the option for foglights... hence ther was no switch/anywhere (correct me if I'm wrong anyone). So before I had to install/cut a hole for a after market switch once I got a hold of some fogs. THis hole was located below the steering wheel LHS, near the fuse panel... in the "neighborhood" of the hood latch. You will see like a little rectangular panel, where something should go.

So, no, I do/did not have two switches.

I think 96 on that turn signal arm switch feature was added. (Again, correct me if I'm wrong anyone).

[azian_advanced]

u really are slick.. good stuff! i'll need this in the later future, thanks!

[malpaso]

Yes those differences between USDM and EDM (European Domestic Market ) versions are confusing... I can remember how I was shocked USDM celicas don't have rear fog light (normal for me) .



Picture from my topic here .


However: there is one more thing to think about . EDM celicas has "rear-foglight-indicator" on dashboard (when button is activated, indicator light on) located here:




it's this bulb:




Do you have that in USDM celicas also? Will that indicator be operating also for you?

This post has been edited by malpaso: Jun 28, 2006 - 12:47 PM

[Negative]

This is sweet - I was going to get another hazard light switch and use it to wire push button start. Now all I have to do is figure out some way to get one of these, remove the paint showing the light and then the fun part begins - wiring that up. UTSlickVic - where did you get your switch and how much $?

[UTSlickVic]

WOW! great post malpaso! I was wondering where those rear fogs would be located. I'm not sure if USDM has the rear fog indicator. I have never taken apart my guage cluster. I'm sure someone will post a response to your inquiry. I would sure like to know This keeps getting better and better. I could look in my chilton's manuel to see if it has anything.

If it does, I will diffinatly attempt to get it to work...

Again, great pics/post.

[DSRT-FX]

thats great information i had no idea they're was so much to it.. i wouldnt mind having them lol australian celica's dont have them. but they're no good for the jdm tails hehehe i like the blue light switch though!!

[UTSlickVic]

This is sweet - I was going to get another hazard light switch and use it to wire push button start. Now all I have to do is figure out some way to get one of these, remove the paint showing the light and then the fun part begins - wiring that up. UTSlickVic - where did you get your switch and how much $?

ebay. I just ran into it out of the blue. I was lucky. I think I ended up paying $80 shipped form UK. It was kinda pricey but worth it in the end IMO. I thought it was a rare part so I went for it.

[UTSlickVic]

it's this bulb:




Do you have that in USDM celicas also? Will that indicator be operating also for you?

Ok,

I tried really hard to see if I could get a glimps of that fog light "on" indicator on the front gauge cluster... I used a flash light and used sun light and from what I can see, I can not make out of there is actual indicator on the cluster. In the sun you can see the oil indicator, e-brake, etc. I guess what Im doing is tip-toeing around the real answer. I need to look behind it to know for sure.

Does anyone know our have pics of the back of their guage cluster, much like malpaso's pic on page 2? a USDM gauge cluster . We just need confirmation weather or not the USDM cluster has a fog light indicator. My gut says it should.

Thanks.

[malpaso]

Some new useful informations for interested in rear foglight wiring from European model repair manual

switch info:


complete circuit:


gauges wiring with rear foglight indicator:


This post has been edited by malpaso: Jul 19, 2006 - 12:26 AM

[snapshotgt]

Firstly, i need to say wOOOOOOOOOOOOOt! I FINALLY found one!

EDIT: Maybe not...the other guy might be backing out!!!!

Anyway, to continue the discussion on the fog "indicator" in the cluster, here is a picture of my USDM cluster.
You'll notice it looks like we might...



~snap

This post has been edited by snapshotgt: Aug 29, 2006 - 1:57 PM

[malpaso]

Firstly, i need to say wOOOOOOOOOOOOOt! I FINALLY found one!

Anyway, to continue the discussion on the fog "indicator" in the cluster, here is a picture of my USDM cluster.
You'll notice it looks like we might...
...
~snap

you need just socket and bulb

[WALKER]

Thanks for all the advice, I will be trying to install mine in the next little while. Let me know how it goes with getting a light in the cluster. Will it simply take putting a bulb in there and the wiring circuit should exist? What size bulb is that in the cluster?

By the way I found my switch by signing up at Celica Club UK and then simply placing a WTB thread on their forum. I ended up getting a reply right away and got it for $25CAD shipped to me.

[malpaso]

Thanks for all the advice, I will be trying to install mine in the next little while. Let me know how it goes with getting a light in the cluster. Will it simply take putting a bulb in there and the wiring circuit should exist? What size bulb is that in the cluster?

By the way I found my switch by signing up at Celica Club UK and then simply placing a WTB thread on their forum. I ended up getting a reply right away and got it for $25CAD shipped to me.

# it's same socket and bulb like others in the cluster (you in US for sure have different mark for that bulb than europe (example: 194 = W5W) so... ??? = W3W? It's just smaller 3W "all-glass" bulb and socket:


# Lucky you! That damn button costs about $85 (brand new from Toyota). part no.: 84165-20040

This post has been edited by malpaso: Aug 30, 2006 - 1:01 AM

[WALKER]

Do we have a part number for those sockets from Toyota? I would like to buy a few of them.

As for the price, I think I did luck out. It doesn't seem that anybody else can get it for that cheap, even from the same seller on that UK Celica Club.

This post has been edited by WALKER: Aug 30, 2006 - 11:34 AM

[hitcachi]

malpaso, you are a parts GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDD!!! Seriously. Between you and Batman, you're just walking encyclopedias!

This post has been edited by hitcachi: Aug 30, 2006 - 11:46 AM

[malpaso]

malpaso, you are a parts GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDD!!! Seriously. Between you and Batman, you're just walking encyclopedias!

thanks... we are not alone (where are you Gerald!!!! ). I have some number here . It's 83101-24010.

[WALKER]

I have some number here . It's 83101-24010.

Thanks for the part number. While your at it, what is the part number for the larger socket?

[malpaso]

Thanks for the part number. While your at it, what is the part number for the larger socket?

83101-14030
that one is for sure... (that first one for smaller one is not confirmed, this one is...)

This post has been edited by malpaso: Aug 30, 2006 - 12:14 PM

[WALKER]

Thanks for the part number. While your at it, what is the part number for the larger socket?

83101-14030
that one is for sure... (that first one for smaller one is not confirmed, this one is...)

Hey thanks again. The first part number does come up on ToyotaWorld so I would think it is good.

Item Number MSRP Core Price Price
8310124010 $1.71 $0.00 $1.28

SOCKET S A, METER BU

8310114030 $2.74 $0.00 $2.06

SOCKET SUB-ASSY, MET

[WALKER]

it's same socket and bulb like others in the cluster (you in US for sure have different mark for that bulb than europe (example: 194 = W5W) so... ??? = W3W? It's just smaller 3W "all-glass" bulb and socket:

I believe that a W3W is a 74.

Twist-Lock type instrument LED bulbs consist of a T 1 1/2 (#73/74) miniature LED bulb installed in a twist-lock socket base.

This post has been edited by WALKER: Aug 30, 2006 - 12:37 PM

[snapshotgt]

USDM celica question....

Do our celica's already come with a plug back there for the button? So, basicaly, once i have a button (the back has a male plug with metal clips coming out of it. No wires though.) -- we plug it into an already wired in connector, or do you need to solder, and do all the wiring?

-snap

[snapshotgt]

USDM celica question....

Do our celica's already come with a plug back there for the button? So, basicaly, once i have a button (the back has a male plug with metal clips coming out of it. No wires though.) -- we plug it into an already wired in connector, or do you need to solder, and do all the wiring?

-snap

Any thoughts?

[WALKER]

No unfortunately we have no harness or plug. All I have now is the switch and the back looks like this.



So basically I am now in search of a harness plug that will go into it. Maybe we can hunt down a part number for this harness and get it from Toyota, if not I guess back over to the fun on the UK Website (inside joke between snapshotgt and me!).

I sent malpaso a PM and hopefully he can come up with a part number for us.

This post has been edited by WALKER: Aug 31, 2006 - 10:03 AM

[malpaso]

No unfortunately we have no harness or plug. All I have now is the switch and the back looks like this.
...
I sent malpaso a PM and hopefully he can come up with a part number for us.

Bad news folks... those harness numbers are wery hard to find. I had huge problem find hardnesses for parking lights (or part numbers) .

[Batman722]

guys the plug for the back of that is part of the main interior wire harness, which runs throughout the inside of your dashboard. The plug cannot be purchased on it's own from toyota, you would have to get the entire harness which is huge $$.

[WALKER]

guys the plug for the back of that is part of the main interior wire harness, which runs throughout the inside of your dashboard. The plug cannot be purchased on it's own from toyota, you would have to get the entire harness which is huge $$.

Thanks for the information, guess its time to be creative!

[Batman722]

guys the plug for the back of that is part of the main interior wire harness, which runs throughout the inside of your dashboard. The plug cannot be purchased on it's own from toyota, you would have to get the entire harness which is huge $$.

Thanks for the information, guess its time to be creative!

but I could be wrong. I think Martin (malpaso) is looking into this as we speak. I know I have tried before for another harness and I was given a big no by the toyota dealership. Let's see what he comes up with, good luck Martin

[malpaso]

but I could be wrong. I think Martin (malpaso) is looking into this as we speak. I know I have tried before for another harness and I was given a big no by the toyota dealership. Let's see what he comes up with, good luck Martin

yes and no... Dustin is right about "big no". For common customer is impossible get any connector harness... but technicly it is possible. Every "genuine" Toyota car service must have special catalog of any plug or harness in Toyota (of course with part numbers). I have seen once this catalog and tried look for some JDM connectors for projectors... there are no model cars, just drawings with connectors and numbers with short specification. If you find anything what looks usefull, you have no chance for checking you have exactly what you want... result is just some part number.Then you must find out in which car is that part used and check if it's right thing...If it is, time for ordering , if its not...new searching in that catalog...so nothing easy and of course someone must let you search in that catalog . I belive much easier is improvise or find it from junk yard...

p.s.: just for your info. One connector bought that way costs about $30-40... just stupid wire harness...

[UTSlickVic]

but I could be wrong. I think Martin (malpaso) is looking into this as we speak. I know I have tried before for another harness and I was given a big no by the toyota dealership. Let's see what he comes up with, good luck Martin

yes and no... Dustin is right about "big no". For common customer is impossible get any connector harness... but technicly it is possible. Every "genuine" Toyota car service must have special catalog of any plug or harness in Toyota (of course with part numbers). I have seen once this catalog and tried look for some JDM connectors for projectors... there are no model cars, just drawings with connectors and numbers with short specification. If you find anything what looks usefull, you have no chance for checking you have exactly what you want... result is just some part number.Then you must find out in which car is that part used and check if it's right thing...If it is, time for ordering , if its not...new searching in that catalog...so nothing easy and of course someone must let you search in that catalog . I belive much easier is improvise or find it from junk yard...

p.s.: just for your info. One connector bought that way costs about $30-40... just stupid wire harness...

Sorry guyz I was in South Padre on vacation. I am now up to speed. Thanks guys for the PMs and sorry for the delay.

I would have to agree with batman/malpaso on the "harness" section we want added. Pointless to go to Toyota for this, as they said, since its a part of the entire harness they would only sell the entire harness (if they have it mind you). And we all know how freaking expensive harnesses are.

Snap, I will eventually answer ur PMs

WALKER:
The harness I have in the back of my UKDM plug came with my purchase (see below). So I guess, one of the 4 wires can be wired to the newly found fog light indicator plug (BTW great job in finding that!). Much like how I "rigged" my accent lights on the Projector headlights. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyways for yall who dont have this illusive button harness: If you look at the hazard light button/harness, it should be VERY similiar to the UKDM fog light button/harness. I'm thinking the hazard light harnesses may plug into the back of the fog light button. This would be everyones best bet. Does this make sense? I'm I off base? I know that the UKDM fog light button and the hazard light button are really similiar... so .... shouldnt the harness sections be also?



EDIT: I'm in Austin right now and I dont have my car so... I cant see if what I just recommended is true.

This post has been edited by UTSlickVic: Sep 5, 2006 - 9:15 PM

[WALKER]

Just to update you guys on this. One of the harnesses from the climate control panel fits perfectly into the UK fog light switch. The only problem I see is that the points are not the same, for the UK fog light swtich you need 1,3,4,6 I believe (says above in the diagram), however the harness from the climate control has wires coming out of other spots, not sure exactly which ones.

I believe that the wires can easily be moved to the 1,3,4,6 spots since it is just a harness and then it will work perfectly. I will keep you guys informed on how this works out for me.

[snapshotgt]

When i bought mine, i made sure they gave me the button, plug and some harness ...what can i say...i just made sure they did this!

This post has been edited by snapshotgt: Oct 12, 2006 - 12:25 AM

[Daftboy]

Just to update you guys on this. One of the harnesses from the climate control panel fits perfectly into the UK fog light switch. The only problem I see is that the points are not the same, for the UK fog light swtich you need 1,3,4,6 I believe (says above in the diagram), however the harness from the climate control has wires coming out of other spots, not sure exactly which ones.

I believe that the wires can easily be moved to the 1,3,4,6 spots since it is just a harness and then it will work perfectly. I will keep you guys informed on how this works out for me.

Did this ever work?

[UTSlickVic]

wow forgot about this thread....

but I still havnt forgot about the cluster indicator light, everytime I forget to turn my fogs off I vow to get the indicator light working... then I forget to do it. Its a vicious cycle.

[WALKER]

To tell you the truth, this is yet another project that I haven't got to on my celica. Hard to believe it was so long ago. I will try and get around to it in the next couple months, now that the weather has finally warmed up.

[Batman722]

haha amatuers..



ba-zing

I'll post up more pics and details probably this week.

[WALKER]

Nice work Dustin!

[stevest202]

ive listed one of these switchs in forsale section if anybody wants to do this mod

[Batman722]

Ba-Zing

I already have a normal fog light switch so I did something unexpected with the rear fog switch, I wired in a rear fog.



and



and my fog switch



more pics in a day or 2.

[tomazws]

OMG this is one of the most awesome posts regarding fog lamps! How can I missed this for 2 years?!?!?!?

I can't wait for your post, batman!

[njccmd2002]

that fog light indicator is for the fron or the rears. I dont have the bulb., but i do have oem fogs. should i just put a bulb there see what happnes..

[Batman722]

that fog light indicator is for the fron or the rears. I dont have the bulb., but i do have oem fogs. should i just put a bulb there see what happnes..

the indicator is for the rears. To have a rear fog it's nessessary to make it legal. If you put a bulb in yours nothing would happen.

another pic of the switch

[turbochloe]

Some new useful informations for interested in rear foglight wiring from European model repair manual

switch info:


]

what pins get what .. 12v sorce.. ground ect....

[Slick]

OH! Ok, i see now. This whole time i thought you were talking about the front fog lights. Here i was thinking what the big deal was about the switch since mine is located on the same lever as the headlight controls.

Rear fog lights. Hmm. I'll have to think about it if i need it.

[Batman722]

Some new useful informations for interested in rear foglight wiring from European model repair manual

switch info:


]

what pins get what .. 12v sorce.. ground ect....

there are 4 pins on my rear fog switch



OEM wire colors and what they are for.

[RickJamesBish]

Yeah, I have a switch there, from fogs that the previous owner installed.

[shaguar84]

Hey guys,

I'm pretty new to this forum, but this article is awesome!

Have question though, does anyone know the Part Number for the Fog Switch on the RHS?

[stevest202]

Hey guys,

I'm pretty new to this forum, but this article is awesome!

Have question though, does anyone know the Part Number for the Fog Switch on the RHS?

this one ive got says 157699

[shaguar84]

Hey guys,

I'm pretty new to this forum, but this article is awesome!

Have question though, does anyone know the Part Number for the Fog Switch on the RHS?

this one ive got says 157699

Hey thanks for the reply, i checked up w/ the Toyota ppl they said thats not a part number or possibly there could be missing digits. Does anyone know?

[stevest202]

Hey guys,

I'm pretty new to this forum, but this article is awesome!

Have question though, does anyone know the Part Number for the Fog Switch on the RHS?

this one ive got says 157699

Hey thanks for the reply, i checked up w/ the Toyota ppl they said thats not a part number or possibly there could be missing digits. Does anyone know?

the only other number written on this one is[699-oy43]

[WALKER]

Part numbers for the fog light switches I have listed in my records are:
84165-20040 for 94-96 and
84165-20060 for 96-99

[RickJamesBish]

The previous owner installed fogs, my switch is in that circle.

[shaguar84]

Part numbers for the fog light switches I have listed in my records are:
84165-20040 for 94-96 and
84165-20060 for 96-99

Thanks for that, are these part numbers for RHD or LHD? My car is RHD btw, but if its interchangeable then should be sweet

[bojangles_8686]

This thread inspired me to hook up my jdm fogs, so I bought a rear fog button to use for the front fogs. This is what I got..





The guys on the celica club uk forums (nix in particular) said it looks like a button for 96+ rear fogs. A bit different from the 4 pin buttons you guys have. You can see in the last pic I separated the colors that look similar to what someone posted earlier in this thread. I tried hooking them up and got nothing. Any ideas? Can you diagram gurus find one with an 8 pin button instead of a 4 pin? Thanks.

[RocketScott]

Wow

I've been thinking about this for a while and did a search to find it. I haven't been able to track down a source for the part numbers that have been listed: 84165-20040 and 84165-20060. There also isn't much of an explaination as to why there are two different part numbers. Maybe the first number was for the 6 pin that only controls the rear fogs and the later was for the 8 pin that added another feature? the wiring diagram earlier in this post was for the 6 pin.

I'm not coming up with much when searching UK part numbers.

[GriffGirl]

Go HERE and you will find the answers you seek, grasshopper. I had the same question like 5 days ago.

Wait, never mind. I see what you're saying now. Ugh. This puts me in the same boat.

How did you connect them? My thinking would be that
1= don't worry about it
2= Illumination (+)
3= Relay
4= Ignition (although common sense tells me the red only wire would be ignition, or battery)
5= Ground
6= Illumination (-) ?

I'm guessing the pins that we don't need to use were intended to somehow operate the fog light illumination on the instrument panel.

This post has been edited by GriffGirl: Sep 16, 2009 - 1:29 PM

[RocketScott]

All you need to do is sit down with a multimeter and figure out which circuits get connected when the switch is closed. Besides that figure out which pins are for illumination.

From the diagrams it looks like you had to have the headlights and the rear fog lights on in order to turn on the front fog lights. There may be a circuit in the rear fog light switch that the front fog lights run through. You could also pull it open and see whats inside.

[Wintersun]

Hi guys, Im trying to install UKDM fog switch into my JDM GT4. It already has the rear lights converted in have fogs in them as in the UK you must have them by law.

The previous owner must of done this as there is a switch to turn them on and off in the air vent, but its only a aftermarket rocker switch, I would like to replace the switch with my new toyota Celica OEM fog switch.

How do I wire it in as the wire harness behind the vent has 3 wires with connectors and my new OEM switch has 8 wires.

What wires do I need to use in my new switch to make the fogs turn on.

Cheers

Matt

[Batman722]

does the back of the OEM switch look like this ?



or this ?

[Wintersun]

Same as the top picture. Has 8 pins with a white connector with 8 different coloured wires.

I have 3 wires already fitted to a fog light relay from the previous owner, I just want to replace the aftermarket 3 pin rocker switch with the OEM 8 pin switch, but I have no idea what wires from the 8, to connect to the 3 that are already behind the air vent.

Matt

[Wintersun]

Ok I have found out a bit more info on the UK 8 pin fog light switch.

Each pin connected to the PCB has the following printed next to the solder where the pins join the circuit board.

1 - L
2 - Illumination (+)
3 - B
4 - HR
5 - LH
6 - FS
7 - E
8 - Illumination (-)

I have no idea what 1,3,4,5,6,7 mean tho.



This post has been edited by Wintersun: Oct 19, 2009 - 4:47 AM

[bojangles_8686]

Good Idea, I never thought about taking mine apart. I'll have to take out the multimeter when I get home and do some more testing. Ill post up any results.

Well, the illumination is right (2+ and 8-). I hooked them up to a 9V battery and the led lit right up. When I find my multimeter Ill do some more testing. Can someone with the 6 pin do what Wintersun did and take theirs apart and post what letters are for what pins? Maybe if we find some common letters we can get a little closer to figuring this out.

This post has been edited by bojangles_8686: Nov 9, 2009 - 7:04 PM

[ST-Autosport]

i'm also trying to install the 8 pin switch into my GT-4 right now and also figured out the names of the pins, like listed above.

i also have a wiring diagram which tells us what these do...

i'll try to upload it in a few days,

basically with the 8pin switch it is possible to run in when 2 conditions are fullfilled:
- headlights on
- front fogs on

the 8 pin switch gets an input form the front fog relay and all the rest comes from the headlight sw and illumination.

.... i think lolz

[malpaso]

...

basically with the 8pin switch it is possible to run in when 2 conditions are fullfilled:
- headlights on
- front fogs on

...

That is not exactly correct... I have not had fogs from stock on my old ST but this button was functioning. So just headlights on is enough IMO.

[ST-Autosport]

Ok I have found out a bit more info on the UK 8 pin fog light switch.

Each pin connected to the PCB has the following printed next to the solder where the pins join the circuit board.

1 - L
2 - Illumination (+)
3 - B
4 - HR
5 - LH
6 - FS
7 - E
8 - Illumination (-)

I have no idea what 1,3,4,5,6,7 mean tho.

1 - L = to rear fog indicator light on dash, color = R
2 - ill + = tap into any ill source on dash
3 - B = from fuse ECU-B (so +), color = G-R
4 - HR = from HEAD relay (A2 side of the relay/coil) so that fog only operates when lights are ON, color = R-Y
5 - LH = to light control switch/ daytime running light relay pin "H" (sits on top of integration relay), color = R-B
6 - FS = from front fog light relay (A2 side of the relay/coil) , so if you don't have front fogs or relay -> earth to chassis ground, color = G-B
7 - E = other side of the dash indicator light, goes to junction block Nr 3, pin 3A, color = W-B
8 - ill - = earth to chassis ground or ill - anywhere in dash

[bojangles_8686]

Nice find ST-Autosport. Say I want to use this button on my front fog lights and I wire it up like this....



Would it be possible to simply connect one of the wires to a +12V source and another wire to the 85 pin on the relay?

[ST-Autosport]

in that case i think you need to do this:

1 - L = leave open
2 - ill + = switched 12V +
3 - B = switched 12 +
4 - HR = ground
5 - LH = leave open
6 - FS = ground
7 - E = leave open
8 - ill - = ground

thats 2 wires, + and -

+ to pins ill + and B
- to pins HR, FS and ill-

[bojangles_8686]

Thanks. Ill give it a try this weekend and let you know what happens.

[bojangles_8686]

in that case i think you need to do this:

1 - L = leave open
2 - ill + = switched 12V +
3 - B = switched 12 +
4 - HR = ground
5 - LH = leave open
6 - FS = ground
7 - E = leave open
8 - ill - = ground

thats 2 wires, + and -

+ to pins ill + and B
- to pins HR, FS and ill-

Unfortunately that didn't work. What I need is a +12V wire that comes from the button to the 85 pin on the relay. I have tried a ton of combinations but cant seem to find a +12V out.

[cyprus_gt]

in that case i think you need to do this:

1 - L = leave open
2 - ill + = switched 12V +
3 - B = switched 12 +
4 - HR = ground
5 - LH = leave open
6 - FS = ground
7 - E = leave open
8 - ill - = ground

thats 2 wires, + and -

+ to pins ill + and B
- to pins HR, FS and ill-

Unfortunately that didn't work. What I need is a +12V wire that comes from the button to the 85 pin on the relay. I have tried a ton of combinations but cant seem to find a +12V out.

I just get a button form the UK GT Celica and has different diagram...like
1- ill - ground
2- ill - 12v .....but when you open the button you will see it ...so maybe your button is not like this diagram show before...

cheers

This post has been edited by cyprus_gt: Dec 12, 2009 - 12:48 PM

[ST-Autosport]

well i have been trying to connect my 8pin button too....

UK type 8pin switch to a JDM car....

1 - L = to rear fog indicator light on dash, color = R
2 - ill + = tap into any ill source on dash
3 - B = from fuse ECU-B (so +), color = G-R
4 - HR = from HEAD relay (A2 side of the relay/coil) so that fog only operates when lights are ON, color = R-Y
5 - LH = to light control switch/ daytime running light relay pin "H" (sits on top of integration relay), color = R-B
6 - FS = from front fog light relay (A2 side of the relay/coil) , so if you don't have front fogs or relay -> earth to chassis ground, color = G-B
7 - E = other side of the dash indicator light, goes to junction block Nr 3, pin 3A, color = W-B
8 - ill - = earth to chassis ground or ill - anywhere in dash

i have ALL wiring diagrams....

i tested all with a multimeter to be sure i had the correct wires....

connected it all, being sure i had everything correct....

but it did NOT work

it ended up buzzing continiusly the buzzer that my headlights were on, with ignition off...

then i connected HR pin i think to switched 12V because from schematics it came from direct 12V trough the headlight relay (hense the constant buzzer), but DO NOT DO THAT!, my swich began t smell and smoke, i quickly cut the wire...

sooo to make this short, i installed a simple button on the lower kickpanel, and used the ill pins on the fog switch as fog indicator....

expensive fog light switch lolz