Alan's NEW PROJECT, 600+ BHP, 2007-2008 (with pics) Options

[Alan]

Hey Guys I have a 3SGE motor my dad and I are gonna tune it up for some high power outputs, which is going to be use for the quatermile but must also be street leagal and drivable

I need some Ideas of what I can to It. I already have alot of ideas but Would like to get some of your ideas.

I posted it hear because most I need some suggestions for the turbocharger and stuff

This post has been edited by Alan: May 13, 2007 - 4:19 AM

[malpaso]

nice toy

[tufy]

what a clean engine. good luck with the build man...

[x_itchy_b_x]

you old setup is nice! i cant wait to see this one!
Good luck with the build.

[Alan]

Thanks Guys but does anyone have a few Ideas for me

This post has been edited by Alan: Mar 9, 2007 - 8:59 AM

[WannabeGT4]

Hydra Nemesis
T-88
RMR manifold
Speed Source fuel rail

[Alan]

Hydra Nemesis
T-88
RMR manifold
Speed Source fuel rail

I already have an EMS fully programmable from haltech its the best as for the turbo, I was thinking the GT3582R, but in abit of a dilema, notsure between that and the GT40R suggestions? as for the RMR mainfol YES definatly and the Fuel rail also, already on my list

[x_itchy_b_x]

Just to give you some idea on mods to do to obtain that HP.

[malpaso]

Thanks Guys but does anyone have a few Ideas for me

...maybe some nice sticker or badge

[Alan]

Ok martin ill put a sticker on when its done up hehe

this is what I had in mind, but I need some background info and maybe people with simialar upgrades to help me choose



Parts for next project


Ross Machined Aluminum plenum with mustang 75mm throttle body - the throttle body!!!

Wide-band controller from Haltech

Pauter 4340 Forged rods

JE pistons & Total seal gapless Rings

HKS Head gasket (1.6mm)

arp flywheel studs

arp Main bearings

arp rod bolts

arp head studs

Head ported & polished

Clutch ACT and flywheel

Shimmless buckets of new MR2 (lighter valve trian)

hks 272 inlet and 264 exhaust cams

Denso Iridium Plugs

1000cc RC injectors

Aeromotive fuel regulator

walbro 255 fuel pump

Tial Waste gate 60mm

Custom Exhaust Manifold SS

Garrett gt35r turbo or gt40R

HKS Ait filter 180x200


This post has been edited by Alan: Mar 9, 2007 - 10:11 AM

[snapshotgt]

What happened to your old setup?

[Alan]

What happened to your old setup?

What you mean old I just finished it

Nothing but I want more power and the setup I have now is stock, or so to speak , I mean the motor is stock

This post has been edited by Alan: Mar 9, 2007 - 12:55 PM

[TomPoz]

Good plan, fingers crossed for it. When you're finished I will copy it.

[raj1]

you could try the HKS 2.2 stroker kit?

[Alan]

you could try the HKS 2.2 stroker kit?

Donno, I dont no anyone who has used it on there celica, but i think ill leave it a 2lt

[playr158]

HKS is over priced by alot...i'd look into ATS or piecing your own together

[midengine3sgte]

good luck. I'm in the same boat gotta finish my setup. I have a gt30 turbo with the manifold and exhaust housing thermal coated and a st205 inter cooler w/ hks 265 high lift cams, 255 fuel pump, 9.0 to 1 je pistons and a hks fcon v pro that still needs to be installed. still deciding if I should use the inter cooler and what size injectors and intake manifold? shooting for 650hp

[Alan]

good luck. I'm in the same boat gotta finish my setup. I have a gt30 turbo with the manifold and exhaust housing thermal coated and a st205 inter cooler w/ hks 265 high lift cams, 255 fuel pump, 9.0 to 1 je pistons and a hks fcon v pro that still needs to be installed. still deciding if I should use the inter cooler and what size injectors and intake manifold? shooting for 650hp

I dont think using the stock GT4 intercooler is a good idea, It will not withsatnd that much power, you will need a FMI for that much power, and an intercooler that flows good and does its job correctly, I am going for the 1000 cc top feed injectors, you cant go wronge there as long as you have an ECU fully programable.

[playr158]

good luck. I'm in the same boat gotta finish my setup. I have a gt30 turbo with the manifold and exhaust housing thermal coated and a st205 inter cooler w/ hks 265 high lift cams, 255 fuel pump, 9.0 to 1 je pistons and a hks fcon v pro that still needs to be installed. still deciding if I should use the inter cooler and what size injectors and intake manifold? shooting for 650hp

I dont think using the stock GT4 intercooler is a good idea, It will not withsatnd that much power, you will need a FMI for that much power, and an intercooler that flows good and does its job correctly, I am going for the 1000 cc top feed injectors, you cant go wronge there as long as you have an ECU fully programable.

you don't need a FMIC for his 650hp goal...you can do it A2W intercooler...but it would need to be an aftermarket unit...stock supports ~400hp
Spearco makes a nice unit if u go the money

[Alan]

good luck. I'm in the same boat gotta finish my setup. I have a gt30 turbo with the manifold and exhaust housing thermal coated and a st205 inter cooler w/ hks 265 high lift cams, 255 fuel pump, 9.0 to 1 je pistons and a hks fcon v pro that still needs to be installed. still deciding if I should use the inter cooler and what size injectors and intake manifold? shooting for 650hp

I dont think using the stock GT4 intercooler is a good idea, It will not withsatnd that much power, you will need a FMI for that much power, and an intercooler that flows good and does its job correctly, I am going for the 1000 cc top feed injectors, you cant go wronge there as long as you have an ECU fully programable.

you don't need a FMIC for his 650hp goal...you can do it A2W intercooler...but it would need to be an aftermarket unit...stock supports ~400hp
Spearco makes a nice unit if u go the money

Of course you can, was just saying if you where to use a A2A intercooler it would have to be front mounted.
Do you have any info about the 400HP celica with stock intercooler, I dont think It would last that long if there is one.
I have a Race intercooler and is only Good for 350WHP.

[Alan]

Come to Think of it is there anyone using a L2A intercooler with this much power? I think it would be much more efficient (shorter Piping) and also maybe a bigger radiator.

What do you think? Good!

[Alan]

I was hinkin gof this type of setup for my New intercooler, what do you guys think. (This is a MR2 Turbo not celica)



DO you think this setup WIll be more efficient than a A2A intercooler? I read alot about the w2A and it is much better by theory, does anyone know about ths setuo of have one on there cars?

[JesterDC]

DO you think this setup WIll be more efficient than a A2A intercooler? I read alot about the w2A and it is much better by theory, does anyone know about ths setuo of have one on there cars?

For street use and moderate power, A2A is great for little maitnance and reliability. For Massive Power and definite drag use a W2A can cool much more effectively, Ice can be added to the resivoir to make the water that much colder. I've also seen one setup where a guy was running a mixture of coolants with very low freezing points and dry ice(solid CO2) in his W2A resivoir tank, his intake temp was below freezing, but he wasn't running too much boost to begin with and he was just doing that "just because"

[yungazzdriver]

Nice man especially because you think Haltech is the Best,...................because it is the best imo, i got the e6x with built in map and ill tell ya very nice tuning and way better options than other ems' gotta b the best !!!!!!!!!

[Rockford]

do you want to sell the turbo + manifold ???

[Alan]

DO you think this setup WIll be more efficient than a A2A intercooler? I read alot about the w2A and it is much better by theory, does anyone know about ths setuo of have one on there cars?

For street use and moderate power, A2A is great for little maitnance and reliability. For Massive Power and definite drag use a W2A can cool much more effectively, Ice can be added to the resivoir to make the water that much colder. I've also seen one setup where a guy was running a mixture of coolants with very low freezing points and dry ice(solid CO2) in his W2A resivoir tank, his intake temp was below freezing, but he wasn't running too much boost to begin with and he was just doing that "just because"

Cool man thanks Ill seriously thinking about putting it on

Nice man especially because you think Haltech is the Best,...................because it is the best imo, i got the e6x with built in map and ill tell ya very nice tuning and way better options than other ems' gotta b the best !!!!!!!!!

hehe I have the E8 and I love it

do you want to sell the turbo + manifold ???

Youll have to wait till I finish this project though

[JesterDC]

No problem good luck with your project

[Blakout16]

that mr2 that got 632 hp did that all with stock cams. wow huh

[Alan]

that mr2 that got 632 hp did that all with stock cams. wow huh

Yeah hehe I am aiming for that but with bigger cams

[95st-celica]

Hey Guys I just bought a new 3rd generation 3SGTE, my dad and I are gonna tune it up for some high power outputs, which is going to be use for the quatermile but must also be street leagal Pics below:




Tell me what you think of the Engine and may be some Ideas of what I can to It. I already have alot of ideas but Would like to get some of your ideas.

I posted it hear because most I need some suggestions for the turbocharger and stuff

are you puttin that in another celica?? lets see some pics of the car its goin in!! haha should be nice man your other celi is beautiful

[Alan]

Its going in the same celica, but the engine is going to be completley rebuilt to race spec

[yozef]

Hi Alan. You never finish to amaze me!! Dips on all parts coming off the St205 engine!! You have my numbers

[Alan]

Ok so I ordered the pistons and rods, I went for the 86.5mm pistons, because I dont want to take of too much of the cylinder block walls as the st205s wall are thinner than the old generation.

Ohh and I also ordered my suspesions. pics below








... also the motor is disassemmble and I am currently woking on the head, the cleaning proccess is underway, I will be also be porting and polishing the head myself

This post has been edited by Alan: Apr 21, 2007 - 12:35 AM

[Gary]

Alan,
Does RMR already make 3rd gen intake manifold for Celica setup?
The A/W IC set up is nice but almost every alltrac owner I know that is pushing that much power goes with FMIC.
You might have heard of Pat C. in south FL.
He ditched his TTE w/a setup when he was ~400ish awhp.
IIRC, he was running in high 11s-low 12s with that setup
He is now pushing ~600+ awhp with his stroked 2nd gen with a huge a/a FMIC.
There is a glimpse of his black ST185 in SCC mag. this month.
Hopefully, he will be in the USCC this year.

This post has been edited by Gary: Apr 21, 2007 - 2:00 AM

[Alan]

Alan,
Does RMR already make 3rd gen intake manifold for Celica setup?
The A/W IC set up is nice but almost every alltrac owner I know that is pushing that much power goes with FMIC.
You might have heard of Pat C. in south FL.
He ditched his TTE w/a setup when he was ~400ish awhp.
IIRC, he was running in high 11s-low 12s with that setup
He is now pushing ~600+ awhp with his stroked 2nd gen with a huge a/a FMIC.
There is a glimpse of his black ST185 in SCC mag. this month.
Hopefully, he will be in the USCC this year.

Thanks manfor that useful info, ironically today I was talking to a friend of mine and the A/W setup is efficient but for a very short time, as the water heats up very quickly, I decided to go with another FMIC with aluminum piping for better cooling and wieght.
RMR does not make intakes for 3gen, but I will be fabricating one my self when I have all the parts I need, . My taget BHP is 650BHP still not sure how these engines can handle high revs, I hope with these rods and ACL bearings I can push the 9000 range :s

[Alan]

Ok almost got enough for it now, What do you guy think of this Turbo (below) on my 6GC, I am not sure how it will work because of the size, but Nissan SR20s use it alot for there motors.

This turbo :


Along with this wastegate:


I need feedback from the Pros

[Consynx]

do you poop money?
HKS's biggest turbo and their wastegate, that's more than my entire single set-up right there. . .

the T51R is gonna be real laggy on a 2.0L i'm guessin, based off the #'s supras put down w/ it, and it's fairly easy to guess rpm of spool by their power output.

*edit*
just read u want 1/4mile. . .
that will do if you do cams n such...but beware that although you may stay street legal, driving it ON the street is going to be something else

This post has been edited by Consynx: Apr 29, 2007 - 12:50 AM

[Alan]

Ill be using it on the road, but just to drive to the strip witch is a few minutes away from where I live, I what it to be mostly for quatermile. any more suggestions ?? i could use them

PS I dont poop money hehe I just spend everything on my 6GC while I can that is

This post has been edited by Alan: Apr 29, 2007 - 11:35 AM

[vsideboy]

you want to speak to TUFY mate, I think his is about 600bhp.

[x_itchy_b_x]

the turbo i have is good for 600bhp like 500whp so I can tell ya that its fine on the street. extremely fun. you'll just be down shifting often when you want spool up and take off. i dont have 500 whp lol but its very streetable with cams and larger turbo.

[Alan]

you want to speak to TUFY mate, I think his is about 600bhp.

I speak to ismet a lot he is a good friend of mine, but he is running a GT35, the T51 spl is like a GT42 size wise, its a beast .

the turbo i have is good for 600bhp like 500whp so I can tell ya that its fine on the street. extremely fun. you'll just be down shifting often when you want spool up and take off. i dont have 500 whp lol but its very streetable with cams and larger turbo.

How much boost are you running? and when does it start in the rev range?

[x_itchy_b_x]

well it's a holset hx35. its right around gt30 area. full boost of 1 bar at before 4500rpm.
its slow to spool at first, but once it makes it to 5psi it shoots up to 14.5psi alot quicker.
and with cams it just keeps making power all the way to 8200rpm (thats my rev limit anyway, it safer to go higher but meh)

[Alan]

well it's a holset hx35. its right around gt30 area. full boost of 1 bar at before 4500rpm.
its slow to spool at first, but once it makes it to 5psi it shoots up to 14.5psi alot quicker.
and with cams it just keeps making power all the way to 8200rpm (thats my rev limit anyway, it safer to go higher but meh)

I WAS GOING FOR 9000RPM DO YOU THINK ITS A BAD IDEA, WHAT BEARINGS ARE YOU USEING, ARE THE RACE SPEC?
I THINK THE T51R WOULD BOOST AT AROUND 6000 BECAUSE OF ITS SIZE :S I NEED IT TO REV MORE !!!
WHAT DO YOU THINK?

[x_itchy_b_x]

for 9000rpm race bearings would be a good idea. also shimless buckets to lighten up the valve train would be a very good idea. also a higher volume oil pump. having the rotating assembly balanced would be good too. thats a pretty high rpm. ive seen plenty mr2 3sgtes run 8500 with just valve springs but 9000 is getting close to crazy

I'm on a stock bottom end (for now) and head. Just cams and valve springs.
Cant wait to see your build up.

[Alan]

for 9000rpm race bearings would be a good idea. also shimless buckets to lighten up the valve train would be a very good idea. also a higher volume oil pump. having the rotating assembly balanced would be good too. thats a pretty high rpm. ive seen plenty mr2 3sgtes run 8500 with just valve springs but 9000 is getting close to crazy

I'm on a stock bottom end (for now) and head. Just cams and valve springs.
Cant wait to see your build up.

Yes i will be ding all that but never heared of an aftermarket Oil pump where can I get it?

[x_itchy_b_x]

you can get a Toga from here
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/impo...umpstoyota.html
or shim your stocker, theres a thread on the forum about it somewhere.
toga sounds like the best bet.

[Alan]

Naaa, I prefer to buy it new, when it comes down to my celica or somthing that important, thanks for the link man, I never thought there where any THANKS !!!

[Alan]

Ok Guys tomorrow my order will be confirmed what do you think of these I need some feedback, mostly on the T51R any comments?

HKS T51 SPL Turbo
HKS GT 11 wastegate
HKS 272 cams
HKS fuel rail upgrade
HKS Timing belt
HKS 1000cc Top feed
SARD int-ank fuel Pump (280l/h)
Blitz i-color boost controller

[x_itchy_b_x]

i wish i could comment on the t51 but i'm not familiar with it one bit.
everything else looks great for your goals.

[Alan]

DO YOU THINK IT IS TOO BIG? I KNOW THE GT35R WILL GIVE ME 600bhp BUT IF I WOULD WANT TO INCREASE IN THE FUTURE, I AM LIMITED!

[celicast3sgte]

GEZZZZUUUUSSSSSS! a GT42 ona 2.0l 4cyl eh?? i hope you goal is well above 600 to be going with a turbo that big.

[Alan]

TO Say the truth I am still thinking about which turbo I need to get but not alot of people are giving me ideas of the turbo. I think I will be going the GT35 like Tufy, as he is the peoson who is helpign me out, and dont want to buy a too big Turbo and I will have no power at low RPM.

If anyone could give me more ideas It will be much better

[neoklis]

Am I mistaken or your engine is really the WRC version?

[Alan]

Am I mistaken or your engine is really the WRC version?

Dont know how can you tell? hehe

[Alan]

Ok i have confirmed my order and I dicided NOT!! to go for the T51R I was scared it will not do good for my setup, so I decide to go for the GT35R, I also ordered a tail 44mm wastegate 1000cc RC injectors HKS rail Sard fuel pump, and a new exhaust manifold. ohh and also a blitz boost controller and a few other things...
Hopefully It will be shipped Next week Ill post pics when they all arrive

[3WayStunna]

Nice readings on what your trying to do, and hey good luck with your setup alan!!!

[x_itchy_b_x]

How are things going on the build up?

[Alan]

I am currently waiting for the parts it takes ages this shipping :@ but yesterday I took out the head and stripped it to the bare head, in the weekend Ill givve it a small clean so that when the valves I ordered Arrive I could toke it for machining, ohh btw I also ordered Ferrea valves 1mm over size and titanium valves and retainers

[heatherx87x]

go with a gt 3076r .82 a/r sweet spool and nice power

[celicast3sgte]

^^^^ hahaha dude you needa read the post. he said hes ordered his **** already

[Alan]

hehe yeah, I went for the GT35Ras it will be for drag racing more than street use, I might also get the GT40 in the future now we will see how I go with this one first

[Alan]

Ok new toys in the house, and more coming in on monday take a look see

[shin]

oo pretty boost controller~

[Alan]

oo pretty boost controller~

Thanks man

[Alan]

Hey Guy Look at the goodies there are many more and ill take more pics when I have chance.









By the way if anyone is wondering, yes my room is full of parts

Tell Me what you think?

[x_itchy_b_x]

this is going to be a grade A build with these parts. nice to see.
lotta fuel and alotta boost NICE! V-band is amazing also.

[presure2]

yummy!

[Alan]

this is going to be a grade A build with these parts. nice to see.
lotta fuel and alotta boost NICE! V-band is amazing also.

Definatly Grade A , I am investing to beat the Honda Integras in My country and some cosworths the record for quater mile drag is 10.6sec (FWD) for the honda and 10.2 sec (4X4)for the cosworth and they are both street leagle, If I can break the 11 sec barrior I will be happy as out cars are not light and the honda that does 10.6 is a 1990 civic and striped.

yummy!

Yes they are quite

[cel97ica]

you said your going to mostly use this on the drag strip which is a good idea, but you should take the beast on the street every now and again just to show everyone

just try not to get any tickets

[Alan]

you said your going to mostly use this on the drag strip which is a good idea, but you should take the beast on the street every now and again just to show everyone

just try not to get any tickets

oh man most definatly, It will be for the street as well but in Malta we have small streets no high ways and rough roads, Ill do most of the speeding on the track if you no what I mean

[cel97ica]

wait Malta, NY?????

[Alan]

wait Malta, NY?????

No In Europe, not the states hehe

[cel97ica]

ah man if you lived in the states that would of been sick oh well

[vsideboy]

did you re-organise your dvd's so we don't see the most embarrassing ones?

actually having a look back at the pictures, maybe not!

[Alan]

ah man if you lived in the states that would of been sick oh well

Yeah i would love to live somewhere were rhey have long roads lol

did you re-organise your dvd's so we don't see the most embarrassing ones?

actually having a look back at the pictures, maybe not!

Nahhh didnt arrange them ooops haha, the parts are the main attraction right

[vsideboy]

ah man if you lived in the states that would of been sick oh well

Yeah i would love to live somewhere were rhey have long roads lol

did you re-organise your dvd's so we don't see the most embarrassing ones?

actually having a look back at the pictures, maybe not!

Nahhh didnt arrange them ooops haha, the parts are the main attraction right

Don't know mate, I'm finding 'PUMPING IRON' , 'SHALL WE DANCE' & 'THE PRINCESS DIARIES 2' a bit 'interesting'?!?!?!?

haha

seriously parts look sweet, have to give us some pics with them all on the car mate.

Dan

[Alan]

ah man if you lived in the states that would of been sick oh well

Yeah i would love to live somewhere were rhey have long roads lol

did you re-organise your dvd's so we don't see the most embarrassing ones?

actually having a look back at the pictures, maybe not!

Nahhh didnt arrange them ooops haha, the parts are the main attraction right

Don't know mate, I'm finding 'PUMPING IRON' , 'SHALL WE DANCE' & 'THE PRINCESS DIARIES 2' a bit 'interesting'?!?!?!?

haha

seriously parts look sweet, have to give us some pics with them all on the car mate.

Dan

Thanks bruv ill post as soon as possible

New Parts got the Fuel rail for the 1000cc RC injectors these was custome made for a 3rd gen 3SGTE Ill be using black fitting for a standard look on the new Engine.

[yozef]

Great stuff Alan.. Keep us posted my firend. I would love to come and have a look at what you are doing. Maybe help as well!! Its nice to see someone took the initiative of holding the Toyota flag at Hal Far (1/4 mile).

I might be interested is buying some parts off the st205 so when you start taking things off keep me in mind. I am thinking of turboing my 3s-ge just for fun!

[Alan]

HEHE Thanks buddy, and yeah come over when ever you like bro, right now I am spraying some pieces of the celica like the wing and sideskirts but when its ready ill come up and show you it:).
Rught now I am not doing anything on the new engine as I need to buy all the cylinderhead stuff and carbon clutch and I need alot more money hehe, but ill be starting shortly

[yozef]

Great stuff looking forward mate

[playr158]

for your custom RC injectors, are they providing you with a part number so that they can be referenced later? because if you do, shoot me a pm with it please

[Alan]

for your custom RC injectors, are they providing you with a part number so that they can be referenced later? because if you do, shoot me a pm with it please

No the injectors are not custom made they are 1000cc top feed from RC low impedence of course, my rail was custom made

[Wolf_tm]

Hi Alan,

do you need a custom aluminum made fuel tank pickup for your A1000 ?

It's the one I used for 2 month when I had the A1000 too.

Feed line is AN#10, return line is AN#8.





Bye.

[Alan]

I am using 2 fuels pumps a intank one and the A1000 will it still work ? dont think so :S

[Consynx]

nvm

This post has been edited by Consynx: Aug 4, 2007 - 1:01 PM

[Wolf_tm]

I am using 2 fuels pumps a intank one and the A1000 will it still work ? dont think so :S

Hi Alan,

no, it won't work... I made that pickup to avoid using an intank fuel pump...

Bye !

[x_itchy_b_x]

Hows this project going? update us Alan!

[Alan]

At the moment It is on hold , I need to get alot more parts and at the moment am broke hehe, but ill update as soon as I hava everything, BTW I am thinking of sending my head to MCS, How did you find them?

[frosty]

At the moment It is on hold , I need to get alot more parts and at the moment am broke hehe, but ill update as soon as I hava everything, BTW I am thinking of sending my head to MCS, How did you find them?

I thought you said you were going to do the head work? Just wondering what changed your mind..

[x_itchy_b_x]

MCS is a big forum vendor at mr2oc and they are great. we had a communication issue but the job they did was immaculate. id recommend them again just for being a 3sgte specialist.

[Alan]

At the moment It is on hold , I need to get alot more parts and at the moment am broke hehe, but ill update as soon as I hava everything, BTW I am thinking of sending my head to MCS, How did you find them?

I thought you said you were going to do the head work? Just wondering what changed your mind..

I didnt say I o the head work, I have a friend who does the work dont have the neccessary tools to do it myself, I think MCS would do a better job don you

MCS is a big forum vendor at mr2oc and they are great. we had a communication issue but the job they did was immaculate. id recommend them again just for being a 3sgte specialist.

Thanks man!

[frosty]

At the moment It is on hold , I need to get alot more parts and at the moment am broke hehe, but ill update as soon as I hava everything, BTW I am thinking of sending my head to MCS, How did you find them?

I thought you said you were going to do the head work? Just wondering what changed your mind..

I didnt say I o the head work, I have a friend who does the work dont have the neccessary tools to do it myself, I think MCS would do a better job don you

MCS is a big forum vendor at mr2oc and they are great. we had a communication issue but the job they did was immaculate. id recommend them again just for being a 3sgte specialist.

Thanks man!

Oh, I'm not knocking you for not doing it yourself at all. Definitely anyone who does it for a living (MCS) would be the better choice. Just get her up and running soon with some vids and pics !

[Alan]

Ok guy huge change in plans hehe, I am not sending my head away I am going to do everything myself, ill be more prode of the result.
Here what i am going to do Not using the motor I sold it in fact, Ill be using my 3rd gen 3SGE with alot of custom work incuding inlet manifold ect, I am still using the parts I have now.
Next week ordering clutch, timing belt gasket, All HKS, have one slight dilemma, What F**king Transmisson should I use, Will the mr2 LSD tranny be the best choice I currently have the S54 but there are no clutches for it, there are but small diameter, I want power so hence larger diameter
Also ill be using the standar head for this as the cams have longer durations and higher life
I need some good advice before ordering my clutch!!!

[frosty]

From the mr2s' I've seen use the s54 tran. but they're output is around 400 whp. I would believe it would work for the extra 100+whp you're wanting.

[Alan]

From the mr2s' I've seen use the s54 tran. but they're output is around 400 whp. I would believe it would work for the extra 100+whp you're wanting.

The clutch is much smaller than that of the E153 and it is lees durable :S

[presure2]

interesting plans alan.
i would go with the e153, not so much because of clutch size (its only 11mm diffrence between the s54 (225mm) VS the e153 (236mm) but because of gearing.
if your planning on tracking the car (which i hope you are) you'll be better served by the e153 gearing.

[Kadett]

The gearing isn't that much of a difference. You need to remember that the EU/JDM S54 tranny has a smaller F/D (3.9xx compared to the US 4.2xx) thus effectively having longer gears.

[Alan]

I need shorter gears as I dont see alot at the quater mile only 108 mph 13sec for now but I only got to 3rd gear Pressure what u mean by tracking the car :s?

[devilsden97]

Awesome build so far.


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I need shorter gears as I dont see alot at the quater mile only 108 mph 13sec for now but I only got to 3rd gear Pressure what u mean by tracking the car :s?

"Tracking" I would assume he means Racing the car.

This post has been edited by devilsden97: Dec 17, 2007 - 1:30 PM

[celicast3sgte]

left turn/right turn. or 1/4mile would be my guess