Turboing a 7A-FE, all the parts and procedure Options

[CelicaST_CALI]

ok im thinking of turboing my 7A-FE in about a or so.All the parts and prices are here:

Turbo=$300, header=$150 intercooler & piping & BOV=$275, oil return=$85 oil feed lines =$85 fuel pump=$100, FPR=$30-50 boost gauge=$40 boost controller=$25 check vavles = $10 misc. vac. hoses =$5-10$

Is all this correct?Feel feel to edit prices or what not,any info on how to install the turbo and other parts will be appreciated!!



EDIT:whats the gas milage of a 7A-FTE?

This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: Jun 28, 2007 - 4:52 PM

[Shocker]

you will want somthing to keep your oil in check..Such as gauges..
Maby somthing to control the air fuel ratio also..Keep trying.

[celicast3sgte]

ok im thinking of turboing my 7A-FE in about a or so.All the parts and prices are here:

Turbo=$300, header=$150 intercooler & piping & BOV=$275, oil return=$85 oil feed lines =$85 fuel pump=$100, FPR=$30-50 boost gauge=$40 boost controller=$25 check vavles = $10 misc. vac. hoses =$5-10$

Is all this correct?Feel feel to edit prices or what not,any info on how to install the turbo and other parts will be appreciated!!

[b]turbo-350-500, header 150-250, IC/piping/bov 400, oil return/feed/restrictor 100$, fuel pump 100-150, fpr 50-120, boost gauge 40ish, controller 45-80, misc 700, safc2 250???

thats getting you closer

This post has been edited by celicast3sgte: May 16, 2007 - 10:29 PM

[jesterwr217]

yea total ive spent like 3000 and im still addn stuff as i go

[6strngs]

ok im thinking of turboing my 7A-FE in about a or so.All the parts and prices are here:

Turbo=$300, header=$150 intercooler & piping & BOV=$275, oil return=$85 oil feed lines =$85 fuel pump=$100, FPR=$30-50 boost gauge=$40 boost controller=$25 check vavles = $10 misc. vac. hoses =$5-10$

Is all this correct?Feel feel to edit prices or what not,any info on how to install the turbo and other parts will be appreciated!!

not quite.
manifold $200 (might have to be custom made)
turbo $500 minimum! (depends on which one) unless you can find a way to use the stock turbo from another car. like the way the honda guys use mitsubishi eclipse GST turbos, or I'm going to use a CT-26 from an mr2 turbo
downpipe $250
intercooler, piping, couplers, clamps $500-750
BOV $175
oil return $75
oil feed $50
fuel pump $120
FPR ?
boost gauge $50-200
oil pressure gauge $50-200
gauge pod $50+
boost controller $50-300
Air fuel controller $250-600
custom exhaust $300-500 + muffler

I'm not as familiar with the 7afte but those are your basic parts. I'm not sure if you need bigger injectors or not. plus you'll need to have it tuned on a dyno so add like $150-300 for that.

but seriously, don't ask us to give you the ENTIRE parts list. You're going to have read and research for months. you really need to understand what everything does. The turbo is not a simple project, and you don't even have your license yet. seriously, wait until you have the car, then do simple things like changing the oil and replacing spark plugs while you read and research and maybe you'll be ready to delve into a turbo project in several months.

[CelicaST_CALI]

yea ive been looking at all th parts and researchering and just about ever price 6strngs put up is way over what it really is.But thx for the help!And i have really already been reseaching WHat the turbo does,psi,etc.I have a feeling im just going to buy all the parts over a year..

This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: May 17, 2007 - 12:26 PM

[6strngs]

yea ive been looking at all th parts and researchering and just about ever price 6strngs put up is way over what it really is.But thx for the help!And i have really already been reseaching WHat the turbo does,psi,etc.I have a feeling im just going to buy all the parts over a year..

my prices are pretty close to reality. except maybe the turbo and manifold. but, I think you need to have a custom manifold made, and if you're buying like a T3/T4 it'll cost like $500-1000 (i'm not really sure). If you think you can get these parts for cheaper, then go right ahead. but I paid close to these prices for my parts and I shopped around for the best deals I could find.

[aslearvert]

What about injectors? Did someone already say that? Are they needed?

Whoops sorry I see someone already put that.

This post has been edited by aslearvert: May 17, 2007 - 12:53 PM

[CelicaST_CALI]

Yea i think im going to go with the T-3.Ebay has a few right now under 500$.But as i said im going to wait around a year before i start building,ill just buy the parts one at a time and get the best deals.

[Celiracer18]

Ive been getting all the parts for a 7AFTE setup in the past few months and heres what ive come up with for the cost of doing it and where i got the parts from:
$110 - Intercooler Piping Kit with T-Bolt clamps (Ebay)
$125 - Greddy BOV (Ebay)
$160 - Gauges (AFR, electrical Boost, Oil Pressure) (DEFTRacing)
$50 - Oil feed line (Ebay)
$80 - Oil drain line (Ebay)
$35 - Oil catch can (Ebay)
$52 - Gauge Pod (Lotek 3-gauge) (Lotek's site)
$85 - MR2 MAP sensor (MR2OC)
$35 - Silicone Tee Hose for BOV (Ebay)
$270 - SAFC2 (Ebay)
$360 - Turbo from a Subaru Legacy (IHI RHB5), Manifold, FMU, 250cc 4AGE injectors, INNOVATE LC-1 Wideband O2 Sensor, Manual Boost Controller (all from a 6GC member)
$50 - OEM Supra intercooler, and 440CC 7MGTE Injectors (a local buddy)
$300 - 2.5" exhaust with a custom made flange

Total
$1712 + some time to put it all in and without tuning

with tuning it will probably be over 2k depending on how much the fees are for dyno time

feel free to PM me if you have any questions about this

[6strngs]

Ive been getting all the parts for a 7AFTE setup in the past few months and heres what ive come up with for the cost of doing it and where i got the parts from:
$110 - Intercooler Piping Kit with T-Bolt clamps (Ebay)
$125 - Greddy BOV (Ebay)
$160 - Gauges (AFR, electrical Boost, Oil Pressure) (DEFTRacing)
$50 - Oil feed line (Ebay)
$80 - Oil drain line (Ebay)
$35 - Oil catch can (Ebay)
$52 - Gauge Pod (Lotek 3-gauge) (Lotek's site)
$85 - MR2 MAP sensor (MR2OC)
$35 - Silicone Tee Hose for BOV (Ebay)
$270 - SAFC2 (Ebay)
$360 - Turbo from a Subaru Legacy (IHI RHB5), Manifold, FMU, 250cc 4AGE injectors, INNOVATE LC-1 Wideband O2 Sensor, Manual Boost Controller (all from a 6GC member)
$50 - OEM Supra intercooler, and 440CC 7MGTE Injectors (a local buddy)
$300 - 2.5" exhaust with a custom made flange

Total
$1712 + some time to put it all in and without tuning

with tuning it will probably be over 2k depending on how much the fees are for dyno time

feel free to PM me if you have any questions about this

you have a manifold or a downpipe? fuel pump?

[trd94]

it really depends on how long you want it to run and last with some of the ebay stuff ,some of it is ok and you could find good deals on name brand stuff . i built my celica on a budget and got the cheap ebay knock offs and ended up buying the good stuff a month or so later and so far tuning it has cost a bit . but i am always after more.... haha

[95st-celica]

ok im thinking of turboing my 7A-FE in about a or so.All the parts and prices are here:

Turbo=$300, header=$150 intercooler & piping & BOV=$275, oil return=$85 oil feed lines =$85 fuel pump=$100, FPR=$30-50 boost gauge=$40 boost controller=$25 check vavles = $10 misc. vac. hoses =$5-10$

Is all this correct?Feel feel to edit prices or what not,any info on how to install the turbo and other parts will be appreciated!!

funny you should start this post because i was seriously thinkin about doin the same thing to mine....if you do do it let me know how it works out for you...n check this out:

http://www.6gc.net/howto/turbocharge_your_7afe

[trdcelica94]

know way you can get a boost controller for $25 its like $400-$600 depending on which one your are buying

[devilsden97]

cheap turbo project = blown motor.

Save money, and do it right. U get what u pay for. yes there are some places that you can get a "deal" but some u just have to bite the bullet, and drop the dough to get something that is going to perform.

[Celiracer18]

Ive been getting all the parts for a 7AFTE setup in the past few months and heres what ive come up with for the cost of doing it and where i got the parts from:
$110 - Intercooler Piping Kit with T-Bolt clamps (Ebay)
$125 - Greddy BOV (Ebay)
$160 - Gauges (AFR, electrical Boost, Oil Pressure) (DEFTRacing)
$50 - Oil feed line (Ebay)
$80 - Oil drain line (Ebay)
$35 - Oil catch can (Ebay)
$52 - Gauge Pod (Lotek 3-gauge) (Lotek's site)
$85 - MR2 MAP sensor (MR2OC)
$35 - Silicone Tee Hose for BOV (Ebay)
$270 - SAFC2 (Ebay)
$360 - Turbo from a Subaru Legacy (IHI RHB5), Manifold, FMU, 250cc 4AGE injectors, INNOVATE LC-1 Wideband O2 Sensor, Manual Boost Controller (all from a 6GC member) Fuel Pump
$50 - OEM Supra intercooler, and 440CC 7MGTE Injectors (a local buddy)
$300 - 2.5" exhaust with a custom made flange including a Downpipe

Total
$1712 + some time to put it all in and without tuning

with tuning it will probably be over 2k depending on how much the fees are for dyno time

feel free to PM me if you have any questions about this

you have a manifold or a downpipe? fuel pump?

I included the manifold in there somewhere, the fuel pump i forgot but it was included with the turbo and manifold. Downpipes for IHI RHBs are few and far between so a custom one is being made with the rest of the exhaust

[manphibian]

How would someone your age get insurance on such a highly modified car?

Either insurance policies are VERY different over there or you'll be doing it illegally and not declaring?!

[playr158]

Ebay generic turbos are crap and will break quick...waste of money

MBC = 30$ EBC = 200+

[GTS13]

Since when do you tell your insurance that you've turboed your NA car? lol.

[DSToyo]

^ yeah, all they need to know is what year/type of car you have, right.

This post has been edited by DSToyo: May 18, 2007 - 4:37 PM

[playr158]

oh i guess some of this might help

EBAY
~Honda B16 turbo manifold
~aromotive FPR
~SAFC II
~BOV
~IC piping/couplers/hoses

OTHER THINGS
~JGSTOOLS 7afe engine flange (for headers)
~RC injectors
~turbo charger (T3s60)
~oil feed/drain/restrictor

but thats just some of the main things....it would help you to read the stickies...that myself, NIK, and others have written

[CelicaST_CALI]

yea i dont really think that the insurance company will know that im doing all these mods.

[southwest2118]

Ive been getting all the parts for a 7AFTE setup in the past few months and heres what ive come up with for the cost of doing it and where i got the parts from:
$110 - Intercooler Piping Kit with T-Bolt clamps (Ebay)
$125 - Greddy BOV (Ebay)
$160 - Gauges (AFR, electrical Boost, Oil Pressure) (DEFTRacing)
$50 - Oil feed line (Ebay)
$80 - Oil drain line (Ebay)
$35 - Oil catch can (Ebay)
$52 - Gauge Pod (Lotek 3-gauge) (Lotek's site)
$85 - MR2 MAP sensor (MR2OC)
$35 - Silicone Tee Hose for BOV (Ebay)
$270 - SAFC2 (Ebay)
$360 - Turbo from a Subaru Legacy (IHI RHB5), Manifold, FMU, 250cc 4AGE injectors, INNOVATE LC-1 Wideband O2 Sensor, Manual Boost Controller (all from a 6GC member)
$50 - OEM Supra intercooler, and 440CC 7MGTE Injectors (a local buddy)
$300 - 2.5" exhaust with a custom made flange



feel free to PM me if you have any questions about this

i know this has been talked about to death but ....... are ya'll putting in the 2bar map just to keep the CEL from coming on or are there anything performance wise. and what year range mr2 maps work?

i'm running around 10psi and haven't seen any problems


oh and my setup i put together for about 1100$-1500....i scared to go over 10psi with out that e-manage

This post has been edited by southwest2118: May 18, 2007 - 11:49 PM

[nik]

there is alot of info on here about turboing the 7afe and alot of good people to talk to. do a research on here there is good info as well as dyno # how to etc

[playr158]

2 bar map sensors eliminate the need of check valves (ghetto rigging)
and allows the ECU to see the boost, but you will need an SAFCII to adjust the readings to idle and run properly

[CelicaST_CALI]

ok well im pretty sure ive got my whole list done,and now im trying to figure the mpg im going to get with the turbo.What kinda milage do 7A-FTErs get?

[Culpable04]

ok well im pretty sure ive got my whole list done,and now im trying to figure the mpg im going to get with the turbo.What kinda milage do 7A-FTErs get?

if you're so concern about MPG don't turbo. a healthy 7AFE gives you ~ 30 MPG if you turbo it you'll get somewhere ~ 23 MPG.

[CelicaST_CALI]

i get 32 mpg with a stock 7a-fe and if a 7a-fte gets me 23 its ok.But there is like no other way to squeeze power out of a 7a-fe than to turbo it and im not going to put that much $ to do a engine swap.Unless theres a swap that would get me around 180 HP for the same cost as a 7a-fte. I dont think there is...

[jason]

ive spent about 400 bucks on the top of my engine n/a havent dyno'd it, but i saw an opportunity to cease some oil burning and i can deff tell its running alot better & stronger, pulls hard, i dont race, but its faster than an integra... also getting alot more per gallon under responsible driving conditions

if your going to be putting out that kind of money to be spoolin... i think it may also be a wise decision to also upgrade your internals... could make much more use out of your investment besides 50-70 more horses and do it safely

if i were you... since this is probably your only car... id also invest in a healthy daily driver and keep the celica as a fun car for nice days, dont want something to break and you be out a set of wheels