Supra Engine Options

[StalionCelica]

would i be able to put a Toyota Supra 93+Turbo 2JZGTTE engine in my 96' GT? if so what would i need

[Guest_Matthew_*]

a lot of $$$$$$ and a supra tranmission drive shaft axles new shocks etc. Basically like I said before, a lot of $$$$

[all4sho94st]

"with cash anything is possible"

[Coomer]

Anything's possible, but swapping in a 3S-GTE would be a much more sensible swap. A 2JZGTTE is gonna weigh a lot more than your current 2.2 liter 5S-FE, cost a lot more, plus that's a lot of power for a front wheel drive car(Though I'd imagine that if you did the 2JZGTTE swap you'd convert your car to all wheel drive.) The 3S-GTE would swap right in to your GT and can be made to put out lots and lots of power too.

[NEVERSTOP]

I agree with coomer about the weight issue... also there would be problems finding a transmission that would make it all wheel drive... would probably have to go with just rwd... also do the 3sgte swap... there are actually a few supras that have swapped out the 2jz for the 3sgte

[bonzaisushi]

lol it seems like a rwd converson would be insane, you would def be the burnout king i mean all that weigh up front and no weight in the back.. insane the 3sgte is a heavy engine to i heard becuz of its cast iron block. i just got a magazine called banzai its printed in canada and britan and japan and theres so many gt4's and corollas in there. we have a butt load of hondas here but in all those places toyota owns

[Blur]

Haha it'd be a tight idea if u had a buttload of money to throw away. My best friend did a swap on his 95 supra from NA to TT and we were thinkin about trying to put his old NA engine in my car but after a long discussion with the owner of our local shop about all the crap that i'd have to do to my car i decided against it. U might as well just buy a supra...

[Cody]

I'd rather get a '93 Supra WITH the engine than put it in my Celica. No offense to you guys, I mean, I love my car, but driving around a 320HP Supra is cooler than driving a 320HP Celica.

[Coomer]

QUOTE (MrCodyFantastic @ Jan 2 2003, 10:31 PM)

I'd rather get a '93 Supra WITH the engine than put it in my Celica. No offense to you guys, I mean, I love my car, but driving around a 320HP Supra is cooler than driving a 320HP Celica.

Imagine the possibilities of having a Celica with 320 horsepower(whether it's a 3S-GTE or a 2JZGTTE, 4A-GZE, etc.) and a all wheel drive or rear wheel drive conversion. You'd be such a sleeper, and so much faster than the Supra because of the weight difference(assuming you stuck with the 3S-GTE and modified the drivetrain so that the car isn't front wheel drive.) You'd roll up to close-to-stock Supras on the street and you'd smoke them!

[Cody]

Heh, I don't know. A Supra is still...sexier.

[bonzaisushi]

i say just buy both

[west_minist]

Ever check out the 1JZ-GTE.

That would be a nice swap to the 2JZ!

[bonzaisushi]

what u mean? taken a 2jz and dropin a 1jz in it? i hope not, 1jz are droped in the older supras with the 7mgte now thats a nice swap

[Guest_Matthew_*]

QUOTE (MrCodyFantastic @ Jan 2 2003, 10:31 PM)

I'd rather get a '93 Supra WITH the engine than put it in my Celica. No offense to you guys, I mean, I love my car, but driving around a 320HP Supra is cooler than driving a 320HP Celica.

I agree with coomer and neverstop. It's sounds like a cool idea but the weight would be a major factor. there's probably 1000 pounds difference in weight between the 2 cars. The celica would definitely be faster for the 1/4" mile. I'm not sure about top speed. The celica has less weight to carry. Think of it like this "which is harder to carry a feather or a brick?" Go with the 3S-GTE

[zipstrips]

the 3sgte is a more reliable engine anyway.

[bonzaisushi]

ur all right there but i think that if u put a 3sgte celica next to a 2jz celica what will get mor looks, im thinkin for show, but power shoot look at the top secret supra they swaped out the 2jz for a 3sgte I love what toyota does for me

[west_minist]

QUOTE (bonzaisushi @ Jan 6 2003, 03:14 AM)

ur all right there but i think that if u put a 3sgte celica next to a 2jz celica what will get mor looks, im thinkin for show, but power shoot look at the top secret supra they swaped out the 2jz for a 3sgte I love what toyota does for me

the Top secret supra takes part in the JGTC which have 300PS and 500PS classes.

The 2jz would be a over kill.

But to efficiency in structure and power, the 3sgte was choosen.

Also, the 3sgte sits way back in the engine bay, giving the car a 50:50 weight distribution.

Please also note that the 1JZ-GTE appears in the Toyota Soarer, Mark II and the Lexus GS or LS 300 or so.

To put it this way, it is the @JZ little sister.


But if I where you, I would go with th 3SGTE because of weight and parts.

http://www.speedtoys.com/~marcel/ta23/1jzg...gte/1jzgte.html

1JZ-GTE
Weight (complete) : 217kg
Specs: 2491cc EFI DOHC 24-valve 6cyl twin turbo
Power: 280ps@6200rpm
Torque: 362Nm@4800rpm
Gearboxes: RWD 5-speed and 4 speed auto
Vehicles: Supra 2.5GT 91-93. UZ30 series Soarer


3SGTE
Power: 260ps@6500RPM
Torque: 310nm@4000RPM

As you can see, the specs are almost the same. Not much difference. The 3SGTE will or even be light to the 1JZ depend an a all aluminium engine.

Either way, the 3SGTE can get close to that figure with a little boost, proper tunning, exhaust, Ignition Controller and other little things, etc.

Nice isn't it?

If you want a show car, go for it. If you want an angel seeker, go with 3SGTE lightly or heavily modify.

Check out my profile for more details

[0Re0]

QUOTE (all4sho94st @ Jan 1 2003, 04:20 PM)

"with cash anything is possible"

werd!

[jayi12-15psi]

yo homes, you whack, swapping a 2jz would be cool but it would be a mad waste of money, even if it is great show engine- its borderline insanity.

[jayi12-15psi]

thats like me slamming 26" rims on my geo storm.

I'm just kidding- its nothing like that- if you've got the money that would be pretty nice.

[Guest_Matthew_*]

QUOTE (jayi12-15psi @ Jan 21 2003, 02:59 PM)

thats like me slamming 26" rims on my geo storm. I'm just kidding- its nothing like that- if you've got the money that would be pretty nice.

lol that'd be weird.

[jayi12-15psi]

just kidding, I would never drive a geo

[DemoX]

Hi

Is the 2JZ-GTE bigger (in size) than the 1JZ-GTE or is it about the same??

if you had the money and could do everything by you self (with help from friends at no additional cost)

would i be feasable?
and how reliable?

what would you guys say it should be?
2JZ-GTE og the 1JZ-GTE?

Cheers
BO

[shid]

Are you a mechanic? Do you have a shop that you have access to for weeks at a time? Are you or your friends a machinest?

If no, then forget it, they're equally rediculous.

[DemoX]

I am on in school to become a mechanic...
i am on my 2nd year out of 4 and my friend have a garage with lift, welder, torch, etc...

and my friend is a mechanic

so.....

[shid]

What about a machinest? (sp) you're going to have to custom fabricate so many parts its silly.

[DemoX]

yes i have another friend who has that profession'

he can make what i likes when ever he likes...
and i only have to pay for materials

[shid]

then by all means, try it; but make sure you have a daily driver for say, 6 months. If you have all that stuff, it doesn't matter which engine you pick really- you'll have to cut up the firewall, the sides of the car, etc etc either way

This post has been edited by shid: Jul 6, 2004 - 4:48 PM

[DemoX]

why the sides?

won't the 2JZ-GTE fit (with new motor mounts) i the Celica Engine Bay?

Cheers

[turboinduction]

wow was this brought back from the dead. And no the 2jz wont fit. If you have that much time and money - Go buy a n/a supra and convert.

[jgreening]

Try the thread below. Its a "sticky" at the top of this forum:

Why the Supra TT swap is not feasable.

[shid]

[DemoX]

Hi Again

how come then BMW can fit a really BIG Inline 6 Engine into the E46 M3 (E46 3 series Coupé)??

i mean, that engine bay is shorter the the Celica's, right?

Cheers

[turboinduction]

A 3 series is a big bay. Yes the hood size is about the same, but the M3 sits way back whereas the Celica is right there after the window. Again, read the "why a 2JZ is impossible" thread and know why no one out of 2700 members has ever tried this. This is a pointless topic.

[DemoX]

is it the same with the 1JZ-GTE?

[turboinduction]

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