8 cylinder swap Options

[recniabsal]

I want to throw an 8 cylinder into my celica this summer and supercharge it. Does anybody have any ideas on whats a good v8 engine to look for? And how much would be the average cost for the v8?

[95CelicaST]

you must be loaded... You want to share the wealth?

Go with a 1UZ-FE.

[devilsden97]

Please read the stickies b4 posting on these forums:

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1311

[recniabsal]

Do ya think it'll fit in my car bay? How much should it cost? I'm gonna buy it with a loan and its gonna be a project for me and my dad this summer. Lol.

[frosty]

Hey, if the chevy LS1 motor can fit in a miata, then why not!?

It is gonna cost you though (alot if someone else does it for you.)

If you have the tools and ability to do it yourself, then your major obstical will be sourcing some parts for good deals.

[recniabsal]

Yeah my dad built his jeep engine and he worked on his GTO when he was in high school so I'm pretty sure we'll be able to do it ourselves. He hella exaggerates **** though. He says its gonna be so tough getting it in and getting the car to run right. And tune it right.

[95CelicaST]

Well no kidding it's going to be hard to put in. You're suggesting throwing the equivalent of two of your current motors into your engine bay.

It would be a lot easier to do a V6 swap, as that has been done and is more documented.

PM a member on here.. Dr_Tweak. He can answer ALL of your V8 questions.

[frosty]

A v8/v6 swap, things will be tight and kinda iritating to work on, but I know I would love it!

The only motors I can think of right off that would be good is either a chevy 350 ( can get easily for around $200-$300, I know, I've looked!) a LS1 motor (cheapest if from a salvageyard, duh) or the nissan VQ35DE motor (I know, it's a v6 but also easy to find either a fwd or rwd format in a salvage yard, slightly smaller than a v8 so more room to spare, and comes with around 300 bhp with plenty of room to go up!)

Also the camry v6 as well...

Anyone of these would be sweet and since you said you want to supercharge it, then anyone of these are good canidates.

Good Luck and keep us posted! I love these type of things!

[94celigts]

VW VR6 or W8 if u want something smaller? lol would be hella difficult though

[recniabsal]

You know I actually like the v6 idea better. Cause it sounds easier and less money. Thanks for the help.

[frosty]

V8's are definitely nice, but to fit in our celics they would probably have to stay in "all-motor" form. V6's have room to boost!

[xs94st]

V8's are definitely nice, but to fit in our celics they would probably have to stay in "all-motor" form. V6's have room to boost!

thats exactly what i was thinking. v8+supercharger=pretty damn big. the v6 sounds like fun. shouldnt be too tough since $$$ is the greatest deciding factor for engine swaps (as well as the knowledge of doing it) so good luck man n keep us posted!

-x

[NapTown94]

So under the swaps category, it says non-feasible is the 2ZZ-GE?

I've seen it done, and running. I will have to look it up again, but I have seen it done. It fits.

And I've seen a 350 small block dropped in other imports, so It shouldn't be too difficult. Would just take some time and effort.

Personally if you want a V6 go buy a Solara.

If you want a V8 leave it in the muscle cars.

You bought a Celica and knew very well it came with a 4 cylinder.

Unless you have crazy time and money, don't worry about it. it won't be a project it will be a pain in the a**.

[jcbass7]

it won't be a project it will be a pain in the a**.

to each his own.. one mans pain in the A is another mans most enjoyable project

[frosty]

it won't be a project it will be a pain in the a**.

to each his own.. one mans pain in the A is another mans most enjoyable project

Yeah, you may love the power that comes from a motor but hate the car and vise-versa. It's just simply getting all the peices in a puzzle that you want.

I love the 2jz motor, and would love to have it in my celica, but I also love the look of the supra, so I would rather buy the supra instaed of messing with a swap. (I just like having alot of cars )

This post has been edited by frosty: Nov 8, 2007 - 10:38 AM

[devilsden97]

Do ya think it'll fit in my car bay? How much should it cost? I'm gonna buy it with a loan and its gonna be a project for me and my dad this summer. Lol.

no it wont fit, ull need substantial mods to the subframe, and the stearing rack.

Please dont take out a loan for this... ull seriously regret it.

plz bond with your father over a 3sgte or a 5sfte build. (<cheaper and lots of info on both)

[eggman40]

I wouldn't say that a v8 will not fit in the engine bay, this 5th gen managed to do so, engine bays are similar in size: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C0veAb-CiM but i will have to say that it wont be easy. Good luck to you if you decide to do so though.

Edit: and i just remembered at the recent chino hills meet there was a 1st gen with a tundra motor in it... engine bay may be a little bigger, but goes to show you anything is possible. ( and it was already rwd)

This post has been edited by eggman40: Nov 8, 2007 - 3:21 PM

[recniabsal]

One really important reason I wanna do this engine swap instead of buy a supra is because the car has sentimental value to me. No body is gonna expect a Celica to have a 6 cylinder with supercharge.

[GotToyota]

The only V8 I could possibly see fitting would be the SHO Taurus motor, don't know the code name of it though, but it's at least a transversely mounted motor, I would give that motor a shot.

-Matt

EDIT: Here's a Wikipedia link on the motor - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Yamaha_V8_engine#3.4

This post has been edited by GotToyota: Nov 9, 2007 - 6:50 PM

[Kwanza26]

If you ask me... it's a matter of practicality. If you have to ask a bunch of internet mechanics on a forum, then you're clearly not capable of doing such a swap. If you are capable... go look at the motor, look at the engine bay, break out a measuring tape, and decide for yourself.

[recniabsal]

I wouldn't say that a v8 will not fit in the engine bay, this 5th gen managed to do so, engine bays are similar in size: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C0veAb-CiM but i will have to say that it wont be easy. Good luck to you if you decide to do so though.

Edit: and i just remembered at the recent chino hills meet there was a 1st gen with a tundra motor in it... engine bay may be a little bigger, but goes to show you anything is possible. ( and it was already rwd)

Dude.... This is the video that gave me the idea. I got this video on my favs. Lol.

[Hanyo]

you have to remember a couple if important difference between that 5th gen and our celicas are the 5th gen is an all trac with all wheel drive.

Our celica's do not have awd drive train, therefore we can not easily put a V8 rwd in our celica.

[recniabsal]

you have to remember a couple if important difference between that 5th gen and our celicas are the 5th gen is an all trac with all wheel drive.

Our celica's do not have awd drive train, therefore we can not easily put a V8 rwd in our celica.

OH................ Thats some good info. Lol. Deaamn. I got some researchin to do. I guess its a 6 cylinder I'm going with. I know somebody said I'm not capable of doing this but my dad is gonna help me with it and I need to learn somehow. Thats another reason why I'm gonna do it.

[95celicastLSR]

lol.....you can do anything with a welder and chop saw....lol u have some major researching to do..like what about having all that weight in the front of our cars and upsetting the distrubution of weight all would go to the front and nothin in the back..= no traction lol ....ive thought about doing a v8 rwd conversion if i ever totall out my celica but i also have a step dad who know's how to custom fab pretty much anything...hehe ur pretty much lookin at taking the whole car apart and making a tube chassis drag car..

[K-ESD]

FYI a V6 is very feasible

that sticky is in serious need of an update

[ZNG500]

mmmmmm.....2grfse!!!

[njccmd2002]

if you stick in a 8 cylinder, lift the car, then you wont have clearance problems with trnsmission...

[raginazn]

hmm....
i have one!

[laff09]

hmm....
i have one!

brake fluid is low

[raginazn]

every fluid in the car keeps coming up low >.>
lol

[snapshotgt]

Seeing "lol" typed so many times tells me somethings wrong with this picture. I suggest you do more research.

[playr158]

Seeing "lol" typed so many times tells me somethings wrong with this picture. I suggest you do more research.

oh come on snap, you don't like the LOL...
or the useless irrelevant and/or completely wrong information in the thread?!

paper mech ftw!

oh here are some V8 celicas btw






This post has been edited by playr158: Dec 9, 2007 - 2:04 PM