So I drove down the street Options

[TheMadScientist]

and some guy stopped me and wanted to buy my car, so I sold it.

This post has been edited by TheMadScientist: Jun 24, 2009 - 11:02 PM

[celicaST]

awesome man. you got a couple months give or take to finish it up

[TheMadScientist]

awesome man. you got a couple months give or take to finish it up

I'll be driving my vert to the Co meet, hopfully I can get around to painting it before then

[SoDo]

Nice man. When I get a better job and more money im just gonna buy a front and rear clip off of ebay. Gt4 is soo sexy. Plus gotta give the wrx's some competition right? Hopefully I can find some time this weekend to install my speakers and amp. Also celicaST where did you get ur jdm tail lights and how much?

[trdproven]

JDM tails are easily bought off ebay. They are much cheaper than they used to be, some already in the 100's range. They used to be in the 200-300 range.

[SoDo]

Yeah i've already looked at ebay. Sellers on there want $160 + $75 for shipping. I'm just trying to find a better deal.

[lagos]

Cool project. Good luck.

[trdproven]

I saw a 139.99. Best keywords to use are st202 and st205 when searching.

[aqua1996]

Hey mate sexy colour if i do say so myself. not too many members on forums have the same colour as us.

good luck with the conversion. Im going down th 5sfte route. just getting the parts together now.

[celicaST]

Nice man. When I get a better job and more money im just gonna buy a front and rear clip off of ebay. Gt4 is soo sexy. Plus gotta give the wrx's some competition right? Hopefully I can find some time this weekend to install my speakers and amp. Also celicaST where did you get ur jdm tail lights and how much?

got them off ebay too. really only place to find them. spent 235 iirc

[xs94st]

u gonna use that strut brace?

[TheMadScientist]

Bump for new progress

[Valo666]

looks good..nice and clean so far. Did your clip come with motor too? or just frame parts??

EDIT: Are you doing the full Superstrut front end suspension swap too??

This post has been edited by Valo666: Mar 4, 2008 - 6:52 PM

[TheMadScientist]

looks good..nice and clean so far. Did your clip come with motor too? or just frame parts??

EDIT: Are you doing the full Superstrut front end suspension swap too??

Thank You, They don't call me a Mad Scientist for nothing. I wish it came with the engine, I have the Superstrut but its missing both knuckles and calipers.
So if I can get ahold of those parts yes I will do the Superstrut.
Next is painting the engine bay World Rally Blue Pearl with tons of clear

[95WRC]

if you havent already you need to swap over the top bumper mount from rad support of st205 .. it is raised

in the middle for 205 bumper and hood .. this might be dumb question but why didn't you just use st205

rad support ..?

i needed a rad support for my st205 and ended up finding a st205 empty clip and drove across country to

pick up just to have correct bumper mounting and i wanted orginal part to fix st205

[TheMadScientist]

if you havent already you need to swap over the top bumper mount from rad support of st205 .. it is raised

in the middle for 205 bumper and hood .. this might be dumb question but why didn't you just use st205

rad support ..?

i needed a rad support for my st205 and ended up finding a st205 empty clip and drove across country to

pick up just to have correct bumper mounting and i wanted orginal part to fix st205

Because I bought the st204 rad support and fixed the car before I ever thought of doing the st205 swap.
No big deal I can change just the top brace

[bccentaur3]

So you are actually doing the awd conversion too? Btw nice project going on. I'd love to do a right hand drive conversion. but it seems pricey.

[TheMadScientist]

So you are actually doing the awd conversion too? Btw nice project going on. I'd love to do a right hand drive conversion. but it seems pricey.

Yes It will be AWD RHD GTFour when I'm done. The RHD was only $300 +$400 to ship + $200 for misc.
missing parts from over seas

[joehernandez]

wow,, nice thing you are doing,,, im going to check it every often to se the progress,, in how much time do you think it will be ready?

[TheMadScientist]

wow,, nice thing you are doing,,, im going to check it every often to se the progress,, in how much time do you think it will be ready?

If i had $5,000 right now, It would be done in about 2 months . But since I just got laid off who knows when
It will be done. I have lots of time no money.

[joehernandez]

OK i see,,,
i wanted to do the same as you because someone was selling me a front clip,, but at the last minute i backed off, im not pretty good at doing all that by myself, and even with help! haha
but good luck!

[Insanity-74]

Why do you want it RHD???? wont it make it more difficult for every day driving????

[m0dd3d1]

Why do you want it RHD???? wont it make it more difficult for every day driving????

See Nial, you just don't understand! My LHD is fine over here, and it's the whole "exotic" aspect! Don't tell me with your GT-4 you wouldn't want to tear up the States!?

[TheMadScientist]

Why do you want it RHD???? wont it make it more difficult for every day driving????

This is NOT a daily driver This is strictly a project car/show car

[Insanity-74]

Why do you want it RHD???? wont it make it more difficult for every day driving????

See Nial, you just don't understand! My LHD is fine over here, and it's the whole "exotic" aspect! Don't tell me with your GT-4 you wouldn't want to tear up the States!?

Of course..I`d love to take my four around the states. I was just curious as to why somebody would want a RHD car in a country that uses LHD...It just seems to be making life hard for yourself for no apparent reason...but if its just to be different then fare enough....was just asking.

[TheMadScientist]

Bump for new Progress

[celicaGT96]

progress ehh? so whats new with this beast?

[TheMadScientist]

progress ehh? so whats new with this beast?

I just completed the RHD, pics are on the first page

[playr158]

great new pics, congrats!

glad to see #2 in the states of RHD conversions, I find it ironic that they are both on teal ST hatchbacks (or in my case what once was teal)

This post has been edited by playr158: Mar 25, 2008 - 8:09 PM

[celicaST]

awesome im going to have to see this

[CelicaZR]

Nice conversion
So glad mine is RHD as standard

[SoDo]

Looks nice. Keep up the good work. Would be cool if you could get it done by the time we have our meet in CO.

[TheMadScientist]

Looks nice. Keep up the good work. Would be cool if you could get it done by the time we have our meet in CO.

I don't think that is going too happen any time soon. I'll have too start playing the lottery too make that happen

[delusionz]

i dont understand where all these gt-four bumpers and hoods are coming from???? i cant find any at my local wrecking yards or on auction and my country actually has real gt-fours!!!

This post has been edited by delusionz: May 30, 2008 - 12:05 AM

[snapshotgt]

glad to see #2 in the states of RHD conversions...

Dan, i think he is over-taking you.

Btw TheMadScientist: make sure you bolt, clip and screw down all interior plastics like OEM - if you don't, things will be rattling once you get it on the road.

[TheMadScientist]

Bump for more parts ready for install! (Go to first page for pics)

[SoDo]

Nice. Looking good. Glad that the build is going well for you. Are we ever gonna have a CO meet?

[pipes]

God damn quicker than I thought man! Hope those parts work out for you.... if you need anything I got you covered...looking awsome....so when you gonna be rolling around? 2 weeks?

[Nial]

Now that is some dam fine home fabrication....very impressed...should turn out to be the top GT4 conversion by a long shot....looking forward to seeing it "on the road".

Even better than that....you have a black and decker toaster....Hmmmmm...top driving and top toast eating too......

This post has been edited by Nial: Dec 12, 2008 - 6:05 AM

[playr158]

I hope you made a template of those cross memebers.......I'd so buy a set off of you in a heart beat..

[bccentaur3]

^ I am soo with you. I would buy it too.

[presure2]

GREAT job on those crossmembers.
im with dan, did you make templates for those?

[Culpable04]

this is the most solid GT-4 conversion I've seen, the whole project looks clean and properly done.

so short cuts here, Mad props to you on a great project

[Projek_01]

crazy! i would love to have a car like yours! here in canada, people dont find RHD very attractive. i didnt know it would be different in USA. if you had a LHD GT-Four up here, everyone would love it! RHD supras, skylines get bashed all the time at car shows.

[TheMadScientist]

Yes I made templates and was thinking about making a couple of sets if anybody is interested. I've been doing custom automotive fabrication for over 10 years. As far as my toaster is doing great unlike the last one that caught on fire and burnt my hand so I threw it outside and smashed the crap out of it!

[presure2]

Yes I made templates and was thinking about making a couple of sets if anybody is interested. I've been doing custom automotive fabrication for over 10 years. As far as my toaster is doing great unlike the last one that caught on fire and burnt my hand so I threw it outside and smashed the crap out of it!

PM me about the crossmembers.
im TOTALLY down for a set.

i think its pretty fair to say the whole 6gc community has been waiting for someone like you to set up and do this.

this brings the "possibility" of gt-4 conversions into reality for ALOT of us who have been pondering on it, but not knowing the right way to go about it.

VERY well done, major props from me!

[bccentaur3]

so what are the prices for the templates?

[TheMadScientist]

so what are the prices for the templates?

I will build and sell the crossmembers for $500 a set. But as far as the templates go I can't release them.

[bccentaur3]

hmmmm 500 plus another 1000 for the rear end parts. Not bad I say.

[jmeyer]

What gauge steel is that? Did you use a mig or arc?

[lagos]

nice work on the crossmember !

[pipes]

Congrats man....looks good man can't wait to see it driving

[TheMadScientist]

What gauge steel is that? Did you use a mig or arc?

I used 11ga. steel and reinforced the bolt holes with 3" channel. I use a Lincoln mig welder

[bccentaur3]

So the crossmembers will have the channel and holes ready for the rear cradle to bolt onto?

What gas tank are you going to use?

[pipes]

So the crossmembers will have the channel and holes ready for the rear cradle to bolt onto?

What gas tank are you going to use?

From talking to him.... I told him a 185 or 165 tank will work because its the same as a 205

[TheMadScientist]

So the crossmembers will have the channel and holes ready for the rear cradle to bolt onto?

What gas tank are you going to use?

The crossmembers will be completed with threded holes. All you have to do is weld them in your car and bolt in the cradle.
I found a gas tank at a local junkyard out of a ST165 for $25

This post has been edited by TheMadScientist: Dec 15, 2008 - 11:14 PM

[bccentaur3]

NIIICE

I'm wondering if the camry all-trac rear cradle and diff will work. I am searching for a good deal on the rear end parts. I know its old, but awd is better than fwd.

[TheMadScientist]

I would like to thank everybody for the complements!!! Even though this is my first car project, I've been building 4X4 rock crawlers with custom suspensions for years.
So custom fabrication is no stranger to me and believe you me rock crawlers go through so extreme abuse

[bccentaur3]

well I would like to thank you for your contribution to give us gt-four lovers to turn a dream into reality.

How do you mount the gas tank with the rear floor pan missing. Is the tank aluminum? Are you going to use straps? Brackets to hold it up?

[playr158]

aftermarket fuel cell will solve all problems

[presure2]

aftermarket fuel cell will solve all problems

X2, a plastic cell is 133$ aluminum ~225$ (for a 15gal tank)

[99GT]

I like this thread.

Got 4k saved. Another 4K to go.

[pipes]

aftermarket fuel cell will solve all problems

If he's trying for that oe look then the tank is a must it fits perfect and he can still have a spare tire... he'll need to move to bolts for the straps to line up though noting big

[TheMadScientist]

Like I said on the last page, I allready have a gas tank I got from a ST165 for $25.
I'm getting rid of the spare tire well and closing it off with sheel metel.
I'm going to use the straps that came with the tank to hang it under the car.

[RickJamesBish]

Were there ever GT-4 verts made? If not, you'd most likely be the first to have one.

[Nial]

Were there ever GT-4 verts made? If not, you'd most likely be the first to have one.

The first ever GT4 was a convertible....a 165...but as far as I know only one was made to go around the car shows....after that they were all hatchbacks.

found a picture




This post has been edited by Nial: Dec 16, 2008 - 3:15 PM

[RickJamesBish]

The first ever GT4 was a convertible....a 165...but as far as I know only one was made to go around the car shows....after that they were all hatchbacks.

Well, I meant ST205's specifically.

[playr158]

no, although this project is on a hatchback....sooooo maybe you should get your eyes checked if the pictures are unclear

This post has been edited by playr158: Dec 16, 2008 - 3:17 PM

[Nial]

The first ever GT4 was a convertible....a 165...but as far as I know only one was made to go around the car shows....after that they were all hatchbacks.

Well, I meant ST205's specifically.

In that case "No."

[GMan]

X2, a plastic cell is 133$ aluminum ~225$ (for a 15gal tank)

If you are going Custom, there is some hacking involved.
Plastic wears out too. Gas is quite a solvent.
None of the swaps I have seen with a fuel cell look at all well done.

I would say a Real gas tank is the way to go.
Or spend the time and money to do a Custom AL and make it look decent.


Any other progress photos TheMadScientist ???

Regards;
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This post has been edited by GMan: Dec 16, 2008 - 4:28 PM

[GMan]

Were there ever GT-4 verts made? If not, you'd most likely be the first to have one.

Never form the factory, except maybe a concept or a show car ?

There have been some custom jobs. Such as a 5th gen
Rear sub frame..




From Switzerland or Austria ? It has been posted before...
https://wfs.bc.edu/melket/Public/Car_stuff/...verzeichnis.htm

Sorry to hijack with conv discussions.

Regards;

This post has been edited by GMan: Dec 16, 2008 - 4:29 PM

[RickJamesBish]

no, although this project is on a hatchback....sooooo maybe you should get your eyes checked if the pictures are unclear

That was going from his username, I didn't bother to look at the pictures too closely...stupid me.

In that case "No."

Alright, thanks.

[TheMadScientist]

What doesn't anybody read the posts on the thread before they start posting?

[Culpable04]

most people do, but apparently not everyone.

[RickJamesBish]

I did, I just forgot that you had the hatch since there's already a couple GT-4 conversion threads...and I automatically looked under your SN...not that big of a deal.

This post has been edited by RickJamesBish: Dec 16, 2008 - 10:01 PM

[TheMadScientist]

I did, I just forgot that you had the hatch since there's already a couple GT-4 conversion threads...and I automatically looked under your SN...not that big of a deal.

Not you particularly, everybody is going on about the gas tank when I said a page back about the gas tank I allready got

[SoDo]

Great job on the car so far. Cant wait to see it when its done.

[_Jim_]

VERY well done MadScientist, and like many people have said before, we have been waiting for this for a very long time. Well done.

[Theshanon]

my friend, your work is jaw dropping =D Goodluck and can't wait to see more on this project =)

[supershannon77]

let just inform you that you have been talked about a lot...people are impressed...
i have been getting ims from ppl telling me i should have shown them this thread lol...lots of props...word is getting around fast.

only one question....whats it like being famous?

[bccentaur3]

so did you get a chance to weld in the crossmembers yet?

[enderswift]

x2, set the rest of your life aside you now have an obligation to the 6gc community

[TheMadScientist]

let just inform you that you have been talked about a lot...people are impressed...
i have been getting ims from ppl telling me i should have shown them this thread lol...lots of props...word is getting around fast.

only one question....whats it like being famous?

LOL thats funny, I'm doing what I love to do, Custom Automotive Fabrication
Thank You all for your comments!

[TheMadScientist]

so did you get a chance to weld in the crossmembers yet?

It's welded just enough to keep from falling out.
I'm going to run it up to the alignment shop to make sure its nice and square before I make it permanet

[TheMadScientist]

x2, set the rest of your life aside you now have an obligation to the 6gc community

I would cause I have the time. But since I was laid off the week of thanksgiving I have no money
and besides its been like below zero the last couple days (cost too much too heat the shop)

This post has been edited by TheMadScientist: Dec 17, 2008 - 11:47 PM

[bccentaur3]

what size wire are you feeding for the weld?

[TheMadScientist]

what size wire are you feeding for the weld?

thirty five thousandths .035"

[bccentaur3]

Nice, thats what I use now in class.

Do you think Rav4 parts would work for an awd conversion?

[TheMadScientist]

Do you think Rav4 parts would work for an awd conversion?

Don't know haven't seen the suspension on one.
I bet its more trouble than it's worth.
I'm sure its has a completly different geometry

[bccentaur3]

I thought so, I guess I'll have to save up the grand for the 205 rear end parts.

[enderswift]

offtopic:

werent you trading for a subaru?

[TheMadScientist]

Just added 4 more pics , You asked for them

[bccentaur3]

thanks for the updated pics. That looks really good.

o btw enderswift, I'm keeping it and doing the awd conversion this summer, if I can collect the parts.

[enderswift]

on keepin it.

mad scientist, your a beast. cant wait to see how you set up the tank

[pipes]

Good job man... makes me wish I took more usefull pics...lol

[bccentaur3]

What did you use to cut the spare wheel well with? A plasma cutter?

What lines are you using to run the fuel? I would assume you would have to extend the lines correct?

Are the channels in your crossmember threaded for the bolts to hold the cradle on, or did you weld on a nut onto the channel?

[TheMadScientist]

What did you use to cut the spare wheel well with? A plasma cutter?

I used a cut off wheel on a grinder

What lines are you using to run the fuel? I would assume you would have to extend the lines correct?

I was just going to extend them

Are the channels in your crossmember threaded for the bolts to hold the cradle on, or did you weld on a nut onto the channel?

I welded a nut inside the channel

This post has been edited by TheMadScientist: Dec 18, 2008 - 4:12 PM

[denver_whiteST18...]

Nice project. where in colorado are you. i live in fort collins since i go to CSU, but im down in denver every weekend...

[Lil-Joe101]

So did u tac the crass member or did u spot weld in certen areas? how hard was it to make the template, and did the drrive shaft sit flush easily next to the exhaust?

[TheMadScientist]

So did u tac the crass member or did u spot weld in certen areas? how hard was it to make the template, and did the drrive shaft sit flush easily next to the exhaust?

The cross members will be fully welded to the frame rails. The back one was easy the front one was not. I don't know about the exhaust haven't installed it yet.